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李家同教授為我們上的兩堂課! (19603 views)
     

由於之前本部落格有一名網友為了我們最敬愛的李杯杯投書抱不平,描述他是多麼的浩氣長存憂國憂民!

Follow up:

http://blogs.myoops.org/lucifer.php/2007/05/24/strawberry

迴響來自: r [訪問者]
老實說 我不覺得 李家同說的有什麼不妥
每個世代有每個世代的階層
比爾蓋茲可能天天有一堆時間去看別人的 blog
可是比爾蓋茲手下 研發組的組長 研發組的成員
妳認為他們會有時間整天去看 blog ?
妳認為 Intel 的 engineer 會有多少人可以花時間去看 blog
又有多少 資深engineer (比較老的) 對 blog 的認知 可以達到 所謂新世代的標準?
說回來 那些 blogger 對engineer 們的世界 又懂多少? 又可以達到 科技新世代標準的多少?

專業隔一行 就差上多少

要知道 那些執行長的任務 工作在哪
執行長的 背景能力又在哪
嚴格說來個人認為 比爾蓋茲稱不上是 engineer
我對 Sun 不太熟悉
不過 老實講吧
大多數執行長 剛開頭可以說是 engineer
但是因為工作性質的改變 逐漸轉變為 不需要花費太多時間在 頂階科技的開發
進而轉向成為 風向探測球 既然要做風向探測球 又啟可不知 blog
但是管理階層的呢 高科技開發階層的呢? 又不是商品開發部 社會走向 根本就不是其應多花時間的地方
更何況是 不相干的領域? blog 可以說是遷扯上人文藝術 政治 電腦(computer science) 資工
可是又跟電機有多少關聯? (Electrical Engineer)

接下來 轉回來講 李家同校長
李校長 需要專注的是什麼
學生的素質 大學教育是否提供了 台灣學生 世界上相對的競爭力
在高科技領域 各個部門要採偏向哪個方面發展
其他大學 近期內有什麼新發展新發現
企業界有什麼突破
可以列的還更多
我要說的是 對 blog 不了解 有什麼直得可笑的?
她對blog 的分析也不是 所謂 很淺的分析
更何況是 別人要問她的意見

因此本人受到相當大的感動(另一個原因是昨天才知道有這篇留言....囧),因此特別呼應支持李家同校長而在阿宅愛情月寫了這篇文章!

http://www.csie.ncnu.edu.tw/~rctlee/article/970202.htm

在這篇於二月二號發表於聯合報的文章中,李家同教授諄諄教誨,舉出許多例子來要告訴我們國家發展方針和科技的發展方向

因此,在李教授如此英明的指導之下,身為一個電磁學三修的阿宅,我不禁想要搞清楚所謂的:「北歐的小國,一直是國人羨慕的對象。為什麼這些小國的經濟如此之好?以芬蘭為例,芬蘭是一個非常小的國家,人口只有幾百萬,更沒有什麼自然資源。但是芬蘭的Nokia公司已在近日內即將有自己的CDMA技術(一種通訊技術),充分表示它們的工業水準。」

雖然我的電磁學三修,但我看了最後那句話「自己的CDMA技術」也不禁要覺得怪怪的。

而CDMA全名為Code Division Multiple Access,這種技術(摘自維基百科):是一種多路複用的無線通訊技術。CDMA原本是軍方為了通訊而開發的,但時至今日,已廣泛應用到全球不同的民用通訊中。CDMA能將話音訊號轉換為數位訊號,給每組數據話音封包增加一個地址,進行擾碼處理,並且將它發射到空中。CDMA最大的優點就是相同的頻寬下可以容納更多的呼叫,而且它還可以隨話音傳送數據信息。(另外,維基百科裡面也提到,經常有人會將CDMA技術和CDMA規格、網路混淆)


(這好像是手機王的圖片)

換句話說,說一個國家的某個公司擁有「自己的」無線通訊技術是一件讓人不太能夠理解的事情。這就跟說台灣有自己的WWW、IP、FM、AM一樣的奇怪....orz...

就算講的是芬蘭對於3G的WCDMA技術的支援,那也是2006年就開始的工作了,這還是跟李教授神秘兮兮講的「即將擁有」沒啥關係呀?

但如果浩氣長存的李教授說的是手機的規格呢?首先,芬蘭的電信產業是最早使用GSM規格的,Oy Radiolinja Ab是全世界第一個GSM營運商。也因此Nokia早年大多數的手機都是GSM的。而且Nokia相當少生產CDMA的手機,因為CDMA的「規格」牽扯到美國Qualcomm公司的許多專利,而兩家廠商之間的關係一直不好,所以在2006年間,甚至業界曾經說Nokia將再也不會生產CDMA的手機......

總之,不管怎麼樣,李教授講的這件足以證明芬蘭工業能力的關鍵證據:Nokia即將擁有自己的CDMA技術!這件事情除了讓我傷透腦筋之外,更是讓我在國際媒體上找的焦頭爛額,我找呀找的,絲毫沒有提及Nokia和芬蘭的這項絕讚進步事件呀!

可是,我們英明神武,經常給予國內局勢針貶和關懷大學生的李家同教授怎麼可能出錯呢?

難道他竟然跟我們這些凡夫俗子,沒有競爭力的大學生和無知官員學者一樣,竟然犯了一個誤解CDMA網路規格為CDMA技術,並且寫了一篇落落長的文章嗎?

這怎麼可能!

但基於一個阿宅的科學實驗精神,我們還是很努力的設法找出2008年唯一和Nokia以及CDMA相關的新聞,那就是在2008年1月10號的阿宅最愛engadget上.....

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/10/cdma-nokia-with-ev-do-passes-the-fcc/

喔.....原來是Nokia又要開始作CDMA手機呀?......

http://www.phonenews.com/ctia-nokia-cdma-wimax-photos-details-3077/

PHONENEWS在2008年4月3號的CTIA電信展中也拍到了,確實,Nokia已經推出了1606、3606的CDMA手機,但依舊拒絕對6205和7205作出評論。

喔,原來這就是所謂的「但是芬蘭的Nokia公司已在近日內即將有自己的CDMA技術(一種通訊技術),充分表示它們的工業水準。」(嗯嗯,筆記...

另外,這篇文章我又繼續看了下去,又看到了一段話:

我們不妨看看所有工業技術高的國家,他們也許有經濟不景氣的時代,但是不會因為經濟不景氣而發生民不聊生現象;日本有過經濟蕭條,既使在這些日子裡,你去日本也不會感覺到這種經濟蕭條影響了人民的生活。」

身為一個經常看日本漫畫和日劇的阿宅,我從漫畫中得到的資訊怎麼跟李家同教授完全的那個給他不一樣呢?我知道日本的泡沫經濟那個時候全日本陷入一片愁雲慘霧,中小企業倒閉、企業主、上班族自殺、夜逃的一大堆,連中央線都經常因為一堆人跳軌自殺被撞爛而停駛,怎麼會沒有影響到人民生活呢?

就連看那個《真相之眼》漫畫裡面就知道很多泡沫經濟買來的藝術品最後只好賤價拍賣呀!然後《改革之獸》裡面也提到很多中小企業因為銀行收緊銀根而家破人亡呀!

於是我就又好心的幫李家同杯杯查了一下網路上的消息.....

http://nea.big5.northeast.cn/system/2007/11/10/051045077.shtml

2007年11月9日日本政府首度公佈的自殺白皮書裡面提到了,「日本戰後共出現三次自殺高潮,分別為1955年、1985年以及1998年。由於經濟下滑導致許多人失業、破產或絕望,1998年日本自殺人數首次突破3萬。然而,令日本當局深感問題嚴重的是,盡管日本2006年的經濟比1998年有了大幅改善,然而全國自殺總人數卻依舊居高不下。」

http://www.japanresearch.org.tw/yoko-152.asp

台灣日本綜合研究所裡面的報導也提到,2006年日本自殺者的原因裡面經濟生活問題佔24%......

「以人口10萬人來表示的「自殺率」來看,日本是驚人的25.5,這個數字是美國的2倍以上。而根據日本警察廳的整理,去年的自殺者的動機,健康問題佔46%、經濟生活問題佔24%、家庭問題佔9%、工作過勞問題佔6%、男女問題則佔2%。會造成高自殺率,推測是由於泡沫經濟崩解後帶給日本社會急速的改變,再加上日本原本年功序列的終生雇用制轉變為成果至上的成果主義,因而產生很多所謂的「勝組」跟「敗組」等用語,這也顯示了社會變化帶給人民極大的壓力。」

但這則新聞旁邊有個更嚴重的事情!(驚!)

http://www.japanresearch.org.tw/yoko-202.asp

這種國際新聞才真正讓阿宅感到一種唇亡齒寒的感覺!

咳咳,轉回正題。所以,請各位以後不要再犯李杯杯犯的錯,到了一個國家去旅遊,不能因為你自己沒有感覺到受到影響,還有沒有注意當地的新聞,就覺得經濟蕭條沒有影響到人民的生活。

就算你這麼覺得,跟自己的學生說說也就算了,反正誤人子弟也不只你一個。但投稿到報上,把一個自殺率是八大工業國次高的國家說成經濟蕭條時也歌舞昇平,這樣就不對了呀!

所以,李教授用自己親身的範例,教導我們兩件事情:

第一:對於一個科技發展要深入瞭解,不可見到黑影就開槍,把人家要生產CDMA手機搞成什麼新的CDMA技術之類,即使是一個大學教授、前大學校長、富有人文科技關懷的權威,這樣做也會讓阿宅科科笑呀!

第二:對於國際間的局勢要深入瞭解,必要時更應該看看所謂的娛樂漫畫,不可自己從媒體上粗淺瞭解,隨便看看就發表「自以為」日本人民生活不受經濟蕭條影響的論調,這樣也會讓阿宅從漫畫租書店裡面抬起頭來科科笑呀!

完畢!謝謝人文關懷權威李家同教授今天為我們上的兩堂課!

Lucifer

另外,有關上次讓李家同教授震怒不已的印度窮人在廟裡面搶猴子食物吃的故事......

http://www.chinanews.com.cn/tw/jjwh/news/2008/01-29/1149498.shtml

如果李家同教授和他的學生有在網路上再調查過就知道,這是一件跟宗教有關的事件。

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/world/asia/14delhi.html

部分的Hindu教徒是崇拜猴神哈奴曼(Hanuman)的,因此德里一帶的猴患才會這麼嚴重,根據紐約時報2007年11月14日的報導,Hindu教的信徒每週二和週六都會冒著被罰款的風險來餵食這些野猴子。而在哈奴曼的神廟中,當然更多的貢品是直接獻給這些靈長類的。

http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/12look.htm

上面這則新聞還有Tripura邦的一名婦人用母奶餵養猴子的照片哩。

不要說是窮人可能得向猴子拿獻祭的食物吃了,就在紐約時報的那一篇報導中你還可以看到新德里的副市長因為趕猴子而從自家陽台上摔死的新聞,印度人對待野生動物的寬容程度,也已經讓新德里成為世界上野生動物為患最嚴重的區域之一了。

不過,如果用人跟猴子搶東西吃來舉例說明貧窮,而不瞭解背後的宗教因素,這就像是說台灣有很多窮人沒飯吃,媽祖供桌上還很多貢品,天主教週日大家還領聖餐→因此貧富差距很大,是一樣的奇妙吧,像我這種幽默感有問題的阿宅,也會因為這種例子引喻失當而科科笑呀!

「我不是小丑,不是来愉悦大家,总要有人告诉年轻人严肃的事,看见世界真相,不是只在台上唱歌跳舞。”现场一度欲中断演说。 」

老李很生氣的這麼說,但是老李呀,你真的確定自己說的是真相嗎? 科科科.....

這個最後感謝摩卡兄提供正妹照片!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jerryhsu/

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迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
頭香?!
2008-04-08 @ 10:18
迴響 from: 頭香是王道 [訪問者]

幹!輸了!

2008-04-08 @ 10:20
迴響 from: 頭香是王道 [訪問者]

人蔘真無奈

2008-04-08 @ 10:22
迴響 from: 頭香是王道 [訪問者]

居然搶不到頭香!

2008-04-08 @ 10:22
迴響 from: 游準 [訪問者]
看完文~才回
離頭香還真遠
2008-04-08 @ 10:22
迴響 from: 張小玉 [訪問者]

哈哈!

目前為止最好的記錄,

四香...
2008-04-08 @ 10:24
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
是七仔....
2008-04-08 @ 10:29
迴響 from: 正咩 [訪問者]
慣例,幫姐妹們搶沙發...
2008-04-08 @ 10:30
迴響 from: keroro mk2 [訪問者]
劉真談異地戀 100年有結婚運
更新日期:2008/04/06 04:09
詹惟中老師從面相來看,認為劉真目大、鼻樑高直屬自主性高,不甘於家居生活,若有嫁入豪門機會,將會因取捨掙扎而錯失良機。至於未來感情,容易有異地桃花,也可以藉由周遭的朋友或長輩介紹,但會因工作過於勞累,而無法在愛情方面完全融入,導致有開花機會但難結果。


黃逢逸老師以姓名學八字分析,劉真因為帶偏官、正官,因此她嫁入豪門的機會最大,由於這2年走好運,因此若要結婚有可能落在民國100年。而劉真在3人中情路最順,因為命帶桃花卻無紅豔,人氣旺卻不易遇爛桃花,但由於在感情上對自己沒有自信,容易焦慮不安,外表雖是女強人,內心卻是小女人,會害怕人追求導致戀情流失。


星座專家趙心如表示,劉真金星在獅子座,火星在牡羊座,給人一般的印象很好相處,但在面對情人時卻會展現自己真正的脾氣,因為太陽、月亮、水星都在雙子座,是個不喜歡約束、變化又很快的人,因此不會特別想要嫁入豪門,也會擔心談一段很長的戀愛,較適合與年長的人交往。





朱大是你嗎! ke ro .... ke ro ... ke ro

2008-04-08 @ 10:30
迴響 from: 不是猴子也要吃香蕉 [訪問者]
每次看你幹譙李背背都覺得很爽
可是一想到媒體說他有可能成為教育部長人選
就又感覺到一片昏暗...
2008-04-08 @ 10:43
迴響 from: Luke [訪問者]
東北亞推薦女郎好小張哦!!
2008-04-08 @ 10:45
迴響 from: 小男孩 [訪問者]
李家同給我的感覺就是很自以為是
認為「我」說得就是真理
不認同「我」的就是有問題
偏偏一堆人就是相信他說的「真理」...
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人跟猴子搶東西吃,高中生聽後哈哈笑那件事
老實說我覺得沒什麼
因為我第一個反應也是想笑
第二個反應就是「你是虎爛的吧...」
因為我知道猴子在印度是神聖的
那種民風保守的地方有人敢跟神獸搶東西吃?
那種地方的人過的再苦都不可能對神不敬
(以人獻祭祈求下雨這種蠢事我都覺得還比較有可能)
不過媒體報導的好像那些一流高中的學生都是很沒同情心一樣...
╮(′~‵〞)╭
2008-04-08 @ 11:27
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
除了無奈,說不上什麼。

名人,教授,校長,講的話就一定是對的?

吾日三省吾身 - 李校長大概省了半天,省不出東西的原因在於”發音發錯了”。
2008-04-08 @ 11:33
迴響 from: 小男孩 [訪問者]
照他的說法
美國經濟大蕭條的時候人民應該還是過著安居樂業的生活
一點都感覺不到經濟不景氣呢
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如果可以跟李家同說話
我想對他說:
「(拍拍)李先生阿,自己不懂的東西就不要亂批評,免得讓懂得人看笑話」
2008-04-08 @ 11:33
迴響 from: 盧卡斯 [訪問者]
一早就有新文章 真好~~~

話說人越老其實越固執,越難被別人改變,如果自己又不常去開拓自己的眼界,結果可想而知

所以要保持年輕,就是要不停的吸收 不停的調整自己啊~~~

2008-04-08 @ 11:35
迴響 from: 豬豬人 [訪問者]
真怕他當教育部長,以後在立法院就會看到他....

五十年前,他也許是不錯的教育部長。
但是我們現在是民國97年了阿~

『老大,回家報孫子吧~』

PS.下面選項的 '取消打勾確定是真人留言'不能用FireFox看~
只能用IE Tab好爛喔~
2008-04-08 @ 11:51
迴響 from: J [訪問者]
講到哈努曼,就一定要看看宇宙囧片王的神猴 哈努曼介紹
http://pulolesu.game-server.cc/dream/kuso/tokusatsu1.html
2008-04-08 @ 11:51
迴響 from: 歐巴馬的牧師 [訪問者]
老實說,大多時候,我滿喜歡這位李杯杯的。如果從要追究真相的態度,或許檯面上人物曾經出口過的謬誤,多的可以出一系列百科全書...(疑?百 科科 全書...我在想甚麼...XD)
知識可以創造、可以修改、可以勘誤、可以道歉重來說過,可以改頭換面重新詮釋,漸漸逼近真實。

但李杯杯的初發心,我是肯定的。
自從網路興起後,可以說沒有東西是不能檢證的。但也可以反過來說自從網路出現之後,人們漸漸失去了檢證的能力。

看完這篇文章,我的想法只有簡單一句話...
不以人廢言,不以言廢人呀!
2008-04-08 @ 12:07
迴響 from: Kent [訪問者]
我的偶像,除了朱大,又多了一位「摩卡」
2008-04-08 @ 12:08
迴響 from: jason k. [訪問者]
樓上是說...倚老賣老嘛? 哈

以這個角度看, 我覺得這篇文章的主角, 跟朱大曾經寫過的某篇文章的主角(林教授)讓人感覺超像的...
2008-04-08 @ 12:11
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
所以老李舉了一些錯誤的例子,要說明的重點到底是什麼?
為什麼只關心印度的猴子,難道台灣彌猴不值得關心嗎?
2008-04-08 @ 12:21
迴響 from: visiteur [訪問者]
結果還是在X李教授 XD
對了,有聽說孫悟空是以Hanuman為雛型創作出來的,有人有這方面的資料嗎?
2008-04-08 @ 12:25
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
找到了一篇台灣彌猴的介紹
http://www.lca.org.tw/tws/avot/02/37.htm

  理毛:台灣獼猴有時會自己理毛,有時幫別的個體理毛,這是牠們社交活動的重頭戲。通常猴王不大為其他猴理毛,但牠會假裝要幫愛妻寵妾理毛,實際是要她們為牠理毛。地位低的猴接受理毛的機會很小,除了母子關係外幾乎不可能發生,相反地,地位低的猴常為位高者理毛。另外,不同族群的獼猴可能發生交配行為,卻不曾發生理毛行為,可見,理毛行為對獼猴可是意義深重呢!

以上無任何暗示意味
2008-04-08 @ 12:35
迴響 from: priest66 [訪問者]
日記:
今天上李教授的課獲益良多..
2008-04-08 @ 13:01
迴響 from: cchien [訪問者] · http://blog.pixnet.net/cchien
想當年我還在清大當宅宅時
本來在暨南大學當校長的李杯杯
因為921大地震的緣故
很落魄的回到清大教書
我就經常在清大校園裡面看到他
小小個兒很不起眼
有時候跑去風雲樓吃飯
他和一些老師(甚至是當年的校長劉炯朗)也坐在我們隔壁桌吃飯
每次我都會故意去瞄一下他們的菜色
看看伙房有沒有給學生差別待遇.... (="=)

他對教育的確抱著一些理念和理想
不過畢竟不是學教育出身
實在很怕他會走上中研院另一個李杯杯的後塵啊
唯一慶幸的是
他不像中研院李杯杯一樣
跟政治沾染上邊
所以縱使偶爾被批
還沒有像中研院的那個李杯杯一樣整個黑掉啊
科科~

2008-04-08 @ 13:05
迴響 from: simon [訪問者]
這就是所謂的知識份子的傲慢嗎?
土刀~

看來八年前有一個李遠哲之後,
現在又有一個李家同了…
喵的嘞,
這些台灣囝仔真衰小…
2008-04-08 @ 13:14
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

帳面學術專業跟整體教育政策施行效果一向沒多少連帶性。當年的曾智朗可是國際認知心理與教育心理權威,但是一樣埋著頭搞那隨便抓個學生都能告訴你沒屁用的教改。已經跟現實脫節多年的老李我看更別提了……

說到WIKI,最近問題越來越大,又發生匿名來歷不明老鳥跟新手國際權威在條目內容上對幹的鳥事:
「維基百科 2+2會等於5」
http://mag.udn.com/mag/digital/storypage.jsp?f_MAIN_ID=314&f_SUB_ID=2924&f_ART_ID=119328

吉米‧威爾士和拉里‧桑格,在二○○一年一月正式成立維基百科。……但在這個業餘者教派中,所知最多的人有可能會遭到所知最少的人迫害。

威廉‧康諾利博士(Dr. William Connolley)是位於劍橋的英國南極勘測會(British Antarcitic Survey)的氣候模式研究人員,也是全球暖化的專家,曾出版過許多專業著作。他最近因為維基百科上的全球暖化條目,跟某位積極的編寫者正面槓上了,因為他發現,該條目有不正確之處,想進行修改,之後卻被指控為「為了強力推銷他的觀點,便有計畫地除去其他不符合他觀點的內容。」

康諾利唯一推銷的,只有符合事實的個人觀點,但結果他在維基百科的編寫權卻被列入「觀察期」,限制他一天只能修改一則條目。當他質疑這個決定時,維基百科仲裁委員會完全不把他的專家身分當回事,他們對待康諾利這個具有國際聲譽的全球暖化專家的敬意和信任程度,就跟對待他的匿名對手沒有兩樣 ──而這個對手,我們只知道他有可能是埃克森美孚石油公司花錢雇的企鵝。


身為陰謀論者跟偏執狂,個人一向相信愚蠢能累積,智慧不會……
2008-04-08 @ 13:15
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

嗯,這本《你在看誰的部落格?》看起來不錯,老李應該買來當聖經供著,朝夕誦讀,才不會再在那邊對著陰影猛開槍。

「你能相信嗎?YouTube的事實與謊言」
http://mag.udn.com/mag/digital/storypage.jsp?f_ART_ID=119329

美國版的YouTube也好不到哪裡去。二○○六年十一月的眾議員選舉中,YouTube觀看率最高的影片之一,就是一則替北卡羅萊納州第十三眾議員選區共和黨候選人維能‧羅賓遜(Vernon Robinson)宣傳的廣告。

這則影片是對羅賓遜的民主黨對手布瑞德‧米勒(Brad Miller)進行惡意攻擊。「布瑞德‧米勒沒把你們的錢用在癌症研究上,而是拿去研究老年男子的自慰習慣,」那則廣告片宣稱。「布瑞德‧米勒甚至把納稅人的血汗錢,拿來付給青少女,讓她們透過連接到自己生殖器的針孔攝影機,觀看春宮片!」

當這個抹黑手段遭到批評時,維能‧羅賓遜便宣稱這支影片的播放從來沒有經過他允許。「我們從來沒把這段影片當成廣告播出,」他告訴福斯有線電視台的政論名嘴主持人尚恩‧漢納提(Sean Hannity)。「是有人放到YouTube上的。」

這可以拿來當成正當藉口,在選戰中採取誹謗手段,明顯扭曲事實嗎?在Web 2.0時代,「有人放到YouTube上」的藉口,等於是學童沒寫回家功課,就跟老師說:「狗吃掉了我的作業。」

…………

這是Web 2.0世界中的未來政治。原本應該是立意良善的民主化媒介,結果卻創造出一種小報風格的踢爆文化,一句輕率的失言,就能搶走整個舞台的鋒頭;一輩子的政治生涯,就毀在一個漫長競選日末尾一句脫口而出的玩笑。

當有關政治與政策的資訊這麼容易被歪曲或曲解,輸的,是我們全體選民。當我們公民不曉得該相信誰、信靠誰,那麼我們最終可能就會做出錯誤的決定,或更糟的,就是失去興趣──對候選人、對政治,還有對投票。

政治受到YouTube嚴重影響,也威脅到我們的公民文化。這種影響讓政治運作幼稚化,公開論述噤聲,而且導致政府的未來,只能靠手持迷你攝影機、懷有政治目的業餘者所拍攝的三十秒影片決定。


所以我一直覺得之前選立委時,那些小黨的文宣人員應該去切LP謝罪。這麼簡單有效沒成本的手段都不會,笨成這樣活該一席都選不上……
2008-04-08 @ 13:32
迴響 from: 頭香路人 [訪問者]
郢書燕說未必不是好事,起碼李伯是很認真地在做他認為對的事
而且這些事對他自己並沒什麼好處,例如他創立的慈愛基金會,
專門輔導南投地區經濟弱勢或學習成就低落的國中小學學童,對
一個明年就要70歲的老人家來說,很值得敬佩。
一個退休的IEEE傢伙要穩穩地當個校長或去科技公司當個神主牌
不是件難事,不過他選擇攬了這麼多事在身上,還出一些敎小朋
友學英文的書,倒讓我想起當年的溫世仁。
或許他不了解部落格之於網路的重要性,或是CDMA與NOKIA關係,
但是我覺得如果他願意當教育部長,起碼我想不到誰比他有資格,
或是誰會比他更關心下一代的教育。
2008-04-08 @ 13:32
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
我要說什麼@@?
喔~對了對了~想起來了
我想表達的是....朱大的正妹圖少好多啊~~~~~~
俺要看正妹~
2008-04-08 @ 13:37
迴響 from: cyber runner [訪問者] · http://orz18.blogspot.com
正妹圖變少囉 +1

對了
日本人也有用乳餵豬的
那影片不知道在那呢
科科
2008-04-08 @ 13:47
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
希特勒當年也是為了亞立安人的純粹在奔走呀!

只是中間不小心殺了一些下等民族而已,他作他認為對的事情,一點也沒錯呀!

至於這種事情對李杯杯有什麼好處,你小看了沽名釣譽這件事情呀!科科。

至於我很尊敬的溫世仁先生,人家可是日夜操勞,竟以身殉,李家同要跟他比,恐怕得要站到街角去呀!

Lucifer

台灣如果只剩下一個出一張嘴的李家同有資格當教育部長(更別提他說一堆自以為的錯誤知識),那天亡台灣矣~~~
2008-04-08 @ 14:49
迴響 from: 盧卡斯 [訪問者]
哈~~ 其實我對老李的印像不算差~ 除了他舉例常不求甚解不算以外

他還算是個憂國憂民願意付出的人就是了~~ 亂講話的名人,在現在還少了嗎?

在上位者睜眼說瞎話早就不是新聞了吧~~

但是~ 社會再怎麼動亂~ 上面的人再怎麼嘴炮~ 正妹圖怎麼可以少呢? \_/

2008-04-08 @ 14:52
嗯,這個肚臍真棒...
不,我是說,這個CDMA手機真棒

btw,
1.「知之為知之,不知為不知,是知也。」奉請李杯杯參考...
2.最可怕的是,以一知半解為真理,還強迫別人一定要接受哩。
3....我支持李家同教授出任教育部長!本來還在擔心教育部再也找不到比現任部長更有個人色彩的部長人選了呢!現在再也不用擔心了!請繼續挑戰教育部更具突破性的演出!李家同教授凍蒜!!
2008-04-08 @ 15:03
迴響 from: 垂哥 [訪問者]
OBAMA GIRL! OBAMA GIRL!! OBAMA GIRL!!!

宅者,人之本。人因宅而立,宅因人得存,人宅相扶,感通天地。http://memoriesoff.jp/psp/
2008-04-08 @ 15:11
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
朱大出手果然不凡,不過李杯杯的評論...orz
2008-04-08 @ 15:19
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
說到溫世仁...
光是遺產稅就要40億啊...

囧rz

真的是...
命好,好不過台銘。
頭尖,尖不過迪西。

↑擷取〝埃西歐的塗鴉能量--Painting Power 〞
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/iceohw&article_id=12030527
2008-04-08 @ 15:25
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
可愛的火星...
如果有一天...
你是第一個發現朱大PO新文的人...

你會把頭香讓給我們嗎?
XDDDDDDD

↓Like this...

迴響來自: 正咩 [訪問者]
慣例,幫姐妹們搶沙發...

2008-04-08 @ 10:30
2008-04-08 @ 15:30
迴響 from: Billy [訪問者]
當年阿扁在台北禁電玩的時候,也有很多人認為他是在做對的事....

結果如何我想大家都很清楚了.
2008-04-08 @ 15:37
迴響 from: 丫亮仔 [訪問者]
迴響來自: visiteur [訪問者]
結果還是在X李教授 XD
對了,有聽說孫悟空是以Hanuman為雛型創作出來的,有人有這方面的資料嗎?
全文連結 2008-04-08 @ 12:25
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好奇查了一下資料,其實這個說法,一直有爭議。魯迅的小說史、劉大杰的文學史都沒採用此說(可能真的與民族主義思維有關:p):

○這個主張是民初胡適提出的:(相關材料有鄭振鐸、陳寅恪亦執此說,但我沒找到:p)
http://www.fengshui-chinese.com/discuz/redirect.php?tid=65665&goto=lastpost
《西遊記》所塑造的四個主要人物,最重要的是孫悟空。據胡適考證,孫悟空的原型,是取材自印度史詩《羅摩衍那》(Ramayana)的神猴哈奴曼(Hanuman),具有騰雲駕霧、變幻形象的法力。隨著佛教東傳中國,《羅摩衍那》記傳的「楞伽城大戰」(Battle of Lanka)中大鬧無憂園的情節,改編成孫悟空七十二變的故事。

○這篇的註釋有列出魯迅、胡適主張的原始資料。並用以神話學、心理學角度探討「孫悟空」的原型:
http://163.20.40.7/CJNET/Read/%E5%9C%8B%E6%96%87%E7%A7%91/9512%E8%A8%B1%E5%A5%8E%E6%96%87.htm

○這篇有相關神話說明,與網友與學者的相關討論:
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/yangginlamu-2008/article?mid=688&prev=1625&l=f&fid=18

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然後,其實我一直覺得,如果沒有足夠柔軟包容的心胸,執持著特定立場而為的正義,都是危險的……

2008-04-08 @ 15:54
迴響 from: QQ [訪問者]
啊...正妹的腋下到腰那邊怎麼濕濕的呀XD
天氣太熱了啊?怎模溼答答低~夏天快來到了啊...O_o
2008-04-08 @ 16:26
迴響 from: 毛絨絨 [訪問者]
朱大一直強調
私下和李教授談過你就知道這個人的真相了

我只想聽看看朱大和李教授談話內容的「黑盒子」
因為那決定了你如此厭惡這個人而寫文批判他的動機

如果可以,你可以挖出你腦袋中的黑盒子來播放
滿足一下我的好奇心嗎?
2008-04-08 @ 16:41
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
TO 正咩...??

其實,
我都沒在改"名稱"的,所以哪天真的搶到頭香~
那就要看,那時候,我的"名稱"上寫的是啥...
我現在是自己搶到沙發後,再回頭幫妳們佔位子!
我[儘可能}記得...搶到頭香時換一下暱稱啦!
怕只怕...那時就沒有位子坐啦!

都說我不可愛了!
2008-04-08 @ 16:46
迴響 from: 毛絨絨 [訪問者]
附註:
我不喜歡用人乳餵養猴子那張照片~
那隻猴子看來已經不是寶寶了
太猥褻了… ><
2008-04-08 @ 17:00
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
要想知道李教授本人如何,請跟他自己多相處,我可不想要拿我個人的經驗來挑戰人人眼中的大善人呀!

你想想看,如果令狐沖一進華山就說岳不群心機重,誰願意相信他哩,科科~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 17:00
迴響 from: 任盈盈 [訪問者]
沖哥~
爲了正義,你一定要站出來揭發呀~



(我越來越白目了…)
2008-04-08 @ 17:04
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
平之躲到角落去脫褲子了,你趕快去阻止他呀~~~

Lucifer

註:然後我就可以跟藍鳳凰約會了~~~(這什麼爛港片改編嘛!)
2008-04-08 @ 17:06
迴響 from: 很閒 [訪問者]
嘿!嘿!嘿!
還是這種火力全開的文章看起來比較爽阿
來吧!讓砲火更猛烈點吧
2008-04-08 @ 17:11
迴響 from: 岳靈珊 [訪問者]
正好,讓我檢查一下他是不是真的練了辟邪劍法…

2008-04-08 @ 17:12
迴響 from: 外包的雜魚 [訪問者]
~"~不知是不是我的錯覺 我總覺得拿著N牌滑蓋機的MODEL 她的神韻 有點像性感女神穗花耶...... 喔對了 我工作用的信箱有時會收到轉寄來的李老先生的文章耶 不知某公家單位的長者們 是要藉此文章教育我等 還是只是想轉寄信件呢 科科科科
2008-04-08 @ 17:14
迴響 from: 任盈盈 [訪問者]
打錯字了啦
麻煩幫我把「沖」改成「冲」
orz
2008-04-08 @ 17:20
迴響 from: zepee0919 [訪問者]
喔喔喔喔!!!!!
大圖!!!!
2008-04-08 @ 17:26
迴響 from: hoja [訪問者]
看完整篇,其實我比較想看"東北亞推薦"的大圖....
2008-04-08 @ 17:40
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
可是UMA其實是2006年的測試了,我這兩年當真沒有聽過Nokia提過太多突破性的新通信技術。

所以其實我真的很好奇到底是哪個東西,除非把他推出WIMAX手機也算在內啦~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 17:41
迴響 from: r [訪問者]

S. Peter 先生所寫 我不太確定在論什麼
是在說 wiki 不可信?
我現在有點想睡覺, 不知道有沒有人告訴我一下大意

有出處有來源的東西 都有一定的可信度吧 (0.1分到99.9分)
2008-04-08 @ 17:43
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
我真的覺得是 UMA
因為UMA 剛好在 finland 有進行測試
到底實用化沒 還是測試中 我就不知道了
you know .... 大學教授 有時候非自己領域
最新資訊多少會慢個一些

囧, 李教授 針對妳熟悉的發言就好了
不然要幫妳說話會很難 XD
2008-04-08 @ 17:46
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
那篇重點是維基百科的群眾智慧產生了一個先來的業餘者和後來的專家打成平手的詭異現象。

因為後來的專家在國際間卓有聲譽,但在維基百科上卻是個菜鳥,所以老鳥欺負菜鳥,就這麼簡單~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 17:46
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
WCDMA還更有可能哪!那也是在2006年芬蘭就已經和電信業者全面合作的系統了哩~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 17:47
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
朱老寫文真他媽的快...
昨天才看到留言...立刻就能寫一篇...

查資料+消化+寫長文+校正...

這樣怎麼有時間打電動看漫畫!

PS.

無雙OROCHI pc版不知何時偷偷的出了...
遠呂志那是什麼招阿!B咧!
(使用張角奮戰中)
2008-04-08 @ 17:48
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
WCDMA 就真的太老了=.=
anyway ... off to bed @@
2008-04-08 @ 17:57
姑且不論李杯杯對於事件背後的意義未深究的問題
我覺得因為學生ㄎㄎ笑就如此生氣
然後過度解讀為"不要对悲惨的事笑得那么开心,难道你们认为是可笑的事,认为不值得谈吗" "總要有人告訴年輕人嚴肅的問題"
這未免太過矯情
且嚴重缺乏幽默感和包容性
建議處方:每日閱讀偽基百科條目一則
2008-04-08 @ 18:12
迴響 from: 小郎君 [訪問者]
驚@@!
最後那張大圖不算正妹,應該是熟女,因為她是我國小同學~
然後我又是朱大的下一屆電機學弟,所以年紀應該有點....咳...
2008-04-08 @ 18:27
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
又被魔王打趴了...

忘了回:

臣以為,

李公家同見黑影就開槍的言論,其實走在時代的尖端.

"大部分鄉民都是這樣講話的"

...
......

(全文完)
2008-04-08 @ 18:41
迴響 from: MOCCA [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/jerryhsu/

在上位者,或是自認自己為高級知識分子的人

常常運用自己的標準來做衡量很多事情! 大家習慣就好!^^

感謝朱大再次借用我的照片,讓我的相簿流量暴增!

關於照片SG的腰是車身光線的反射,所造成的點狀分佈!

跟SG的狀態無關!

本人拍照時很注重禮節,不會刻意去拍意外的照片,也不會讓這種照片出現在我的相簿裡面!

畢竟攝影也需要一定的分寸,正妹人人愛看.但君子也須取之有道~~^^






2008-04-08 @ 18:43
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
那個閃光是SHOWGIRL穿著衣服的袖子上亮片的反光。

不好意思,我常看CSI。

另外也要代替他道歉,不好意思,我們阿宅很少看見真正的女性和真正的汗水.....科科~~~所以看到黑影就開槍也是很合理的...orz....


Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 19:07
迴響 from: MOCCA [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/jerryhsu/

恩! 我也應該多多看CSI了^^
2008-04-08 @ 19:26
迴響 from: lowpa [訪問者]
李教通訊理論的,他不可能不知道什麼是CDMA的,一定有什麼誤會
2008-04-08 @ 19:31
迴響 from: 哦 [訪問者]
話說csi回歸了
希望編劇不要再罷工了...
(亂聊)
2008-04-08 @ 19:45
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
驚!他教通訊理論的?

莫非掌握什麼國家機密我們不知道?

Lucifer



好厲害好會教.....
2008-04-08 @ 19:47
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
就說他走在時代的尖端呀...大家都誤會了科科.
2008-04-08 @ 19:51
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
(...又被打趴...)

哭哭.
2008-04-08 @ 19:54
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
李教授真是讓人失敬失敬......他還是國立暨南國際大學--通訊工程研究所的專!任!教!授!

噹噹噹.....

Lucifer

2008-04-08 @ 19:54
迴響 from: 輕輕走過 [訪問者]
專業...個人感覺是一種知識.技能,跟品德操守無關
只要是人都會犯錯
看到這篇文,我就想到之前朱大婊慈濟時
有位小蘿莉施主引用法條.貼判決文
極力的想要證明慈濟行為的"合法性"
戰到後面動不動就拿"法官已經判決確定了"當尚方寶劍(後來還拿迪士尼做比喻,我想我徹底誤會她了,她從一開始就認為慈濟是個營利團體阿~)
然後又不由自主的想到之前的"摸胸10秒"案(後來改判有罪)
學校教育除了專業技能外,人格品性的養成教育似乎很弱?
2008-04-08 @ 20:01
迴響 from: 小男孩 [訪問者]
我要問朱大
我用firefox
最底下的「請取消打叉以確定為真人留言」不見了
變成Enter this code: authimage-->
然後...可以直接留言不用管他耶
===============================================
發現bug有沒有獎勵?
2008-04-08 @ 20:12
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
不到台灣,不知道文革還在搞...
打倒臭老九!科科科...
2008-04-08 @ 20:13
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
這好像讓留言更方便了耶.....

科科~~~所以沒有獎勵~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 20:14
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
不到台灣,不知道演講不能科科笑......

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 20:17
迴響 from: HNZ [訪問者]
個人覺得...
可能又是記者搞出的烏龍阿...

P.S.我也作過新聞採訪相關工作...
我都覺得我在場聽到的跟報紙看到的有很大出入阿...= =a
2008-04-08 @ 20:47
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

棍!原來真的有人會連進留言中的LINK去看(我以為只有佛力札打悟空之類的貼圖大家才會看)……

所以我也很認真的照著留言去正妹大圖找反光……找不到……果然沒玩過逆轉裁判就是有差(雖然CSI有看)……

忽然發現都沒人注意朱大真正文章重點的日本AV危機,跑去GOOGLE查又沒發現相關新聞……查「AV」給我跳一堆防毒廣告……(結果這是去年年中的新聞耶……)

但是找到了這個:
「學生性知識,影視劇教的」
http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/big5/www.gd.xinhuanet.com/newscenter/2008-04/08/content_12903388.htm
「沒有日本的AV,中國的性教育將是一片空白。」

所以一切都是日本宅化鄰國,意圖讓其自然滅種的陰謀……

題外,該文提到的離由還有一項叫「審查員高齡化」。這樣對心臟不好吧……

2008-04-08 @ 21:07
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
CSI第八季終於在昨天晚上播了(一集).
2008-04-08 @ 21:13
迴響 from: 紅葉 [訪問者]
等好久第八季終於出了,希望邁阿密及紐約系列也能正常運作。

這次的模型屋殺手真的很可怕,依數據來說女性的連續殺人魔並不多,而非性侵害所造成的更是稀少,因此這次編劇所創造出來的角色實在很有特色,我想她的行為無關善惡,最多也只能說她是偏執到極點完美主義者吧。
2008-04-08 @ 21:28
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
我也不懂什麼CDMA, CDMB的,我的程度只會用
E-mail這種落後的通訊技術,我是個偽宅!
體諒老人家大概不會用部落格,直接寄信給他比較快!我大膽假設加州大學的計算機博士應該還會用E-mail吧?

rctlee@ncnu.edu.tw

戰吧戰吧!
打倒林一平!
打倒李家同!
打倒資產階級學術權威!!

2008-04-08 @ 22:21
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
左顧右盼...
奇怪,
姐妹們都上哪去了???

...................飄走~
2008-04-08 @ 22:25
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
路人太遜了,身為一個阿宅,這篇文章只是在等相田沙耶香新片時寫出來的而已。

要寄信給老頭你自己去,科科~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 23:19
迴響 from: 呼拉圈(鄉民) [訪問者]

科學不是鄉愿...科學也不是慈善事業
科學,是正確而精確地表達事實

李教授作了再多的好事,都不能也不該擁有發表錯誤(不符合科學事實)言論的特權

這樣的人如果當上教育部長或任何行政官員,只會用偏頗的角度執行自以為是的錯誤決策,導致別人的滅亡.
PS:事後還會被害人含淚以人格擔保他絕對沒有歹意??
2008-04-08 @ 23:34
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
李公遠哲道個歉教改就可以跟他沒關係了.
杜公正勝鼻孔挖一挖下台一鞠躬教育也可以跟他沒關係.
2008-04-08 @ 23:47
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
後面那一位論文其實寫的很棒,很難想像三隻小豬是怎麼來的.
2008-04-08 @ 23:49
迴響 from: 迪歐 [訪問者]
有教通訊原理不可能不知道什麼是CDMA吧= =

沒有那麼誇張吧= =

難道他只會AM FM RM

ker ker
2008-04-08 @ 23:49
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
迪歐不要以為你打英文我們就看不出來你在科科笑!

Lucifer
2008-04-08 @ 23:51
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
喀喀...<---光榮無雙OROCHI中文版織田信長的笑聲翻譯,果然只有阿宅才科科笑...明明是同樣的聲音英雄笑起來還是要做市場區隔...媽哩個A.
2008-04-08 @ 23:58
迴響 from: Ben [訪問者]
天底下最難的就是,「啥都不做」這件事情。
2008-04-08 @ 23:59
"三隻小豬"只是在教育部線上字典上的成語部分「找得到」而已啦...
就被人笑了這麼久
...最好這個線上字典是教育部長親自編的啊...

其實我滿怕這種滿口仁義道德的人
不過反正我不當學生已經很久了...
李公家同凍蒜!不作第二人想!支持李公家同出任教育部長!!
2008-04-09 @ 00:17
迴響 from: alberto [訪問者]
看到這篇讓我想起之前讀到的一篇報導
關於是否開放課堂上使用notebook,有種論點是:只要有一個學生使用google對講台上老師談論議題作搜尋,講台上老師面對的可是全人類集體智慧的檢驗,不可否認的。再這個時代的老師幾乎可以說是空前的難當。以前只要說的好像那麼一回事,端端嘴臉裝權威說錯了也不太有人發現。尤其李大教授又是對他不熟悉的領域發言,漏洞百出不難理解。只能奉勸李大教授「君子於其所不知,蓋闕如也」。記得多年前似乎因為921暨大到台大借教室跟李教授有所交集,當時李教授給我的感覺是有種「知識份子的傲慢」。「As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.」真正對於人類科學有顯著貢獻的愛因斯坦如是說。


順道一題,其實印度某方面真的是個有趣的國家,拜猴子還算好的。有間Karni Mata Temple來養老鼠ㄌㄟ。窮鄉僻壤小孩每個肚子餓到瘦巴巴依然每天提供新鮮的牛奶給老鼠喝。要不要再來個人鼠搶食的義憤填膺?


「Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school. 」
要提升學生素質需要的不是更多的豆知識,而是一種態度、一種求知的方法。在我眼裡人文關懷該是寬容的、謙卑的。很多人用自己的方式在默默作好事,開發出更有經濟價值的品種免費供應、CC自己作品創作、或是盡一己之力提供免費的教育資源盡量弭平貧富造成再知識起跑點上的不均。這些人對於提升國民素質的貢獻都大於一個高談闊論的驕傲教育理論家。

by the way還好我住要看歐美片,顆顆..
2008-04-09 @ 00:23
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
我來了~~~

自從上次熊抱話題讓朱大跟我說話之後...
就再也沒有感受到近距離的朱大了...(淚)

心碎....(奔)
2008-04-09 @ 00:25
迴響 from: Z.M. [訪問者]
現代媒體的權威性
讓人進入一個 "老師說" 的遊戲裡面

只要有人(身分地位名氣越高者)在媒體上說出言論
就有人會相信(效益越大)

朱大時事由是的精神(或說是怨念!?)
實在令人佩服
2008-04-09 @ 00:28
迴響 from: Adam [訪問者]
正咩,

妳忘了朱大有求必應只有愚人節那天啊? 我就說愚人節一過, 我們熟悉的朱大就會回來了吧!

現在是阿宅戀愛教室月, 如果妳提出跟阿宅之間的戀愛難題, 朱大說不定會回應的.

不過別肖想要拿朱大當宅男主角啦! 跟他無關的事情他才會回應的.... 科科~~~
2008-04-09 @ 00:35
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
>"三隻小豬"只是在教育部線上字典上的成語部分「找得到」而已啦...
>就被人笑了這麼久
>...最好這個線上字典是教育部長親自編的啊...

笑超久的啊...還沒停咧,已經變個人品牌了.
2008-04-09 @ 00:37
迴響 from: kuma [訪問者]
肚臍真棒+1....^^
2008-04-09 @ 00:42
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
教主
新教育部長您盯緊一點
李家同過於濫情很容易檢驗
柿子不要專挑軟的吃

2008-04-09 @ 00:43
迴響 from: 遜路人 [訪問者]
我不敢寄,心臟病發死了怎麼辦?
我是個遜宅!還是一起來抓相田沙耶香的片子好了,點解同一個人同時擁有E Cup和F Cup?
要抓哪一個好呢?
ㄎㄎㄎ
2008-04-09 @ 01:38
迴響 from: washishawn [訪問者]
插個花請教目白兄,

無雙OROCHI好玩嗎??

考慮入手中...
2008-04-09 @ 01:55
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
值得收藏,好不好玩見仁見智啦(將很多看起來就爽)...科科

ps.

1.劇情智障...會讓你在螢幕前擺囧字臉...(當然劇情不是重點)
2.魔王屌的跟BUG一樣...激難模式至今無法用張角打趴他(連傷一半都做不到)...雖然本人技術也挺爛.
3.俺台幣830入手.
2008-04-09 @ 02:12
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
另:

評價問題應往遊戲論壇找才合理,
在此地問阿宅難求大眾評價.

(遊戲也者,一收就是一系列...有些拆封都沒。)
2008-04-09 @ 02:37
迴響 from: washishawn [訪問者]
感謝目白兄的意見(這時候還不睡是要待命搶頭香嗎??),

身為資深無雙飯, 通常不需要太中肯的評論,
身為預算有限的無雙飯, 這種一片抵兩片(三國&戰國)的大鍋炒才是王道!!

>>(遊戲也者,一收就是一系列...有些拆封都沒。)
真是中肯!!在下本來也有相同的毛病...
2008-04-09 @ 03:48
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
誰?誰是新教育部長?

Lucifer
2008-04-09 @ 07:58
迴響 from: 阿宅宅 [訪問者]
朱大指出李背背的錯誤,當然是好。錯的東西被指出來,我完全沒異議。不過我對那種冷嘲熱諷的口氣還是很不能習慣啊。
2008-04-09 @ 08:29
迴響 from: 路過的 [訪問者]
這時候只能說
老毛會罵臭老九不是沒原因的

啊~~要補充說明
我愛台灣
不然以上發言有可能會被當成中共同路人XDDDD
2008-04-09 @ 09:03
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我都碼有說請謝謝對不起~~~

一整個口氣好....^_^

Lucifer

2008-04-09 @ 09:06
迴響 from: 李杯是王道 [訪問者]

對一個擔綱反派角色的邪惡阿宅而言,這種程度的口吻~恰如其分!恰如其分啦!

話說回來,我個人倒是蠻期待李杯杯擔綱教育部長演出的。

我想知道他老人家會不會真如他所言,實施從基礎教育就嚴格把關,還有縮小教育資源的城鄉差距呢?

姿勢份子的良心 VS 腦殘草莓農父母

萬民景仰大學者 PK 立院無雙眾武將

光想到就忍不住 科科科 的笑!

2008-04-09 @ 09:26
迴響 from: 吉尼 [訪問者]
李老伯最早是資工系所的教授啦
跑去通訊所大概也是學校新成立這個所,缺乏師資
所以找一堆別的系所的老師來支援兼任,只要能成立新系所申請到經費就好
至於老師的研究領域專長到底跟這新系所相不相關.....那就是另一回事了
我現在讀的就是這種研究所,所上兼任老師的研究領域跟該所完全不相干
讀的也不是很開心就是了。
東部某X華大學X子所,想念研究所的人千萬別來報名啊
同間學校的X機所到是可以考慮,雖然我夢到老師之間內鬥很凶。
2008-04-09 @ 09:29
迴響 from: 大頭真 [訪問者]
咳…看到李公就讓我想起以前某位養一身正氣的國文老師
『正氣歌』是他最愛的一課,老是說自己養正氣,就是要對抗我們這些穢氣,努力在課堂上往我們頭頂狂噴充滿正氣的口水…囧。
記得快畢業時他要我們交一篇文章,題目是「我們的國文老師」,他說歡迎任何指教批評,身為認真好學生的我,怎麼可以辜負他的期望呢,當然是老實寫啦……雖然我整篇誇他「養一身正氣令人敬佩」,但中間加一句真心話「喋喋不休廣播正氣種子」。他對這句話一直撿恨到畢業,看到我就吹鬍子瞪眼。讓一位滿身正氣的老人家如此,唉~~罪過~罪過~
2008-04-09 @ 09:42
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
吉尼讀的是東京大學光子力研究所?

驚!

Lucifer
2008-04-09 @ 10:22
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
朱大,千萬不要長他人志氣呀!

吉尼唸的是東部的大學中的光子力研究所。

終於,我們也要開發自己的無敵鐵金鋼了嗎?感覺上,變形金鋼比較帥呀!
2008-04-09 @ 11:06
迴響 from: 吉尼 [訪問者]
招牌是光子力研究所
師資跟光子力無關又有何用 XD
所以還是跟日本買鋼彈或是跟好萊屋買變形金鋼比較快
2008-04-09 @ 11:37
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
CDMA是個技術,但CDMA手機指的是用CDMA規格的手機~~~

Lucifer

這裡的讀者本來就都是阿宅界的領袖~~~
2008-04-09 @ 11:49
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
等一下!
我的相簿累積人氣已經998了?!

是不是要學一下圖文作家...
來個破千大抽獎...

XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2008-04-09 @ 11:51
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
來不及了,我去鬧場,破1001了。
2008-04-09 @ 11:55
迴響 from: 正宗元祖路人十文字 [訪問者]
說到高級知識份子的傲慢,在下心有戚戚焉,
我親戚中有人當教授,夫妻兩皆高級知識份子,
聊天的時候無論什麼話題都想要用它們自己的論點去辯駁別人,
即使是他們從來不看的漫畫,也煞有其事的發表高論,
哎呀,原來這就是高級知識份子的傲慢阿~

別這樣阿~
隨時自我膨脹是很猥褻的阿~~~
2008-04-09 @ 13:03
迴響 from: 不是丫亮仔 [訪問者]
其實,研究所入學考試繳交的「研究計劃書」並不是只徒具形式的。(這也是跳脫考生身份後,才突然發現……)

要貼上「研究生」標籤,就是被預設要對該領域有一定程度的學科基礎、研究熱情與興趣,當然,是否具備該領域的研究能力,也是考量的重點。而這些,從「研究計劃書」中,大約就可得見一斑,主考老師可以據此估評該生的學術潛能。

而入學考繳交的「研究計劃書」,與將來研究的題目不必然相關,也是心照不宣的潛規則:p



2008-04-09 @ 14:59
迴響 from: 不是丫亮仔 [訪問者]
補充一下,不同學科範疇,可能又不一樣。

2008-04-09 @ 15:00
迴響 from: 哦 [訪問者]
CSI系列都有正常運作
但是邁阿密從這季一開始就看不下去了

我最喜歡紐約!
2008-04-09 @ 15:24
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
驚!!!
考四技也要?
怎麼都沒聽說...(淚)

那誰也來幫我寫一份啊~~~(淚)
我也想要快樂的學習啊~~~(淚奔)
2008-04-09 @ 15:57
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
過度驚嚇......(倒地)
2008-04-09 @ 16:10
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
被討厭了(淚)



(蹲去牆角畫圈圈)
2008-04-09 @ 16:12
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
老李真是不得了.....

從小就覺得自己沒什麼了不起就嗆成這樣了......

Lucifer

萬一真的覺得自己很厲害還得了....

2008-04-09 @ 17:37
迴響 from: Leo Liao [訪問者]
其實有時不是他太強,
是我們這些對手太弱呀...
2008-04-09 @ 17:44
迴響 from: 來喜姐姐 [訪問者]
喜歡朱大真相追追追的精神
畢竟一般大眾是不了的
關於李杯杯,我沒有好惡,不過你給了大家一個好的示範
不人云亦云 不把專家或權威當神
至於李杯杯當教長...我想一定比老杜好多了
2008-04-09 @ 17:45
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
整段廢話.
2008-04-09 @ 18:19
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
  只有藝術家拉出來的屎才有機會成為藝術品,其他人拉出來的屎還是屎,阿宅咧?整個人直接被當成屎。

  (唉唉回應法)
2008-04-09 @ 18:24
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
李公公的文俺看的也不少.

打高空的寫作方式看開頭即知結尾,最後本人直接看題目再跳結尾.
2008-04-09 @ 18:33
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
說到高級知識份子的傲慢,在下心有戚戚焉
----'低'知識分子不也只以自己所能看到的領域,來評判'高'知識分子?
妳爽就好

Communication theory 偏向的是
modulation / sampling / probabilities
pulse / wave
LTI / filters
Signal / noise
還有許多沒被列上的
CDMA? 您說笑吧 會有哪一個大學課程詳細討論CDMA的
上課會花10分鐘討論CDMA的新聞就不錯了...(也可以說教授在浪費學生時間,看從哪個角度出發)

大學教的是基礎理論概念 以及如何去思考 怎樣去處理問題 處理問題的能力 分析各個不同的資訊的能力
而好壞大學的差異就是:
除了提過的幾個方面外 能讓學生有多少實作經驗,有多少能力將學到的應用到實際世界中

企業界跟學術界總是有滿大的落差 但卻也是息息相關的
至於李教授對於她教的科目 懂多少 請不要找我 ... 我也不知道
2008-04-09 @ 18:39
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
anyway ... 對於高還是低知識分子我沒意見(不是重點)
而且看要從什麼出發點來做分析 從哪個價值觀著力
重點是.
看不慣隨便一竿子打翻人的邏輯
2008-04-09 @ 18:44
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
一竿子打翻人太無趣了,我們要一點一點的打呀!

Lucifer

譬如說:為什麼一個教導通訊理論的教授會把CDMA的新聞搞錯,科科,而同一個人還跳出來說工程教育只重視理論,不重視實作.....難道他的意思是(我的)工程教育只重視理論,不重視實作嗎?

那這樣就十分值得敬佩了~~~
2008-04-09 @ 19:19
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
扯大道理活人講不贏死人留下來的.

鄉民等級的回應打的翻誰(包括本回應)

哪來的竿,哪來的人真的翻.

施主施主是您的心在動.
2008-04-09 @ 19:52
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"----'低'知識分子不也只以自己所能看到的領域,來評判'高'知識分子?
妳爽就好"

對不起...這不是爽的問題.

如同教育系的教授有了自己的孩子才知道小孩難帶,
同是教育作者基層教師輸的是社會地位,不代表專業不如。
2008-04-09 @ 20:01
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
(叩關第27次失敗!)
2008-04-09 @ 20:02
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
奇怪.

"教育工作者" 的"工"為什麼會跳到上面去.

真是見鬼.
2008-04-09 @ 20:03
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
(張角張角不要死...)
2008-04-09 @ 20:05
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
目白兄:

來組隊吧!(握拳)
2008-04-09 @ 21:51
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
有在盯喔...
2008-04-09 @ 22:08
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 幫人宣傳 [訪問者] · http://www.pixnet.net/photo/somewheresomeone/85577499
要回答一下。

老實說,當我按下”Enter”,才想起,有人要我畫一萬個圈圈才能留言,按都按了,無法undo了。

只畫到2803個,今天休息了,明天繼續畫。
2008-04-09 @ 22:27
迴響 from: 李杯是王道 [訪問者]

........

你最好真的有算畫幾圈....

2008-04-09 @ 22:51
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
...

......

最好真的有在畫圈...

另:

單機遊戲只能跟上帝組隊.

激嗨!!(隊友好殘忍)
2008-04-09 @ 23:18
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
今天再度腦殘兼想睡覺...所以想回應樓上上上上上上上上上的遜路人先生
>>相田沙耶香的片子好了,點解同一個人同時擁有E Cup和F Cup?
其實,只是左右邊大小不一樣而已,就像人手左右邊長度也不一樣,這是"正常"現象
2008-04-10 @ 00:16
迴響 from: 路人丙 [訪問者]
這篇李先生的報社投書, 只有一個重點, 他想強調工業發展的重要, 可惜引喻失意, 舉例不當,
話說回來, 當出扁市長禁電玩, 自認走正確的路, 現在來看可能是錯的
那麼李先生強調工業發展的重要, 是否也是錯的方針? 這才是應該討論的重點
朱大要批評李先生, 不妨直接從結論來評, 可能比較不會失焦
2008-04-10 @ 00:40
迴響 from: CSY [訪問者]
喔喔,
朱大有看真相之眼跟CSI啊。

真相之眼整套我也收集完畢了。
不過以前有人拿他和另一套比較,
說它的藝術資訊錯誤比較多。


CSI我還是比較喜歡拉斯維加斯
一直覺得邁阿密有兩個問題(我都是看DVD,所以只到第四季)
演了好幾季,角色的背景和個性還是描寫的不足。
劇情上走煽情風而虎爛過度。
例如那個颱風天的子彈。

David Caruso的裝模作樣看到有時會覺得反感了。
2008-04-10 @ 00:49
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
老大...我不知道妳的教育是否只重視理論
不過目前來說大多數的教育都只重視理論
也有重視實作的學校 但是不多
如我說的 能夠讓學生實作的學校 基本上就越是好學校

至於CDMA該教授到底是搞錯沒搞錯 還是根本就是太老的新聞
這我也不知道

- -;
所以說不認同就在一旁納涼
將心靜下來? 失主阿失主

呃,我一句話也沒說 誰是高知識分子 誰是低知識分子
我只是針對目標回文嘲諷罷了

每個人都有自己專業的領域 專業的方向與目標不同
所以, 李先生 我不太確定您說的是想反駁什麼?
2008-04-10 @ 03:00
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"不過目前來說大多數的教育都只重視理論"

俺得提醒你這是相當含糊籠統基本教義派常用的表達方式。
  任何一個人不需要是教育工作者也可以隨便下同樣的結論,而大部分的結論皆是打高空的屁話。
  效力同等於:"現在景氣真差"
->只能閒聊用,講話的人了解不多是常態。

但那不重要,大家爽就好。
舉那個例子只有一個重點:

  本來擁有權力的決策者就可以不用是最了解問題的人(即使這相當悲哀),見狗屁即跳腳者也不見得清楚狗屁的成分。
  大家都是知識份子誰該聽誰的?是不是會開始界定誰高誰低?當然當然,怎麼做?用了那種方式做了決定會產生什麼後果?有什麼地方無法顧及?

  "每個人都有自己專業的領域 專業的方向與目標不同"
  這雖然是事實,也無法為體制下的斷層現象做適當的解釋。

  知識分子誰高誰低怎樣算高怎樣算低毋需避談,本來那就是問題的根源。

  反正只是個回應又匿名,鍵盤敲下這一行應該是很輕鬆的:

  "你們算哪根蔥,哪來的高度去看李教授有沒有禿頭,除了抓抓小毛病來說嘴外還懂些什麼!"

  (這樣誠實多了)
2008-04-10 @ 04:19
迴響 from: Shuyi [訪問者]
Anyone except me agree that Mr. Chu behaves just like 令狐沖? If I were to pick one character in Jin-Yuong's novels that resembles Mr. Chu, it'd be 令狐沖...

2008-04-10 @ 04:48
迴響 from: 奚隹 [訪問者]
其實當田伯光也不錯啊 (誤)
2008-04-10 @ 09:22
迴響 from: davidtso [訪問者]
上面有人說到知識份子的傲慢...
很讚的一種說法

而且是否該泛指每個有知識能夠指出別人知識錯誤的人
也都該想想自己有沒有這種傲慢的心態?
2008-04-10 @ 09:31
...獨孤求敗?!
2008-04-10 @ 09:31
看來李公家同校長的人緣不錯啊...
2008-04-10 @ 09:32
迴響 from: chuck [訪問者]
建議各位可以去書店看看李老出的新書
在書店看看就好了....
2008-04-10 @ 10:03
迴響 from: 911 [訪問者]
幾天沒來
怎麼突然就有了阿宅戀愛教室月
科科...

李家同類比成岳不群
真是個好比喻
2008-04-10 @ 12:39
迴響 from: Sagitta [訪問者]
引述R:"CDMA? 您說笑吧 會有哪一個大學課程詳細討論CDMA的"

依通訊技術來看,CDMA TDMA FDMA 是最最基本的三種無線傳輸通訊技術,大學教無線通訊沒深入理解 CDMA?那真的是白教了......;

依通訊規格來看,GSM/WCDMA/HSPA所屬的3GPP是全球市佔第一,CDMA/2000 1X/EVDO所屬的3GPP2是全球市佔第二,差不多兩成左右,約有五、六億使用人口......;

再者,從WCDMA之後,3GPP也開始用CDMA技術,所以稱為WCDMA,中國也是,所以稱TD-SCDMA,只是未來的4G,不論WiMax或LTE,都改採OFDMA來衝傳輸速度~

對不起.......我認真了~
2008-04-10 @ 14:37
迴響 from: 毆爸媽的牧師 [訪問者]
譬如說:為什麼一個教導通訊理論的教授會把CDMA的新聞搞錯
譬如說:為什麼一個警察會把犯人給抓錯
譬如說:為什麼法官會把一件案子判錯
譬如說:為什麼某某候選人會把自己的政見說錯
譬如說:為什麼趨勢大師說趨勢還是會說錯
譬如說:為什麼股神巴菲特買股票還是會買錯
譬如說:為什麼上次明明擲爻說我會中樂透,結果神明搞錯

我也想知道為什麼?為什麼我的爸爸不是李嘉誠??
2008-04-10 @ 14:38
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"為什麼上次明明擲爻說我會中樂透,結果神明搞錯"

俺有同樣的問題
2008-04-10 @ 14:40
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
有關於你爸為什麼不是李嘉誠這個問題......

不好意思,要問伯母,我們不知道呀~~~

Lucifer
2008-04-10 @ 14:46
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
朱學恆的阿宅戀愛相談室
↑......主題不是這個嗎?



2008-04-10 @ 15:02
迴響 from: Blue [訪問者]
有啊 話題被拉回戀愛月相關啦~

關於問伯母的部分.......
2008-04-10 @ 15:49
迴響 from: kuangX2 [訪問者]
問一下吧『毆爸媽的牧師』
就像阿宅們說的
「不是一巴掌,就是一輩子!」

加油
2008-04-10 @ 16:46
迴響 from: 迷思羊 [訪問者]
朱大除了不得罪人會死的病之外
還有回文只針對嘲諷者的傾向

包子妹
有收到攻擊方針嗎?
2008-04-10 @ 16:55
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我還有今天被微軟強迫換了Firefox的傾向和不科科笑就會死的症狀!

Lucifer
2008-04-10 @ 17:02
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
說到這個生病...

分享一位奇人經典名言:

"我...一輩子...生病..."

"怎麼回事?"

"我是天才..."

後來在長江七號看到了異曲同工的台詞...
突然覺得那位朋友可能走在時代的尖端.
2008-04-10 @ 17:14
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
一言難盡~
吶~
我簡單說吧!
話說~
有人要捐"米格魯"給我當"導盲犬"...
大概就是這樣~
但是米格魯好小~我應該會採到牠吧!
然後,
又有人說,要捐黃金給我當導盲犬...
可是...
我那麼小隻...
黃金~沒受過訓練,會把我拖著在馬路上跑吧~
結束...
2008-04-10 @ 17:31
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
火星...
現在是在說真的?
2008-04-10 @ 19:23
迴響 from: 迷思羊 [訪問者]
遺憾正妹促進月結束了
好久沒看到大帥哥圖
戀愛相談室
也沒談出場戀愛來
這裡展示的都是上了年紀的老杯杯
(朱大還都偏好姓李的)
有空還是造福一下正妹促進月的遺孤好嗎
當作售後服務唄
2008-04-10 @ 19:37
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

你們難道不知道阿宅也是正妹騙到手之後就故態萌發嗎……朱大已經進入始亂終棄模式了……

2008-04-10 @ 20:58
迴響 from: CSY [訪問者]
真的嗎,朱大也在用Firefox了!
記得有用的套件要裝一裝,
然後當開網站的速度變慢的時候,
或許部落格系統也會換一換?(做白日夢中)

不過,為什麼被強迫?


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說到眼科手術,
現在那個雷射手術我完全不會想去做。
理由:有看過哪個戴眼鏡的眼科醫生去做的?
2008-04-10 @ 22:53
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
有的課會深入教
要看暨南大學的那一堂課 課表怎樣
根據暨南大學的課名 英文翻法 Communication Fundamental
該課非常有可能不討論 CDMA, 有沒有人現身說法一下?

話說通訊可以教的東西很多
您覺得不教CDMA就是白教嘛?

這樣說吧, 李目白
那的確是很籠統 不過我也是刻意籠統
因為就我所知的大學 我所知的教授 我所知的業界管理人 我所知的學生
絕大多數都有這個感覺 以及認同這個說法
首先 我不想找那些人背書 當我論點的引據
(就像寫報告 還要列出說誰誰誰啥時說 發表在什麼上面)
其次 就算作為引據 也有可能會有人說"那只能說妳是井底之蛙 ooxx...."
(更沒意義說 因為世界上幾萬所大學 隨便找也都有不同點)
所以我選擇刻意籠統

妳要覺得那是屁話 就是屁話吧 如同朱老大說的
"人其實是無法「說服」別人的,即使你用了再嚴密的邏輯架構、再有說服力的論調,回家後所有人的腦袋裡仍然裝著同樣的東西。"

另外請妳定義一下"體制下的斷層現象".

知識份子高低怎樣算 不是避談 而是那很難界定(也的確是某些問題根源)

最後一句妳是想自己說 還是暗諷我應該說?
如果是暗諷我應該說 很抱歉 我並沒有打算這樣說
因為我能理解朱老大的出發點
但我也能理解李杯杯的出發點(雖然說有說錯話的地方)
2008-04-10 @ 23:39
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
誰告訴你教育是在看大學,
誰告訴你教育問題是在看教授怎麼說,
誰告訴你教育問題要問業界管理人,
誰告訴你教育問題要問大學學生.

走一趟國民中小學(那是最基本的國民義務教育),
學校經營誰在跟你講理論.
2008-04-11 @ 00:05
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
噗...
乾脆回家看算了
教育問題根本出在家庭

槓... 我真是過度認真了
2008-04-11 @ 00:17
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
以下故事如有雷同,純屬意外:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  選後縣長換人幹,人事佈局為方便行事,換了教育局長,與課員與督學。不幸的是這次洗牌替換掉的是老將,年輕的局長從中央派來,即使是在地人,對於地方文化竟也不甚了解。

  反正沒差,國民中小學校長與長官處的好不好最大的差異莫過於資源的爭取,消極來說,辦學者只需顧好自己的學校就算善盡了自己的本分,來校察看的督學是啥都不懂的菜鳥也無所謂,公務員例行公事相當好應付。

  一名師範院校剛畢業的學生對未來是恐懼的。實習一年剛剛結束,隨即面臨的是少子化造成教師超額的問題,預計未來十年只剩流浪一途...在學校教育實習的課程並不是這麼的紮實,一直到實習那年工友兼代課老師加補習班的壓力下,很無奈的開始找自己第二條活路。

  國民小學年輕教師充滿了熱情,配合學校本位,他們有自己的想法,成立了社團與校隊...參予了幾場比賽獲得佳績,校長很開心。這所學校畢業的的孩子好幸福,因為他們可能進入國中前就學了直排輪,會了幾樣樂器,甚至還會游泳...

  同一縣的國民中學的學生過的似乎是不同次元的生活,升學仍是該校的重要目標,至少家長很在意,學生想進理想的高中還是只能處於補習與考試中。奇怪?其他社團活動與藝文相關課程呢?明著不可行,私底下教師仍借了課考試補進度...也許不能怪他們,大家等著看結果。
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扯到這裡,就已經出現幾個斷層.
界定哩...理論哩...還論述哩.
2008-04-11 @ 00:35
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]

講屁話認真還是屁話.
2008-04-11 @ 00:36
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"如果是暗諷我應該說 很抱歉 我並沒有打算這樣說
因為我能理解朱老大的出發點
但我也能理解李杯杯的出發點(雖然說有說錯話的地方)"

是這樣當然最好,
在這裡想那麼做的留言最後都會死。
2008-04-11 @ 00:57
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
啊...故事有錯字.反正沒差.
2008-04-11 @ 01:21
迴響 from: adriana [訪問者] · http://profile.imeem.com/_xz74S/photos/
我不要看李杯杯文,我要恰奇文恰奇文!!超想念朱大的阿宅知識教室~多發文多發文,看你的文章是我的精神糧食!
2008-04-11 @ 01:25
迴響 from: 遜路人 [訪問者]
累積了近200篇留言之後,終於有人提到家庭教育,雖然只有一句話...
假如幾千年的考試科舉制度(你要說50年也可以啦),家長的觀念
可以由某個教育部長改變,這種人才去當教育部長也太浪費了。

2008-04-11 @ 01:36
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
確定那是人嗎.

那是神好不好.
2008-04-11 @ 01:38
迴響 from: 遜路人 [訪問者]
簡單歸納2邊講法,
挺李派認為老李是個老好人,還是個傢伙,
雖然引喻失當,但他要表達的觀念是正面的。

非挺李派認為老李是個假老好人,不是個傢伙,
放的屁是香的,就是要打倒這種臭老九,鬥臭這
種資產階級學術權威!!

而兩派的小孩已經和解共生了。
我昨天抓到了相田沙耶香的88E了,好嫩啊,KiKiKi
我昨天抓的是橘的耶,僕類僕類啦!
好啊!kekeke~~~KiKiKi~~~
2008-04-11 @ 02:09
迴響 from: 遜路人 [訪問者]
有鑒於阿宅對老女人都沒興趣了,
更何況是個老家伙
下月新企劃緊急推出
女優的的辣妹廚房,阿宅的做愛教室
日本人為前殖民地上的課。
2008-04-11 @ 02:28
迴響 from: 遜路人 [訪問者]
實在很想繼續寫,不過正妹通常有個觀念,
會孝順父母的男人最高!不然阿公阿媽父母兄弟,
只要有心,人人都是教育部長。接下來就更有的講了。只是會被正妹嫌惡(這種不孝子!幹),我不敢講!朱大哥是對的,我果然是個遜宅啊啊啊...
2008-04-11 @ 02:46
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
在這裡想不想怎樣做
都會死
科科...

"會孝順父母的男人最高!"我倒是沒聽過
2008-04-11 @ 06:50
迴響 from: 李杯是王道 [訪問者]

1.通訊原理課程可能沒深入探討CDMA我是贊同啦,不過戰到現在,我已經搞不清楚李杯杯的定位到底是IEEE Fellow大學者還是混吃等死沒未來的大學生呢?好謎啊...

2.誰告訴你「正妹通常有個觀念,會孝順父母的男人最高!」這種偽知識的啊!掯~

3.毆爸媽的牧師說:
譬如說:為什麼一個教導通訊理論的教授會把CDMA的新聞搞錯
譬如說:為什麼上次明明擲爻說我會中樂透,結果神明搞錯
這兩句真是前後呼應啊,老師上課您真的有放情感下去聽~感動~

關於「為什麼我的爸爸不是李嘉誠??」這個問題...

問伯母這種答案實在太沒誠意、太沒建設性了!

要是我的話,我會衝去問李澤楷他老母~「為什麼你要代替我媽?」

事情就是要上的了版面才有轉機,電視上都嘛是這要教的~~


2008-04-11 @ 07:17
迴響 from: 李杯是王道 [訪問者]


馬的~忘了科科笑~

科科~
2008-04-11 @ 07:19
迴響 from: stevenwin [訪問者]
怎麼辦李杯杯好像也是下任教育部長熱門人選耶?
我們可不想要再有個杜丁丁呀?
2008-04-11 @ 22:22
迴響 from: Billy [訪問者]
我想可以這樣講,我去看了一下李杯杯的文章,其實他對於教育的很多想法也和我蠻一致的,
當下真的有點覺得這人真的是好人啊,但是等一下,
既然他的那些想法我也有,那我是不是也可以當教育部長呢?

我想實際的問題總是在表面之下,光有願景不足以成事吧,而且沒幽默感的人最無趣了.

想當年小弟也祟拜李遠哲祟拜得要命,結果....
2008-04-11 @ 22:28
迴響 from: Billy [訪問者]
剛剛順便看到了一篇文章,有人拿超級星光大道和american idol相比,然後引申到台灣政治亂象,

又想到之前某公子拿超級杯敗者的運動家精神引申到國X黨不服輸,
(PCDVD上有人說其實他佩服的那一隊在季初還因為偷拍對手暗號被抓包),

這種拿自己的認知亂比喻到其它不相干的方面...每個人都會啊,但不是做事的好方法吧,寫寫文章就算了,
要來當部長...真的行嗎?
2008-04-11 @ 22:35
迴響 from: 李杯是王道 [訪問者]

新聞說劉校長確定是行政院長~

看來李杯的登基之路前途無亮啊~

科科...

2008-04-11 @ 23:41
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
驚!李杯杯確定為教育部長了...
2008-04-12 @ 00:15
迴響 from: Under [訪問者]
樓上的 你怎魔知道阿@@
如果是真的我還挺擔心的,雖然我不像朱大叔看的出他那裡說錯,但總覺得他講話內容跟我認知有些落差。
我也相信他是有熱忱的,不過我實覺得人有時候不要倚老賣老,偶爾還是要更新一下自己的腦袋。
大家也許會因為尊敬你不當面給你難看,但做一個學者到這種地步總覺得不太好哦。
所以他當教育部長到底好不好呢,這我也不知道,搞不好他很會知人善任也不一定,不過有點擔心就是了ˊˋ
2008-04-12 @ 02:52
迴響 from: Under [訪問者]
話說之前我看到朱大好像有在教育部的工作耶
現在就這樣得罪下任部長,是不是該準備一下紙箱了阿@@
2008-04-12 @ 02:58
迴響 from: 仙山居士 [訪問者] · http://blog.yam.com/ozasik
To Under:
沒那麼誇張吧?又不是幫別人站台罵李杯杯是小○○(?)
2008-04-12 @ 21:11
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
李杯杯是小圈圈!

Lucifer
2008-04-12 @ 21:15
迴響 from: Mar kmc m [訪問者] · http://lulalala.blogspot.com
雖然李家同的發言的確有很多錯誤,
但是我覺得他文章的主題不是這些吧,
純粹是舉例錯誤。
像是那篇CDMA,主題應該是說工業化是很重要的。

但是我認為他作教育部長應該是能有一翻新氣象的。
做的好不好誰也不知道,我只知道他會從教育界中的弱勢地區開始。

關於他在演講中發脾氣的事,
我覺得這是因為他十年前去了印度的垂死之家作義工,
看到那裡的窮困以及病人,
所以對於印度的窮困非常敏感。
發脾氣的確不是很好的行為,
但是後面的原因我還是能瞭解。
2008-04-13 @ 05:51
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
喔,我以前也這麼覺得。

Lucifer

套一句以前跟他共事的某校校長的講法:
垂死之家這件事確實很辛苦,
但很多人為善不欲人知,低頭就是做下去就對了,
李杯杯是作一次講幾千幾萬次,這可是門好生意呀!

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