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迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
嗯.
2008-04-29 @ 21:31
迴響 from: 沉默 [訪問者]
0.0 第2?
2008-04-29 @ 21:34
迴響 from: stevenwin [訪問者]
這篇寫得太好了~
雖然拿不到頭香,
還是要含淚推!!
台灣今天的民主自由都是柏楊這一輩的人權鬥士用生命血淚奮鬥而來的,
我們真的要好好珍惜得來不易的自由,
希望柏楊老先生能一路好走~
P.S.台灣新聞媒體對柏楊逝世的報導還是少於政治人事案的風風雨雨 = =
2008-04-29 @ 21:40
迴響 from: 輕輕走過 [訪問者]
異域,這本小說我還留著,國中時看了數十次
現在卻在書架上積灰塵...
電影也看了好幾次
每次看完都眼睛進沙子.....
2008-04-29 @ 21:42
迴響 from: 輕輕走過 [訪問者]
老兵不死
只是逐漸凋零.....
2008-04-29 @ 21:44
迴響 from: alithsia [訪問者]
看完這篇,
除了感傷一個具有反骨知識份子的逝去.
更為自己的年輕!?!?與無知感到難過..
2008-04-29 @ 21:49
迴響 from: 素官長 [訪問者]
10名前
異域....感動ㄟ!!!
2008-04-29 @ 21:55
迴響 from: CATBALA [訪問者]
第8
0.0
2008-04-29 @ 21:58
迴響 from: 真三雙五 [訪問者]
第一次讀柏陽的書那時還是禁書.
讀異域時已經解嚴,印象最深作者是郭衣洞.
年少記憶!
2008-04-29 @ 22:03
迴響 from: rainy [訪問者]
最後的連結確有畫龍點睛之妙!!
2008-04-29 @ 22:09
迴響 from: 威爾 [訪問者]
老是聽人家談"醜陋的中國人"
這還是第一次看到原文......
2008-04-29 @ 22:11
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
也許是我太年輕 =_= (迷之聲:你這話是什麼意思!!!)
經歷太少了
不懂當中的情懷 =_=

可惡!!!
努力正和欲望對抗!!!
2008-04-29 @ 22:14
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
"我們不必整天要我們的國家強大,國家不強大有什麼關系?衹要人民幸福。在人民幸福了之後,再去追求強大不遲"
看到這段話時他就突然直接烙進我的腦袋裡了
先看完朱大貼的異域我還沒有什麼太多感覺
看完醜陋的中國人以後不知道為甚麼讓我有種想流淚的衝動
儒家不是錯,但是中國幾千年來只剩儒家就變成蠱
戰國時期百家爭鳴結果養出最強的蠱
讓中國人暈陶陶了幾千年
我覺得中國儒家的精華是不是"獨"?獨善其身?
這篇我必須加到我的最愛裡面
2008-04-29 @ 22:15
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
柏楊這篇文章,忘了何時看過,
是的,本人一些人格上的缺點,到現在也沒什麼長進。

(只會口頭認錯,誠奴性使然也)

"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"
"報告是!"

(一整個悲哀,悲哀不知何從悲哀)
2008-04-29 @ 22:19
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
NO.15

太晚來了~
2008-04-29 @ 22:24
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
vxa...你在上海...應該也接觸過不少生意人,感觸應該很深吧...
2008-04-29 @ 22:28
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
是的,我在上海呆不到一年我就非常非常想念台灣了,
同樣是中國人為什麼會有這麼大的差異?
為甚麼會讓我如此的難以接受?
所以去年十月我辭掉那邊的主管工作回家吃自己吃到現在哩
2008-04-29 @ 22:31
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
在內地,大陸生意人吃台商,台商自己也吃台商,
上面最後那句沒真的認識幾個台商是永遠不會知道的。

(嘆)
2008-04-29 @ 22:34
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
  很有趣的是,當俺提這個事實,做出了這樣理所當然的結論:
"倒底我們身上留著還是中國人的血。"
  該句話保證在雞叫派之間發酵,什麼抱大腿賣台的指控全部一起來。(選前尤甚<-台灣民眾的政治狂熱不在了解政策與社會問題,反而在政治人物與文字遊戲上投入了過分的心力。)

  (一整個智障)
2008-04-29 @ 23:01
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
  更無奈的是,在此地回覆如此憤世嫉俗婊的竟然也是自己人!
  而在現實生活裡卻也只能低調的像條狗。

  (一整個丟臉)

2008-04-29 @ 23:09
迴響 from: Miniryu [訪問者]
推。
他是一個真正了解中國人的人。
他的文章在現在聖火啊奧運啊藏獨啊鬧的沸沸揚揚的時候更是顯得真知灼見。
2008-04-29 @ 23:09
迴響 from: AL [訪問者]
為什麼我突然想到日本的「再見!絕望先生」。
特別是怕事那段...一整個就跟某集動畫裡面,
老是認為自己出錯有異曲同工之妙=.=
2008-04-29 @ 23:17
迴響 from: 天鐵 [訪問者]
這本書很久以前就看過了,一直以來還有印象的
就是那段“中國人通通是在一個名為中華文化的
醬缸裡蠕動的蛆“

有很多根深蒂固的觀念,是錯的...
每個人都會講要改,卻很少人做的到。
2008-04-29 @ 23:30
迴響 from: 紅葉 [訪問者] · http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/redyeh
默哀中.............
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其實我並沒看過柏楊先生多少作品,我的印象中只有一部,那就是白話版的資治通鑑。這一套書對我的影響很大,燃起了我對歷史的興趣,也讓我能深思在官方語言底下的歷史會有其他種種可能,而他文中的柏楊曰更是經典,以今觀古,讓我在唉息憤恨能感到少許的痛快和領悟。不可否認的,柏楊先生的文筆寫出了許多中國人固有問題及毛病,但是我覺得有些地方的批評是過於的自我,使得對於他所批評的對象並不是那麼公道,但我覺得這是環境所造成,況且這種事一項是見人見智的,公道自在人心。可是我覺得伯老翻譯資治通鑑的意義可就大大不同了,將一部百萬字的文言文翻譯成白話文,雖然文中還是摻雜許多個人的意志,但是光是翻譯成白話文所用的時間及心力便已算是功德無量了,而用西元紀年的方式讓我們後代的子孫閱讀時可說是受益無窮。

或許以後我們人類還是會像柏老筆下的那麼軟弱及醜陋,但是柏楊版資治通鑑的存在,將會讓「以史為鏡,可以知興替」這點
永遠的流傳下去。


2008-04-29 @ 23:35
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"以史為鏡,可以知興替"

不是俺愛潑冷水,求學以降,該論調誰講最多?

  學!生!

面對現實之時,理想的人看不見人的理想,眼神都死了。
2008-04-29 @ 23:44
迴響 from: zigreal [訪問者]
男子漢看異域就應該流淚!
2008-04-29 @ 23:45
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
原來

奴性是從師承開始的阿

過去一直以為完全是儒家變異的錯

罵董仲舒和朱熹好久了說
2008-04-30 @ 00:00
迴響 from: SWP [訪問者]
誠懇地請求能夠轉載。

中國人... 值不值得被幫助呢?
2008-04-30 @ 00:01
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
轉載歡迎,裡面有些連結要記得一起轉走喔!

Lucifer
2008-04-30 @ 00:03
迴響 from: SWP [訪問者]
非常感謝, 但是....

....

........

朱大, 你是守在電腦前面等回應是吧
2008-04-30 @ 00:05
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我是明天一早飛機飛香港,在香港出關受訪,然後再飛上海......

Lucifer

←而且我在思考為什麼要在胸部抹奶油,太浪費糧食了~~~
2008-04-30 @ 00:09
迴響 from: SWP [訪問者]
"←而且我在思考為什麼要在胸部抹奶油,太浪費糧食了~~~"

不會啊... 如果塗完後讓我來慢慢吃掉, 就一點都不浪費了. *眼光閃爍*

科科科科
2008-04-30 @ 00:11
迴響 from: yyx [訪問者]
我異域和孤軍看了很多遍
每次看都無法轉台
之前有雜誌去探訪孤軍後裔
也是讓我感慨不已

敬柏楊
2008-04-30 @ 00:12
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"而且我在思考為什麼要在胸部抹奶油,太浪費糧食了~~~"

←俺思考的則是:

 "為什麼很多正妹的網誌都不知在寫些什麼."

ps.該女性身材蠻不錯的,
  攝影技術有要求效果應該會更好些
2008-04-30 @ 00:16
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
哪輪的到你吃,我我我我......

Lucifer

然後小明家就爆炸了!
2008-04-30 @ 00:18
迴響 from: 機殼 [訪問者]
上禮拜吧
八卦板出現一篇天涯到PTT觀光的文章
附了一個天涯的連結
裡面有篇帖子
大陸人跟台灣人吵得可兇了....

吵一吵我看到了件事
所謂的教育真的是很可怕的東西啊.....
控制思想於無形

不去看看還真不知道....
海峽兩岸的人
其實完全一樣
一樣的膚淺
一樣的短視
一樣的可悲.....
2008-04-30 @ 00:19
迴響 from: 紅葉 [訪問者] · http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/redyeh
to 李目白 兄

「以史為鏡,可以知興替」這句話最重要的是要有史呀。歷史的教訓是不斷的在重複的,而讀史知史之人最能瞭解這點,所以我們要在當權者因權利而蒙蔽了雙眼之際,讓他們知道我們的眼睛可沒瞎呀。
2008-04-30 @ 00:20
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
原來朱大也喜歡大奶奶...orz
真的是男人的天性
乾脆以後養一頭母牛好了
2008-04-30 @ 00:29
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
紅葉:

理想性的論述,與烏托邦的推崇無異。
2008-04-30 @ 00:34
迴響 from: 機殼 [訪問者]
以史為鏡 可以知興替

有種說法 來自於一本童書

東方人相信時間是輪迴
西方人相信時間是直線前進

那本故事書說
其實都對
時間是呈螺旋狀前進的

所以
時間會一直向前
而歷史會不斷重演......
2008-04-30 @ 00:47
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"原來朱大也喜歡大奶奶...orz"

請跟著俺一起念:

胸!奴!人!
2008-04-30 @ 00:48
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
(幫別人貼標籤總是樂趣無限)
2008-04-30 @ 00:52
迴響 from: Lin_0093 [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/win0083
整篇正義凜然的文章 ....

最後,看到一位胸部塗奶油的裸妹,我已經忘了文章在講什麼了 .... 囧
2008-04-30 @ 01:12
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
我也是胸奴人...orz
2008-04-30 @ 01:13
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
話說....看到前半段的回應俺還有那麼多的熱血
看完後半段以後俺的熱血全部轉向~
大家跟著一起喊
" " "
胸!奴!人! 胸!奴!人! 胸!奴!人!
" " "
2008-04-30 @ 01:29
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
是明天(今天了)一早走啊
一帆風順~~
2008-04-30 @ 01:31
今年中外殞落了不少大師......

柏楊先生的這篇文章好久以前看過(是不是國中啊...)當時很震撼
隔了這麼久重讀一次,還是很震撼(啥)
2008-04-30 @ 01:36
迴響 from: 阿狒 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/xtaipei
孤軍的電影好像是俺第一次進電影院看的
時間真是飛逝ㄚ~
文章明天再看了~
2008-04-30 @ 01:48
迴響 from: Z.M. [訪問者]
一開始滿腔熱血 到最後都流錯地方了
中國人的劣根性 = ="

好文章
共勉之
2008-04-30 @ 01:50
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
是的~中國人就是容易被莫名其妙的呼嚨過企~
俺一下子就被轉移焦點了~囧rz
不行不行~俺要振作~要向文章裡說的"鑑賞家"看齊!
2008-04-30 @ 01:55
迴響 from: 歐巴 [訪問者] · http://cindy541.blogspot.com/
沒人覺得塗奶油的小姐有鬥雞眼嗎
而且那個好像不是奶油
是沙拉醬的樣子

我太認真了ˊˋ
2008-04-30 @ 02:00
迴響 from: 凱西 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/vn505337
我哭了...
2008-04-30 @ 02:01
迴響 from: apsras [訪問者]
每次看到這些老兵,多麼希望有人能把它們的過去點滴整理起來

它們生來如草芥,隨著整個大環境擺弄人生,它們見證了一個現代無法想像的過去

朱老大~來寫個史吧~稱老人家有力氣說話的時候,把它們的過去留下記錄,為這些老兵所犧牲的一切留下回憶

2008-04-30 @ 02:02
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
沒了安國,克保也不曉人生在那裡了----
我感覺他們走回去那段很感傷、但也很欣然,
內心不忍分離的拉扯,然後是下定決心之後的平靜
已經要離開了,最後知道留下來是最想要的選擇

寧願在陌生的地方也要陪著摯愛
2008-04-30 @ 02:07
迴響 from: CornGuo [訪問者] · http://cornguo.twbbs.org/
嗯.. 這些東西是從網路上撿到的,我什麼都不知道 (炸)

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是說.. 我小時候看過異域這部電影,
只記得看完之後哭得亂七八糟的..

不過劇情我真的忘得差不多了 Orz

看到後面那段講演的文章,
發現自己也有需要改進的部份,
跟這篇文章真是相見恨晚啊!
2008-04-30 @ 02:11
迴響 from: Z.M. [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/zong-ming/
忽然感覺
是我們的教育(也等同於文化)出了問題

1.學校教育 過於重智育 與填鴨式教學 沒有預留思考空間
2.家庭教育 父母過度保護與過度干預孩子的決定
3.社會教育 政治人物 媒體使用者 人與人之間 民主與教養不足

主阿
寬容我們 我們並不知道 囧rz
2008-04-30 @ 02:16
迴響 from: matt [訪問者]
以史為鑑......嗎?
只是, 著史者, 也是中國人......
在中國, 歷史是為皇室服務的

-- 又一個胸奴人
2008-04-30 @ 02:34
迴響 from: 番薯 [訪問者]
19:30 補充聲明:謝謝大家的支持,請大家不要將問題模糊及擴大,留言時也請注意用詞,謝謝!

大家好:

我是站長 sega。

在此跟各位報告巴哈姆特此時正遭受的威脅:
27日(日)晚上10:00,機房人員來電通知巴哈首頁伺服器當機,原本以為只是一般的當機,沒想到伺服器重開之後,短短幾秒之內,又再度當機,再次重開之後,情況依舊。
後來經過關閉對外連線後查詢系統 log,發現遭受到來自世界各地的 ip,以極大量的速度對伺服器發出網頁要求試圖癱瘓巴哈首頁,伺服器不堪負荷,因此當機。

直到星期一清晨五點左右,攻勢才逐漸趨緩。

28日(一)下午一點,我們接到了一封信件:
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  寄件者: wuwebshell
  傳送日期: 2008-4-28 下午 01:00
  主旨: 广告联系

  昨天发动对贵公司的攻击,在此深表歉意,也说明贵公司的网络安全的当务之急,本人做私人服务器的,能否到贵站发布广告,请速回mail。谢谢
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我們終於知道被攻擊的原因。

到了下午2:00~3:00左右,我們發現伺服器又開始遭到強烈的攻擊,同時,在這個時候,我們接到了一通來自大陸的電話,對方表示他們就是攻擊的發動者,他們的目的很簡單,就是希望可以在巴哈下廣告宣傳他們的《魔獸世界》私服,希望透過巴哈創造雙方的最大利益。我們表明立場不會接這樣的廣告,對方說給我們一些時間討論,暫時不會再攻擊我們,電話掛掉不久後,攻擊就停止了。

到了傍晚左右,我們發現攻擊又開始變強,經過了許多努力,還是抵擋不住來自世界各位高達數千台電腦,以每秒數百次的次數攻擊,伺服器再次癱瘓。

這段期間,我們不斷調整系統,同時也尋求各方的協助,包括與友站遊戲基地的人討論,希望能抵擋住這樣的癱瘓攻擊,但是我們失敗了,只能在今天(二)清晨5:00左右攻擊再度變緩時,才勉強讓伺服器運作。

今天上午,我們發現攻擊又開始變強,伺服器再度癱瘓,於是決定告訴大家目前的狀況,讓大家知道現在巴哈姆特的狀況。

對於該大陸不法商人的囂張行徑我們感到非常不可思議。
同時也要跟所有巴哈的支持者表達歉意,我們沒有辦法防禦住這樣的攻擊,導致巴哈的首頁持續癱瘓。我們會繼續努力,但是目前束手無策。我相信這會是一場艱苦且漫長的戰役,我不敢去想像最壞的情況會是什麼,但是,請大家給我們最大的支持....

讓我們一起召喚巴哈姆特 !

sega

19:30 補充聲明:謝謝大家的支持,請大家不要將問題模糊及擴大,留言時也請注意用詞,謝謝!
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閒閒沒事看完柏楊後又看到這篇
老實講我沒有能力分辨是否是芭樂~
我只知道我連不進去巴哈...

關於柏楊的文章心得是...
得知巴哈被攻擊的新聞後,柏楊的文章的感動效果瞬間消失...
我不在乎到底台灣人中國人大陸人還是華人....等
我只知道只要有利益可循,有血緣關係的也可以成為敵人
就降
2008-04-30 @ 03:24
迴響 from: Blue [訪問者]
柏楊先生,快哉斯文!!

不過我還是要說,我是胸奴人!!胸!奴!人! 胸!奴!人! 胸!奴!人!
2008-04-30 @ 05:22
迴響 from: Blue [訪問者]
順帶一提,査本名翻出當事人學經歷現況的阿宅病呢!?

當我們最需要阿宅的時候,阿宅都在哪裡!?
2008-04-30 @ 05:25
迴響 from: 救世主 [訪問者]
太好了~
內容介紹得很詳細
原來 柏楊來過東海
2008-04-30 @ 05:35
迴響 from: 機車妹 [訪問者]
比起大陸同學
台灣同學更少 但更不團結
大陸同學刻苦又互相幫忙
柏楊先生真是一個有勇氣的人
現在有勇氣的人已經所剩無幾了
一個這麼聰明的民族被別人看不起
被打壓
真的很氣

2008-04-30 @ 05:54
迴響 from: Simon [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/intela76
柏楊不愧是反骨,文字力道非常厚實,也非常懇切和命中要害,人們口口聲聲說台灣人台灣人,最後很可悲的脫不出柏楊所說「醜陋中國人」的範疇。
2008-04-30 @ 06:35
迴響 from: zuyan [訪問者] · http://maru.gates.tw/
今天正妹停刊一次,以示哀悼...

看到這裡....
人永遠是醜陋的..
只因為我不帥

世上沒有烏托邦..
只因..我家還很亂
2008-04-30 @ 07:31
迴響 from: BirdinForrest [訪問者]
悼念柏楊先生。
很慚愧,從中學起就被先生的作品影響,然而一直沒有注意關心過先生的近況。如果不是今天無意間看到這篇文章,可能還要幾天后才知道先生已經去世了。
先生的作品影響了兩岸三地的中國人,播下了種子,可以安心的去了。
2008-04-30 @ 08:14
迴響 from: fauzty [訪問者] · http://blog.roodo.com/fauzty
「哪一代才好起來?」
「就在我們這一代了啊!」
如果更多人有這樣的決心,
我相信世界是可以有所改變的。
2008-04-30 @ 08:20
迴響 from: BirdinForrest [訪問者]
其實,說道劣根性,任何民族基于自己的文化,或多或少都有缺點。
我們中國人也不必妄自菲薄,畢竟能看到自己的缺點是好事,歷史還很長,從我們的先輩到我們這一代,在從我們這一代到我們的后代,大家都在慢慢的向前走。
2008-04-30 @ 08:21
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
>讓我們一起召喚巴哈姆特 !

還不簡單

只要巴哈公告該私服IP

巴哈神人那麼多

看看它可以crash多久

違法的東西還那麼囂張
2008-04-30 @ 08:22
迴響 from: 帝力于我何有哉 [訪問者]
奇怪了 平白無故把人弄哭對你有什麼好處阿
2008-04-30 @ 08:37
迴響 from: chuck [訪問者]
文章真長..現在小朋友如果超一千字太概就看不下去了
不過..好文還是要推
2008-04-30 @ 08:58
迴響 from: simon [訪問者]
天啊,明明是懷念柏老的一篇好文…
怎麼討論串到後面全部都走樣了,
難道這也是宅氣使然??
2008-04-30 @ 09:31
迴響 from: kuroro [訪問者]
ㄜ 正義凜然柏楊 最後還是輸給假奶台妹了

宅神說得正妹者得天下 這個說法是錯的 應該說 得天下者得正妹

屁話一堆 又回到老蔣說的:生命的意義在創造宇宙繼起之生命

科學證明男人愛正妹 不完全是賞心悅目 其實正妹生的小孩基因比較好 @@ 所以 鐵人(楊傳廣)一死無人問 正妹(許瑋倫)一死天下哀
2008-04-30 @ 10:10
迴響 from: 伊森晃 [訪問者] · http://ethan-cc-huang.blogspot.com/
我也是小時候就看過醜陋一書…但是李敖對柏陽的評價似乎不高…
2008-04-30 @ 10:52
迴響 from: kururu mk2 [訪問者]
生物 物種殘酷的一面 人類藍星人只不過是把他 放大出來

([@///@]) 哀 哀 哀 ...............
2008-04-30 @ 11:16
迴響 from: shelandy [訪問者] · http://shelandy.blogspot.com/
在一整個推崇柏楊的讚美聲中
我反而要推崇朱大寫的
"我看到尤其是倒數第二段的總統大選那一段,二十四年之後的台灣政治局勢,還是一樣真他媽的貼切!"

在早期世面見得不夠時,我對鄧克保的景仰就跟各位一樣山高水常
到了後來見他對新執政黨種種倒行逆施,只能跟舊執政黨的教育部長朱匯森一樣在那老淚縱橫,從此一整個就給他瞧不起。

不知怎麼搞的,想到了那個年少"引刀逞一快"卻沒死的汪精衛,這就是人參啊.................
2008-04-30 @ 11:50
迴響 from: 碎棉布族 [訪問者]
讓我想起了陳獨秀曾經說過

陳獨秀說:「愛國大部分是感情的產物,理性不過佔一小部份,有時不合乎理性。」「惡人利用他可以外而壓迫異族,內而壓迫人民。」「我們愛的國家是為人民謀幸福的國家,不是人民為國家作犧牲的國家」一九一九年六月八日《每周評論》
2008-04-30 @ 11:55
迴響 from: 瓜 [訪問者]
最近的某個活動倒是有點呼應到

只因為家樂福來自法國,而聖火在法國傳遞困難
內地一堆網友就被慫踴抵制家樂福...

結果誰倒霉?
裏頭工作的員工同胞,
還有本來只要花5毛買的東西卻為了鬥一個完全無關的組織而要改花1塊去買的人民...

會鬥不會想。

不過臺灣前陣子兩黨情勢也沒好到哪裏去..





2008-04-30 @ 12:16
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
一堆可恥的胸奴人!(鞭---)

另:
  生活在台灣,幾人有資格批評別人短視。
  一個小Case,如蒼蠅撲大便;
  哪裡有商機,不管懂不懂有一資本就往哪裡鑽;
  選組選系選校,不管為了理想還是為了發展理工一走還是覺得比較有安全感;
  學生在校時批判社會的世儈,一畢業每個人都拿數字在算;
  一個月不到三萬留不住新人,跳槽也是看薪資;
  精打細算生活沒有理想,補習班一蹲都往國考鑽;
  據聞年薪百萬才夠格稱之為社會菁英,詐騙集團走在路上也能搖擺。

  每月一樣為了過生活,每月一樣想看幾場電影,
  每月一樣想吃幾次美食,每月一樣想看買幾件衣服,
  每月一樣想載家人或女友出門晃晃...

  打開帳單,
  又是一堆頻頻上漲的水電瓦斯消費;
  車貸房貸繳起來遙遙無期;
  怕東怕西又怕死幾張保險掛在身上;
  人家炒基金外幣就算後知後覺又沒做功課還是覺得沒買財富就會縮水;
  幾隻股票起起落落不管有賺沒賺心情也跟著顛簸起來;
  明知教育就是投資孩子想學才藝鈔票捏著還是那樣猶豫半天...

  ...
  ......
  
  憤世嫉俗,
  夠格嗎,夠格嗎,你夠格嗎。
 
2008-04-30 @ 12:20
迴響 from: 酸咖啡 [訪問者] · http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/espressoli/
總覺得這醜陋中國人這病毒是一整個悲哀
柏楊さんの二つ名は…「絶望叫喚(ブラッディアビス)」です 

酸咖啡
2008-04-30 @ 12:24
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
我......我......我......沒有理想.......

目白兄,你一刀劈中我了。
2008-04-30 @ 12:26
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
我也中槍了 =_=
一個沒有理想的人
2008-04-30 @ 12:40
迴響 from: 正咩....??? [訪問者]
用朱大的說話方式來講這篇演講...
我可能會更有興趣看...
不過話雖如此...
我還是花了一個早上的時間....
斷斷續續的把柏楊的演講看完了...

這就是中國人..醜陋的中國人..
猜不透...看不清...
內鬥體系下說真話的人...
等著去死吧!!!

2008-04-30 @ 12:46
迴響 from: 黑暗叡智 [訪問者] · http://forum.gamer.com.tw
生逢亂世
一代風雲人物離去

彼岸無憂
2008-04-30 @ 12:49
迴響 from: 原本出於好奇 [訪問者]
謝謝你跟大家分享這篇文章
狠可惜我是今天才認識到柏楊這樣一位有前瞻性的作家
因為不是生在那個年代 這方面的文學都市近期才有接觸
不過 同樣是受到一半東方 一半西方的文化洗禮
在還沒有讀到這篇文章之前
我每天上班 接觸到各種形形色色的 "華人"
心裡想的也都是一樣的感嘆
為什麼中國人與中國人(包括香港, 台灣, 新馬華裔)之間的爾虞我詐
會是這麼的根深蒂固 理都不是理 誰比較大聲 尖銳 強勢 誰就有理
跟其他美國同事比較起來 鬥爭歸鬥爭 理虧了就低頭認錯的做法
簡直就是天壤之別
老闆經常問我 這真是文化的問題嗎?
我以前狠遲鈍 不會往這種方向多想
他總是決得跟我們中國人溝通起來
都不知道話到底聽進去了沒有 因為總是給人感覺表裡不一
我想我得找找這篇文章的英文版
要不就是直接翻譯給他看
因為這幾年職場上讓我看到的中國人真的就是這樣 我找不到更好的方式來形容了
我經常在工作上最大的一個抱怨就是
有時候自己都為身為一個中國人/台灣人感到丟臉
法律漏洞鑽的大氣都不喘一下的
總是有那些認為同是中國人/台灣人就有個不須明說的共識
每天的工作 總是會有些大大小小的東西方文化衝擊在我的腦中上演
我小時後所受的東方教育 教的是規矩跟服從 there was never such thing called "thinking outside the box"
就算後來的西方教育多多少少在某些層面上達到改變我的想法
舊的教育要改 狠難 真的很難
就像柏楊說的
大環境是如此
生活在環境中的我們 必定會耳濡目染

真的非常謝謝你的分享 受益良多 可以寫的迴響有太多了
怕我寫的沒完沒了 文筆又不好 表達不出什麼 所以就此打住
一定將你的這篇推薦給所有我認識的人
2008-04-30 @ 12:54
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
只插個嘴:「台灣的魯迅」通常會是指賴和,而不會是指柏楊先生。
2008-04-30 @ 13:36
迴響 from: RR [訪問者] · http://roseroo.spaces.live.com/
這篇文章,如果給大陸糞青與台毒糞青看,不知他們會不會有相見恨晚的感覺......
2008-04-30 @ 13:52
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
迴響來自: RR [訪問者] · http://roseroo.spaces.live.com/
這篇文章,如果給大陸糞青與台毒糞青看,不知他們會不會有相見恨晚的感覺......
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不一定會
但是肯定會截取裡面對他們有利的片段拿去正名他們的行為
so~我還在家吃自己~
求生存中~只為了證明自己的夢想能夠實現
2008-04-30 @ 14:07
迴響 from: Richard [訪問者] · http://ladyous.blogspot.com/
耶穌臨死的時候說:「寬容他們,他們做的他們不知道。」年輕時候讀這句話,覺得稀鬆平常,長大之後,也覺得這句話沒有力量。但是到了我現在這個年齡,才發現這句話多麼深奧,多麼痛心。使我想到我們中國人,成了今天這個樣子,我們的醜陋,來自於我們不知道我們醜陋。

真的很難過,而且把中國人套換成台灣人也是一樣的
感覺到有些人只是想換個TITLE,就以為人品等級昇華了
從整個社會文化來看,其實還是如此的低落

謝謝朱大分享這樣的文章,感動、反思、慚愧
2008-04-30 @ 15:14
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
查了維基...

賴和
他的同輩楊守愚說他是「台灣新文藝園地的開墾者」與「台灣小說界的褓母」,並在「光復慶祝後二日」一文中讚揚他為「台灣的魯迅」。
柏楊
另一個筆名則是鄧克保,台灣作家,中華民國總統府資政,被稱為臺灣的魯迅。

但是,他沒說那是誰說的...

台灣的魯迅,不能有二個嗎?
........................ 疑惑?

應該是不行,這樣基測的考題若是兩個都有就要送分了!
:P

2008-04-30 @ 16:21
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/

待會兒去游泳
不知能不能碰到正妹 ???
2008-04-30 @ 17:16
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]

難得少見的認真文又出現了
雖然內容很中肯
但是我的注意力卻還是放在最後一個連結上了= =
2008-04-30 @ 17:21
迴響 from: cyber runner [訪問者] · http://orz18.blogspot.com
柏陽辭世
哀悼...

奶油..
誰來當那隻小狗去把他舔光光啦
...
2008-04-30 @ 17:34
迴響 from: 阿彭 [訪問者]
很感動,也很感慨。
柏楊這位作家/思想家,我只有聽過,我沒看過他的任何作品--慚愧
但是我現在很想去看,不知道現在哪裡還可以找的到。
2008-04-30 @ 19:39
迴響 from: 迷思羊 [訪問者]
時代不同
似乎也改變不了什麼
內心的深沉感動
卻是放諸四海皆準

樹大招風也是個劣根性
劣的是招來的那陣風
樹本身何辜呢
巴哈姆特~加油
2008-04-30 @ 19:40
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
阿宅為PSP祈禱文:

上帝呀,我是這麼樣一個好阿宅,你為什麼要讓我特別帶來上海消磨時間的PSP一路好端端的和我相處,卻就在Check In 之後回來發現LCD破掉了呢?

而且這台還改過機了(代表保固已經完蛋了),為什麼你要這樣對待一個好阿宅呢?

為什麼為什麼~~~~

Lucifer

接下來我還要在上海待四天,而我沒有帶NDS呀!
2008-04-30 @ 22:02
迴響 from: 少年禿之揪泥!!旁邊的揪咪 [訪問者]
這部片我看過
主題曲
亞細亞的孤兒....
聽了真的很動人耶
2008-04-30 @ 22:42
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
可以買奶油來舔啊!!
to 包子:朱大跟誰解釋好像也不太重要吧~.~
重要的是麻煩朱大拍點好看照片(胸奴人極需)回來才是正事。
2008-04-30 @ 22:45
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
樓上的叫你男友趕快考上研究所啦!

不好意思,這是我以前教書時的學生出來灌水....^_^

Lucifer
2008-04-30 @ 22:46
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
蔣經國執意要把柏楊打入綠島天牢的時候
馬英九還只是思想純正的建中香港僑生
柏楊因為美國議員的強烈干涉蔣政權內政
始能釋放回台灣本島 此時馬英九已經有美國永久居留權
教主放來不及參與陷害忠良的蔣經國秘書馬英九探訪柏楊的照片
真是歷史諷刺 教主拍馬屁真是拍過頭了
馬英九明年要去頭寮謁陵不知道要不要噙著淚報告故總統 他去探訪郭衣洞
還是....蔣經國沒問 馬英九就不說........


2008-04-30 @ 22:54
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
即使只要一兩百元,這幾百位老兵就可以勉強生存下去,但國民黨的榮譽主席連戰去大陸拜訪時,卻從來沒有想起有這麼一群人,從來沒想到讓他兒子連勝文少吃幾碗飯(咳咳),讓他的金孫少換幾條高檔尿布,就可以讓幾個當年國民黨的忠誠老兵活下去。
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異域孤軍跟連戰父子何干?
教主 你還是寫軟性話題比較好

2008-04-30 @ 22:59
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
果然署名有個老字的都是傻蛋。

這些人都是國民黨的啦!笨蛋~~~

Lucifer

幹政治文愛好者有沒有智商比蛆高的啦!怎麼看到現在都覺得沒有!
2008-04-30 @ 23:08
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/

游泳了三個小時 =_=
一個正妹也沒有
只一個大叔跟老太婆 ==
天啊!!!
我只是想要一個又美麗又健康的女生當我女朋友
但是為什麼現在我還是一根光棍 =_=
雖然我眼中的美麗或許有點高 =_=
2008-04-30 @ 23:27
迴響 from: 紅葉 [訪問者] · http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/redyeh
to martian

在網上查了有關台灣的魯迅的資料,發現賴和和柏楊雙方的比例其實差不多高,但是我覺得賴和在文學上的成就可能比較適合這個稱號。不過對我來說,不論是郭衣洞或是鄧克保,柏楊永遠就是柏楊而已。
2008-04-30 @ 23:43
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]

即使有正妹也只能遠觀而不可褻玩焉
女朋友是不可強求的......
2008-04-30 @ 23:46
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"我只是想要一個又美麗又健康的女生當我女朋友"

...
......

俺也很希望中個樂透什麼的,最好到死之前不要生病,能安心的壽終正寢,然後世界和平...
2008-04-30 @ 23:50
迴響 from: priest66 [訪問者]
這篇超級棒的

今天才和同學
討論分組時的事
分組討論
常常都是窩裡反
不是打死別人 就是自以為是的成全他人
誰也不聽誰的
討論出來的東西都是屁

挨 自卑又自傲 真的自卑又自傲
2008-05-01 @ 00:09
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]

這篇文章拿來自省效果會正向一點...
即使拿來當成檢討別人的罵本實在好用,
一樣千錯萬錯都不是我的錯.
2008-05-01 @ 00:16
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我錯了,我是一個胸奴人!(←自省)

Lucifer

隨著年歲漸長,這句話是這樣演變的:

「我只是想要一個又美麗又健康的女生當我女朋友」

「我只是想要一個健康的女生當我女朋友」

「我只是想要一個女生當我女朋友」

「我只是想要一個女朋友」

「我只是想要」

「我只是想」

「我」

太可悲了!
2008-05-01 @ 00:28
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]

哎~

我只是想要一個又美麗又健康的女生當我女朋友...

我終於知道我交不到男朋友的原因了!!!
原來是因為我美麗的不夠健康呀~
...嘆息...
2008-05-01 @ 00:29
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
(一陣悲風吹過)

好冷阿,阿母...
2008-05-01 @ 00:31
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
咦~火星人不是已經有男朋友了嗎?
到底是為甚麼我有這種錯覺?
還是說你缺的是地球的男朋友?
2008-05-01 @ 00:33
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"我錯了,我是一個胸奴人!"

知道錯了就好!知道錯了就好......(拭淚)
2008-05-01 @ 00:33
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
TO...紅葉

我想起...阿宅都是富實驗精神~
還有.....阿宅具有追根究裏的精神~
這二句話...

對一個要考試的人而言...
""事實""是什麼,跟..."標準答案"是甚麼比較起來...事實一點都不重要...
.................... 這也是一種可悲...我想知道事實!

打開新聞,大家下的標題都是"台灣魯迅"...
今天忘了問國文老師了...
我明天請助教幫我問問問...看看老師的觀點是什麼...
:)

2008-05-01 @ 00:35
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
為了要回答地球人的問題...
我很認真的看了所以之前的留言...(當然是假的)
證明,我沒說我現在有男朋友...
:P

為什麼你會認為我有男朋友?

我要是有男朋友...
我還在這裡鬼混什麼.............悲從中來~

我要是有男朋友...
我就不會耗召正妹一起圍攻朱大要近距離接近他或是拍他裸照了!


還有,
男人,就是男人...
我來地球二十幾年了~
我在火星若是有男朋友...
他也一定變節了!
:(
天底下沒有男人的貞節牌坊...這回事啦!
嗚........淚奔...
2008-05-01 @ 00:42
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
樓上幾個人這樣問來問去好害羞喔,我可不可以推兩人在一起?

Lucifer

在一起~~~在一起~~~在一起~~~
2008-05-01 @ 00:45
迴響 from: priest66 [訪問者]
我有自省拉
因為我也是討論小組的一員阿
脫不了關係
我就是成就別人的那種人
說起來也毫無自尊可言
2008-05-01 @ 00:52
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
樓上的叫你男友趕快考上研究所啦!

不好意思,這是我以前教書時的學生出來灌水....^_^

Lucifer
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朱大,我是男生耶@@
你會不會因為沒有帶NDS,所以怪怪的,還是我看不懂你要表達什...
2008-05-01 @ 00:53
迴響 from: priest66 [訪問者]
我有自省拉
因為我也是討論小組的一員阿
脫不了關係
我就是成就別人的那種人
說起來也毫無自尊可言
2008-05-01 @ 00:55
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
左顧右盼....

誰?是誰?誰在做害羞的事?

朱老大...
沒有什麼比號招正妹近距離包圍裸體的你更讓人害羞的事了!

..................................................攤手...

不過...
這個願望看來是沒機會實現了~
...................................... 垂頭喪氣...
2008-05-01 @ 01:01
迴響 from: 永 [訪問者]
說真的,PSP改機沒有過保
(因為還改得回來XD)
LCD破掉倒是真的要錢
我有破過,2800大洋

可惡,那是第一批日本製,夏普面板
啊...........................
2008-05-01 @ 01:05
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"我就是成就別人的那種人
說起來也毫無自尊可言"
有期待,就有得失,有得失就有煩惱。
"期待"扔掉啥事都沒了~(臍帶血則留著好)
2008-05-01 @ 01:06
迴響 from: priest66 [訪問者]
2008-05-01 @ 01:07
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
為什麼本人女友是B-CUP--------------
WHY~~~~~~~~~~~!!!
TELL ME WHY---------!!!

(害俺都不敢承認自己也是胸奴人---)
2008-05-01 @ 01:10
迴響 from: Lin_0093 [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/win0083
在一起~~~!
在一起~~~!
在一起~~~!
在一起~~~!
在一起~~~!
在一起~~~!
在一起~~~!
2008-05-01 @ 01:19
喂,我家還有個 a cup 的哩...

胸奴未滅,何以家為!
2008-05-01 @ 01:20
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
給 李目白大人...

遙想當年...我也有B CUP的時候呀!

可以問...她貴庚嗎? 還沒30吧!

胸部要長大,不是不可能的事~
我自己就是這樣過來的~

不要失望啦!!!
還有的救~
只是要看她願不願意而已...
辛苦一些...
你幫她按摩穴道呀~
順便增進彼此生活情趣...

2008-05-01 @ 01:20
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
俺都對她說你來不及了哈哈...<-阿宅總是很誠實.
2008-05-01 @ 01:27
迴響 from: cchien [訪問者] · http://blog.pixnet.net/cchien

異域這部片真的相當感人
有機會真的應該把原著買來看看
記得我老爹是去錄影帶租這部片子回來看
當時演到劉德華抓到一個緬共
那個緬共講了一串緬甸話之後
華仔很帥氣的一槍就把他斃了
我問老爹那個緬共到底講了什麼話
(因為沒有翻譯那段話的字幕)
我老爹因為是從緬甸來的華僑(Yes...所以我可以說是緬甸華僑第二代)
所以他聽的懂那句話:

拜託不要殺我...拜託不要殺我...

(迸~~)==>下去領便當~

說實在那一幕是我對異域印象最深刻的一幕
除了家庭背景多少跟緬甸有點關係以外
我母親那方的家人也曾經在當年緬甸軍政府要掃蕩緬共所引發的排華運動中受到波及
只能說那真的是時代華人的悲劇
也反應出現在我們過的日子真的很幸福

希望永遠也不要有戰爭......

最後,國民黨真的應該要想個辦法給那些還留在泰緬邊境的國民黨老兵一點關照
這種事情拖了幾十年了真的應該解決
2008-05-01 @ 01:32
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
Demon:

有種就把這句"胸奴未滅,何以家為!"寫給尊夫人看.
2008-05-01 @ 01:33
如果想變得比較不醜陋一點,請服用以下兩味:

1.衣食足而後知榮辱 → 若在貧窮線下、饑餓邊緣,則不擇手段、生存第一也

2.教育可以變化氣質 → 有錢不能變化氣質,有錢的中國人醜陋依然也(例如王又曾)...但若是只知道不擇手段爭奪第一名,則又成為醜陋的中國人了也

2008-05-01 @ 01:35
目白兄,

我承認我沒種,我不想自殺呀...
2008-05-01 @ 01:38
迴響 from: 苦行 [訪問者]
讓我想起一句在港漫洪武大帝裡的一句,大略意思是:漢人,外鬥外行,內鬥內行

實話總是傷人,但實話不能不說,所以.....


正妹月不是無期限嗎?

怎麼什麼胸奴人的都跑出來了....
.........
...
.
胸奴人+1(死)
2008-05-01 @ 01:39
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
拍錯馬屁 小沙彌念經的教主啊
這個有關蘇州大學限制言論自由的新聞真是極大諷刺
柏楊死不瞑目啊
阿宅的宿命看超大畫面的正妹 無腦說別人傻蛋?
我不相信 我不相信
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大學教授當名嘴 東吳要管制
民視 更新日期:2008/04/30 17:59

政論節目中,不少大學教授是常客,不過東吳大學的校務會議將提案,部分教授參加政論節目,發表言論造成校友反應不佳,甚至可能損害校譽,東吳因此研議,限制教授上節目前不但要報備,而且最多一個月只能上四次。

可能會被限制的包括常上政論節目的羅致政、徐永明、林建隆還有8月即將回德文系的謝志偉,徐永明說,根本就是即將上任閣揆的劉兆玄,在壓迫言論自由,即將卸下新聞局長的謝志偉說,回東吳後還是堅持繼續開講。

目前全國的大專院校,東吳是第一個在校務會議中,研擬限制教授發表政治言論的學校,是不是箝制了言論自由?就看東吳的校方,要怎麼對外界解釋了。(民視新聞綜合報導)


2008-05-01 @ 01:58
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
大家都不用睡覺嗎?
勞動節明明沒放假~
要早起的我要去睡了,晚安!
n_n...
2008-05-01 @ 02:02
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
正妹如此養眼
柏楊顯得遙遠
結果是小沙彌念經
有口無心(泣)

阿宅們要培養檢驗能力啊
老衲為了救阿宅
扮黑臉檢驗某人
就如同某人檢驗林教授(我肯定某人的作為)
台灣未來就靠阿宅了
繼續加油 願宅力與我們同在
2008-05-01 @ 02:11
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
迴響來自: 李目白 [訪問者]
"我錯了,我是一個胸奴人!"

知道錯了就好!知道錯了就好......(拭淚)
2008-05-01 @ 00:33

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每次目白兄的留言...
都很有畫面餒...(拍手)
2008-05-01 @ 02:49
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
我要是有男朋友...
我還在這裡鬼混什麼.............悲從中來~

我要是有男朋友...
我就不會耗召正妹一起圍攻朱大要近距離接近他或是拍他裸照了!

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所以說...
該是我離開的時候了嗎?(淚眼)
2008-05-01 @ 02:51
迴響 from: 流浪小米 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/max9797
一九八四年的作品怎麼感覺像是2008年4月30日(昨天)寫的一樣勒?

可見這不是一天兩天的問題....過了24年我們中國人的問題還是沒變...

我沒看過柏楊"醜陋的中國人"這本書~
但很多年前我就感覺到~會照成我們中國人這個境地的~
是因為"儒家思想"

不相信大家看看亞洲儒家毒化越深的國家~現在的下場是如何~
越南~韓國都是~都一個鳥樣!

和朱大要個這篇的引用~謝了~
2008-05-01 @ 02:54
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
我做個背景介紹好啦
看到阿宅的回覆內容 真的....點點點
柏楊在沒有被打入大牢之前
只是一個跟教主一樣 有才氣愛耍嘴皮的作家
如果用現代的說法就是意識形態
與黨政軍特一把抓的國民黨當局格格不入
教主與柏楊都是喜歡譁眾取寵的才子
為何同樣是譁眾取寵 卻有兩種不同結果
阿宅自己可得想一想 (感謝一下台灣總統吧)
事實上柏楊被抓去關 事前毫無徵兆
連柏楊也沒意識到譁眾取寵的代價如此巨大
當年柏楊對人權 民主制度比一般人有概念 算是自由派思想
雜文批評時敝依循著中國五四運動的批判精神
時隔五十年距離千里之遙的台灣 自由思想還是不見容於"中國"政權(一中各表個鳥 都是一個鳥樣啦)
柏楊真的意識到人權問題 還是被關出來以後的事情了
教主沒被關過黑牢 不懂人權 所以貼出馬英九探視瀕危的柏老照片
老衲看了 唉 深嘆一口氣 真是歷史諷刺
當年執意要關柏老的就是蔣經國--馬英九每年謁陵的對象
好巧不巧 這兩天蘇州大學要限制諸名嘴教授上電視評論政治的新聞

私立大學要限制員工言行 沒問題
那麼以後就不要再拿政府補助
這套邏輯是從教主批評林教授那邊學來 反推回去也可以成立
所以蘇州大學校方的決議是有爭議性的 甚至是違憲喔
教主對此不置一辭
奇哉 怪哉
違憲與林教授慷公家資源之慨
孰輕孰重

阿宅們真的要加油啊






2008-05-01 @ 02:55
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]

そんなこといや!!
いやです!!
絕對にいや!!!!
2008-05-01 @ 03:04
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
醜陋的中國人這本書是站在厚黑學與阿Q正傳兩大巨人的肩頭上
柏楊批判中國人的論點只是54運動的遺緒 以現在看 算是舊思維了
政治制度改變人性民族性 從兩岸的差異性就看得出來
柏老晚年專注史書與人權事務 就可以看出柏老早已超越自我
阿宅不要再追逐大師的唾沫
何不關注蘇州大學以工作權要脅限制教授言論自由的違憲惡行呢
勿再捨本逐末了
有檢驗能力的阿宅絕對可以救台灣
2008-05-01 @ 03:06
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]

朱大救台灣~~
2008-05-01 @ 03:18
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
思念是一種...很玄的東西...
如影....隨形...
2008-05-01 @ 03:40
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"柏楊批判中國人的論點只是54運動的遺緒 以現在看 算是舊思維了"

  其他部分OK,這部份俺肯定你,如同本人岸上一本民國59年翻譯的性心理學理論,在今日看來仍深具參考價值.

  以本人當前的認知(當然,自己得承認接觸的人事物總是不夠多,難除瞎子摸象之嫌,但判斷並非由考古扒糞而來,也許有些人會覺得這部分重要無比,這部份俺反而無法理解)

  俺的結論是:

  柏楊的那篇演講,部份內容,仍適用,並不只是台灣的問題,內地亦如是,以當前兩岸的文化差異,雙方都在互相誤解中摸索(諷刺的是,會造成誤解的始作庸者盡是傳媒<-兩岸皆然)從歷史演進要對柏楊的結論作批判,即缺少當下存有說服力的事證。

  之所以說部份適用,只因本人的體認根本不到那裡,所以只好自取所需,留著當作罵本的材料。俺也相信文章的感動只是一時,膜拜也是一時,"利用他者"能做到什麼程度,本是個人修行的問題。

  至於"關注蘇州大學以工作權要脅限制教授言論自由的違憲惡行呢"本人反而無法下判斷。造成無法判斷其中一個有趣的原因是:

  "俺認識現在的大學生與研究生"

另一個原因則更妙:

  "台灣神奇的學術中立原則?"

另:
  本身對內地六七年級一輩看好(即使無法預測的是他們的優秀學生被爭取入黨後到底能幹麻?),對台灣反而看衰。
  "理想性"是關鍵。

  
2008-05-01 @ 03:47
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
修正上文第一行:
<其他部分OK,這部份俺"不敢"肯定你,如同本人"案上"一本民國59年翻譯的性心理學理論,在今日看來仍深具參考價值.>
2008-05-01 @ 03:49
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
包子姐姐加油,撐過去~~
等妳出關吶
2008-05-01 @ 04:41
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
呵呵,上天對好阿宅還是很好的,
上天關了一扇門會再開起另一扇窗吧
關在飯店多氣悶啊!
上海的夜生活不好嗎?百樂門呢?
還是去瞧瞧張愛玲的公寓?
去搭上海地鐵?
上海有啥我也不知道,但看看人也很有趣啊!
有人說上海人對於身為上海人很是驕傲呢
別為您的PSP難過啦~

(朱大,您帶PSP去旅行,把NDS孤伶伶留在家,砸了PSP才想起她--)

2008-05-01 @ 05:22
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
還有朱大,您說阿宅不可以太容易被預測,
所以您說在上海待四天
阿宅們不會輕易上當的!!!
阿宅們都知道~~
2008-05-01 @ 05:55
迴響 from: KhAoS [訪問者]
寫的好中肯, 一句話, 一針見血, 看了也好心痛..

這麼好的文章, 可以讓我轉來讓其他人看見嗎?
2008-05-01 @ 07:46
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
那個Childman誰叫你在我發文時插隊,我說的是你頭上的啦!

至於那個東吳大學,我還可以告訴你,他們拿卓越教學計畫的補助是全國所有學校裡面最多的呢!

不過我為啥要幫這些賺得盆滿缽滿的教授說話?老兵沒飯吃沒衣穿,年輕的農民收入僅能餬口,連女友都交不到;跟腦滿腸肥的教授不能賺外快,你說哪個重要?

那林一平不是也很可憐?幫學生說話還要被罵,那我是不是該多多同情他?呿~~~

等我幫這些既得利益者說話,幹,下輩子吧科科科~~~~

就說政治文愛好者只看立場不看對方地位,要說可憐怎麼輪的到這些人?所以本人一向支持教授評鑑制度公開、從嚴!這樣才能淘汰那些不專注本業,坐領高薪的學術蛆蛆(蠕動)~~~

Lucifer

兩位要轉載都請自便嚕,請記得註明出處和原作者哈哈~~~
2008-05-01 @ 08:16
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
今天早上看到的新聞(只有利用早上出門前看一點點),話說某位游姓教授(大概吧,但是確定姓游),在某校開了課,教了一半不教了,因為要去選立委,選戰結束,又要回來教書,靠,把學生、教育當成什麼了?

記者去訪問他,他還大言不慚,毫無羞恥心的說,如果他選上了可以教導服務更多人民呀(之類的,沒注意聽,有錯,請指正)。
2008-05-01 @ 09:24
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
迴響來自: 李目白 [訪問者]
為什麼本人女友是B-CUP--------------
WHY~~~~~~~~~~~!!!
TELL ME WHY---------!!!
(害俺都不敢承認自己也是胸奴人---)
------------------------------------------------------------
to 李兄,若是女友是AB奶那該如何呢?
why~~~~~
tell me why?????????
不能怪我當胸奴人啊!
還是朱大又有妙招?來解決小弟的問題?
2008-05-01 @ 09:45
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
目白兄:
請把目光放遠,等她升級成老婆再升級成媽媽時(你也升級成爸爸時),她的CUP一定也會升級的!此時的重點就不是抱怨了,重點是如何持了。

childman小朋友:
AB奶喔,只有一個辦法,利用”還我漂漂拳”打腫她。
2008-05-01 @ 09:58
迴響 from: scharoun [訪問者]
早就聽過柏楊的大名及他的書,但從來沒有認真的想拿起來看過(異域是看過,但也久遠矣),在貴部落格上看到他的文章,頗有同感。
前面有些先進的回覆提到關於台灣的進步,造成兩岸的差距之類,當然台灣現在民主的進步是無庸置疑,我們到咖啡館也可以享受一下寧靜。但是正如同柏楊先生所述,有沒有該改進的呢?那有沒有道歉呢?是不是還在內鬥內行外鬥外行的不團結呢?是不是還在分族群呢?更別提明著喊愛台灣,私下幹破壞環境的那些人。如果從這個角度來說,我們和柏楊當初筆下“醜陋的中國人”有什麼進步呢?
2008-05-01 @ 09:58
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
爛鍵盤,有時按字會按不出來,少打一個字

重點是如何”維”持了。
2008-05-01 @ 10:05
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我最恨就是有女友的人給我亂貼炫耀文......

有女友還要抱怨,這樣可以嗎?科以嗎?

Lucifer

科科科~~~
2008-05-01 @ 10:05
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
難怪朱大你要改名為”虐殺”了。

專門”虐殺”貼炫耀文的人。


呵呵~~~~
2008-05-01 @ 10:21
迴響 from: 路過的 [訪問者]
不管是A還是B
如果周圍有肉
應該都可以用適當的手法"撥"進去
進而成C就D
不論是宅男不看的女人我最大
或是前陣子鬧出個小風波的討論版
其實都有討論"喬"奶的方法
如果真的是紙片人
那就想辦法增加點份量吧

身為胸奴人的阿宅
為了閃光~這樣的實驗精神一定要有的啊
可以增加閃光情趣又可以一償所望
何樂不為XDDDDD
2008-05-01 @ 10:29
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
身為一個把女性當神看的阿宅,經常注意相關報導和節目也是正常的。

因此隨時可以貼上相關的影片專題,也很自然吧?

Lucifer



不知道為什麼第二段收視高達好幾倍....

2008-05-01 @ 10:45
迴響 from: 路過的 [訪問者]
我也不懂為何要幫那些教授說話
固然限制他們上電視次數有可議之處
(例如連續144天在電視上都都沒罵髒話的話應該要多增加一次以資鼓勵)
可是~~~~~~~~

那麼多吃不飽的小孩
那麼多找不到閃光的正妹
那麼多被冷落拋棄在台灣的NDS
這些都需要我們關心的
對不對!對不對!(搖晃)
2008-05-01 @ 10:47
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
朱老大,你為何現在才PO啊!!!!!
一切都太晚了....(只能自我催眠...那是D奶那是D奶)
為了造福嗷嗷待哺尚未被騙的胸奴人,有沒有可以識破假爆奶的影片?
2008-05-01 @ 11:08
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
咳咳

那個目白兄

有個成語叫"欲擒故縱"的說

就算魚秀蓮老是說不喜歡這裡

還是一樣會來地

小心又要跪主機板了嘿
2008-05-01 @ 11:14
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
我知道為何第二段收視率那麼高了
因為有ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...ㄉㄨㄞ奶...
....還在自我催眠中
2008-05-01 @ 11:14
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
childman職業一定是英文老師,因為他最在意字母的問題~~~

D~~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-01 @ 11:17
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
>包子姐姐加油,撐過去~~
>等妳出關吶

這是傳說中的集氣嗎

科科科科
2008-05-01 @ 11:17
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
16歲(現在) - 「我只是想要一個又美麗又健康的女生當我女朋友」

26歲     - 「我只是想要一個健康的女生當我女朋友」

36歲     - 「我只是想要一個女生當我女朋友」

46歲     - 「我只是想要一個女朋友」

56歲     - 「我只是想要」

66歲     - 「我只是想」

76歲     - 「我」

啊!!!
人生真是…
2008-05-01 @ 11:17
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
childman:

你再怎麼自我催眠,也解決不了現實AB的問題呀!!

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2008-05-01 @ 11:19
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"我最恨就是有女友的人給我亂貼炫耀文......"

俺最愛幹的就是這種事情~~~(太巧了)
2008-05-01 @ 11:30
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"小心又要跪主機板了嘿"

放心放心~俺在此的用詞遣字~
她認不出來~~~

(搖擺)
2008-05-01 @ 11:57
嘿嘿,我就是要幫"那些"教授講話。

抗議!
只許孫權與盛治仁放火,
不許徐永明與林建隆點燈!

有人去當紅衫軍的策士,就是好專業的教授喔,就完全不會「影響校譽」,「對學生產生不良的影響」捏...

完全的兩套標準。哼。
2008-05-01 @ 12:27
迴響 from: akira [訪問者]
哦~~~這個型狀, 這個尺寸, 正是我呷意的類型啊~~~
2008-05-01 @ 12:47
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]

[震怒] 看朱大的部落格也要被閃....


從討論柏楊變成抱怨沒女友及女友沒胸部
為什麼離題的功力可以這麼強....(汗
2008-05-01 @ 12:52
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
啊!!!
那個
看不懂 =_=
2008-05-01 @ 13:22
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
胸奴人~胸奴人~胸!奴!人!來!啦!
問題來了!
假如有天你遇到一個外星女性
雖然他是外星人可是胸前偉大
你願意跟他走嗎?
請簡答之
2008-05-01 @ 13:55
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
我老婆不會准的。
2008-05-01 @ 14:09
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
說的太好了
"因為民主不是形式,而是生活的一部分"
2008-05-01 @ 14:13
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
其實你不請他的話,他恨你一輩子
自卑的時候,成了奴才;自傲的時候,成了主人!獨獨的,沒有自尊。自卑的時候他覺得自己是團狗屎,和權勢走得越近,臉上的笑容越多。自傲的時候覺得其他的人都是狗屎。不屑一顧。變成了一種人格分裂的奇異動物。
「你是民,我是主。」別人有法制,我們也有法制,別人有自由,我們也有自由,你有什麼,我就有什麼。你有斑馬線,我也有斑馬線──當然,我們的斑馬線是用來引誘你給車子壓死的。

====
..真的覺得寫得很不錯
2008-05-01 @ 14:25
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
所有教授一律禁止打工啦~~~吃屎去吧科科科~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-01 @ 15:04
好吧,既然朱大都這麼說了...
所有兼差的教授全部吃屎去吧!!

(這下市面上的屎可能會缺貨呀)

科科~~
2008-05-01 @ 15:16
又及,去當閣揆算不算打工?
2008-05-01 @ 15:18
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
雖然我本來想說殺光光~~~

但老劉就是給他離職去當閣揆了,你要怎麼叫東吳限制他,科科科~~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-01 @ 15:26
迴響 from: 阿狒 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/xtaipei
既然談到老劉
老劉都評價到底如何阿?
俺看不太懂他這個人~
2008-05-01 @ 15:32
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
to vxa
假如有天你遇到一個外星女性
雖然他是外星人可是胸前偉大
你願意跟他走嗎?
請簡答之
---------------------------------------------------------------
假設是一隻大隻佬,你會跟她走嗎?
若是篠崎愛,生為胸奴人的我,還是不會跟她走的....(拭淚)
2008-05-01 @ 16:01
迴響 from: Jeff [訪問者]
「亞細亞的孤兒」的話,小的比較喜歡羅大佑原唱版本。

作為一個永遠的異議份子,柏楊老大在華人(本來想寫台灣的說)的歷史上佔有一席之地,只不過結論還是令人無力,民主制度的優點也就是他的缺點 ---- 你有什麼樣的人民,就會有什麼樣的政府。
2008-05-01 @ 16:53
迴響 from: 哈哈哈 [訪問者]
節錄
下面這次演講發生於二十四年前,名為《醜陋的中國人》。我大概在國小六年級的時候看過這篇文章,當時不是很懂。但現在我比以前更懂了一些。
在你看完之前,先別急著說哈哈哈,這是在罵老共,這是在罵中國人,我是台灣人。


迴響
幹譙國民黨的暴政來紀念自由老兵
暴政V.S.自由
邏輯正確
可是藉此題
以台灣人(非中國人)的角度
來PO罵中國人的文章
台灣V.S.中國
怪怪的吔

如果能把
頌揚自由和種族岐視脫鉤
也就是說
分成兩篇文章
這樣的話
主題比較不混亂
2008-05-01 @ 17:18
迴響 from: 阿彭 [訪問者]
如果同時有一個長得超正的正妹但是只有A cup
和一個長得像路人但是有E cup
那要選那一個啊?
2008-05-01 @ 17:59
迴響 from: Billy [訪問者]
李敖說柏楊當年是因為翻譯大力水手漫畫的無心之過才被關的,
被關之前還到處求了不少情,不知道有沒有人知道來龍去脈?
2008-05-01 @ 18:40
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
所有教授一律禁止打工啦~~~吃屎去吧科科科~~~

Lucifer
****************
教主啊
把"打工"一辭的定義清楚再來說吧
免得又來個雙重標準 因人而異(科科唷唷)
這可不是"奇幻創意之隨便亂想"





2008-05-01 @ 19:35
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
我選A cup
不是胸脯大就是好 =_=
2008-05-01 @ 19:44
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
好啦~經過上方極為稀少的抽樣以後我們得到了結論
地球的男人是不會娶外星女性的
就算被綁架也不會
so火星人小姐~您要不要考慮放棄火星籍入地球籍啊?
這樣您應該就可以擺脫沒有男友的困境了

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迴響來自: 阿彭 [訪問者]
如果同時有一個長得超正的正妹但是只有A cup
和一個長得像路人但是有E cup
那要選那一個啊?
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都不選~我會繼續等到超正的E cup正妹出現
下面咧?下面沒有了!
因為俺是阿宅~科科科科~
2008-05-01 @ 20:57
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
如果胸部太大...
整體也不好看啊...

很噁心耶...
2008-05-01 @ 21:02
迴響 from: 紅葉 [訪問者] · http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/redyeh
如果同時有一個長得超正的正妹但是只有A cup
和一個長得像路人但是有E cup
那要選那一個啊?

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答案其實很簡單,選你愛的那一個就行了。
人呀,是不可能一輩子都是胸奴人的........
.
.
.
.
等一下,這點阿宅除外。
2008-05-01 @ 22:17
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"胸奴人"這個詞兒不錯吧!

下次再發明新的科科科~~~
2008-05-01 @ 22:20
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
放鞭炮....咻...咻...碰...

答案其實很簡單,選你愛的那一個就行了。

終於看見一句"女生心理的標準答案"了!

真是可歌可泣呀~...拭淚...
2008-05-01 @ 22:24
迴響 from: 哦 [訪問者]
其實女生自己不一定喜歡太豐滿
我覺得B或C就好了
以上都是負擔
2008-05-01 @ 23:25
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
給火星人
哎呀~你怎麼都只想著"嫁"的方式咧?
移民有很多種啊!
例如技術移民~
聽說MIB缺人~這也能申請工作移民
總之~地球籍是很好弄到手的
自立自強後就可以去獵殺目標啦~科科科~朱大~要做好防備喔~
------------------------------------------------
阿宅其實很多都是心口不一的
當阿宅戀愛時,你會發現他的對象跟他以前跟你說的條件...50%以上是不符合的!
所以說!朱大~5月了~本月的主題換成什麼?俺要趕流行!
2008-05-01 @ 23:26
迴響 from: Murphy [訪問者] · http://timespacewalker.blogspot.com/
對於柏楊,印象最深刻的,是他的一句:「天之將亮也,狗打貓兒擰。」 :D
2008-05-01 @ 23:27
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
放棄火星籍,入地球籍...
以台灣而言...
這種人,被稱之為外籍新娘~(←哈哈哈哈哈哈哈...得分!!)
外籍新娘的組成條件為~
1.有人要娶我
2.我要先拋棄原有國籍 (←註一)
3.需要取我的那個人的國家願意給我新的國籍,通常只能先取得居留權,目前是滿2年才會有國籍...
所以...
沒有你說的那麼簡單哪~


To 火星人~
註一:那是在你想拿到台灣身分證的前提下..
所以並非〝要先〞喔~~

2008-05-01 @ 23:28
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
當我看到一些外籍新娘的護照上面打了一個洞..
問她為什麼會有一個洞的時候...

她用很不輪轉的中文說著...
因為他們要工作..
所以要拿身分證..
要拿台灣籍..就要放棄自己原來的國籍...(以下略)

聽到...〝放棄國籍〞這四個字...
當下有一種說不出的心酸..
唉~~~

嗯?!太感性了嗎?!XD
2008-05-01 @ 23:32
迴響 from: BR浪逃殺 [訪問者]

收下了
謝謝
2008-05-01 @ 23:50
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]




給 VXA

我倒是沒想過"技術移民"這件事捏!

自立自強後就可以去獵殺目標啦
2008-05-02 @ 00:13
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]


給 VXA

我倒是沒想過"技術移民"這件事捏!

自立自強後就可以去獵殺目標啦
2008-05-02 @ 00:14
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
好奇怪~
不給我出現文字...怒!!



給 VXA



自立自強後就可以去獵殺目標啦 ...這句話看起來不錯,不過,我不吃人肉已經很多年了!

那...我要用什麼"技術"來移民呢? 我不想當MIB...
2008-05-02 @ 00:15
迴響 from: annie [訪問者]
每天一定都要上來瞧一瞧....三餐例行,朱大,拜託要多多po文喔...
2008-05-02 @ 00:16
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
給正咩的也打了N次...怒怒怒~

給 正咩~

我想拿到台灣籍,也就是想拿到台灣的身份證,因為我愛台灣!
..........................傻笑

2008-05-02 @ 00:18
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
是不是我話太多所以PO不上來?
非常疑惑~

我可以體會那種"心酸",每次看見 新移民 被他的老公欺負,被臺灣人欺負,我都很難過...我能為她們做些什麼呢?
......無奈
2008-05-02 @ 00:21
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
怒到不行~
是怎樣?這個網頁排斥外星人嗎?

不想打了~
氣爆了!
:(
2008-05-02 @ 00:23
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
我也愛台灣!!!

因為我是小公主!!!

XDDDDDD
2008-05-02 @ 00:47
迴響 from: yo [訪問者]
題外話

朱老大,有空的話,可以去看一看前一陣子的東X大學日文系正妹的相簿,很驚人的照片又出現了...
2008-05-02 @ 02:42
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
那位小姐...腦袋到底在想些什麼呢...........
2008-05-02 @ 02:55
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
理解不能...理解不能.............
2008-05-02 @ 02:56
迴響 from: yo [訪問者]
我在學校看過他本人,一整個怪...
在校園裡還在戴口罩呢...
2008-05-02 @ 02:58
迴響 from: 浴血狂趴特戰部 [訪問者]
迴響來自: childman [訪問者]
假如有天你遇到一個外星女性
雖然他是外星人可是胸前偉大
你願意跟他走嗎?
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外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~

「如果胸前不偉大呢?」

外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~

(暴走)

這是零的領域嗎?
可能是被前面的回應閃到的後遺症 (默) = = +
2008-05-02 @ 03:00
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
martian考試也加油!
(新五四運動)
2008-05-02 @ 05:13
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
to 唉呀
>包子姐姐加油,撐過去~~
>等妳出關吶
>這是傳說中的集氣嗎
科科科科>

要說集氣也行吧,
唉呀先生要幫忙集嗎

最近好像流行考試噢??

2008-05-02 @ 06:53
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
很!驚!人!的!照!片!

但我在上海,無名被封,再驚人我也看不到~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-02 @ 07:56
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
那個誰誰誰,不要只講什麼東X大學日文系呀,直接把網址貼出來嘛!

我好盜連,供朱大在大陸觀賞呀!
2008-05-02 @ 08:25
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!btTvPxyeHwH.9bOldxg6xfwntjg-/article?mid=910&sc=1

名嘴教授電視節目諫言播兆音

準揆校長作賊心虛越看越寒心

言論自由蠻橫箝制校會來耍陰

公然違憲渺視人權只為靜耳根



我在冷水坑上苦幹無人來犒賞

你在電視節目胡扯有人會發餉

這是卑劣行為老師如何做榜樣

民主給我閉嘴台灣倒退到蠻荒

*************
柏楊死不瞑目啊
2008-05-02 @ 08:52
迴響 from: childman [訪問者]
果然是一整個無法理解,是在炫體旨肪嗎還是響映小奶奶...
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=windsayu1216&b=1&f=1391505847&p=142
2008-05-02 @ 09:22
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
柏楊幹嘛要為了教授兼差權死不瞑目呀~~~

這些名嘴上一次節目最少也三千塊,多的則是到八千或一萬五耶,賺這麼多有沒有分我一點呀!

還諫言哩,這些傢伙都把錢捐出來我勉強會同情他們一屁丁點。

柏楊真正死不瞑目的是沒想到大家奴性還是不減,下位的人替上位爭取權益,賺得少的替賺得多的仗義執言,權利少的替權利少的人講話?!除了奴性作祟之外還有誰會這樣做?

Lucifer

嘿嘿。就像我不會替郭台銘說他戀情被人跟蹤也很可憐一樣~~~
2008-05-02 @ 09:23
迴響 from: 潛水夫 [訪問者]
朱大朱大,有人把網址貼出來了,你現在想看嗎?

上海那裡沒有封鎖呀?我偷偷貼去好了。

呵呵~~~~
2008-05-02 @ 09:33
迴響 from: 異形,19歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
糟糕


我不是因為柏楊老師過世而難過


而是巴哈被攻擊而感到難過

(拖走)
2008-05-02 @ 09:58
迴響 from: 艾魯 [訪問者]
不管在下在上,仗義直言不該區分吧?
在下位就明哲保身的人,我又如何相信居上位後還有可能替下位者爭權益?

不過爭權利的話...我贊同讓他們自助式去爭,我這米蟲旁邊涼就好。
2008-05-02 @ 10:01
迴響 from: 異形,19歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
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今年荷包大失血了...
6/1的超熱血演唱會去定了
2008-05-02 @ 10:02
迴響 from: 艾魯 [訪問者]
李敖批柏楊紀錄縮短連結~
0rz.tw/fe40s
單方面看當然不一定準,不過看一看科科一下還是可以~
2008-05-02 @ 10:15
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
>權利少的替權利少的人講話?!

錯字

科科科科

==========================
>唉呀先生要幫忙集嗎

在這邊集氣總是有不可預期的後果

還是不了

這邊的傳統粉可怕的勒
2008-05-02 @ 10:27
迴響 from: 謝萬金 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/babejing
我看完了很難過
但是大家都變胸奴人了
2008-05-02 @ 10:38
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
老宅男回文還挺有意思科科~
歡迎歡迎~

2008-05-02 @ 10:38
迴響 from: 艾魯 [訪問者]
我想請教一下老宅男為什麼學校搜學生書包就可以了?
怎麼沒弄搜索票?科科
還有那個踰越限制級又是怎麼回事?科科

就算是憲法,還是常常可以看到許多微妙之處。
2008-05-02 @ 11:14
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
虐殺教主
你先搞清楚孰輕孰重
蘇州大學這樣開民主倒車
在九泉含笑不起來的
如果柏老年輕30歲
絕對不會冷眼旁觀
你為文緬懷柏楊 不是要踵其志嗎
不要小和尚念經 騙騙無知阿宅(科科冷笑)

李目白兄
那個不是我寫的 我有貼連結

艾魯兄
你還是專心等教主貼超大正妹圖
或是有空多讀點書

學生在廣義上可以視為國家重要資產 是脆弱需受保護的資產
家長會忍受甚至自願犧牲部分自個子弟的人權 我可不希望有個趙承熙事件
毫無預警的在台灣發生

蘇州大學校務會議限制教授上電視的提案嚴重影響憲法保障的工作權
你們可以等閒視之 繼續看正妹 繼續當胸奴 繼續"奇幻創意之隨便亂想"
但是..........
連這些有能力 有意願說話的意見領袖都備受威脅了 阿宅算個屁啊
願宅力與我們同在







2008-05-02 @ 12:21
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
浴血狂趴特戰部--火星人小姐目標出現了~可以動手捕獲了
當然~不滿意的話~看哪個星球荒涼就丟上去吧XD
2008-05-02 @ 12:54
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
絕大多數的時候,
我們關心時事,評論撰文,
都以知識份子自居為前提.

你可以關心自己想關心的,
期望別人寫文自己先行投書可能實際些.

(何必執著於非誰為之不可?至少俺會認為朱學恒還沒有名到呼風喚雨的程度。<-當然,多點人認識他是最好,講白點柏楊是誰七年級後沒多少人知道。)
2008-05-02 @ 13:14
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
只有老弱婦孺需要幫助,不然我們幹嘛要濟弱扶傾?

我這輩子會誓死遵從的理念我之前就講的很清楚啦:

能夠大聲說話的人,要替不能開口的人仗義執言。 有能力的人,要替沒有能力的人挺身而出。

這些名嘴放個屁都比我大聲喊叫要大聲了,哪輪的到我替他們講話~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-02 @ 14:38
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
看完BLOG的唯一心得...

這小姐沒有把朱大的話聽進去~

都說了,對著鏡子自拍,眼睛要看鏡子裡的鏡頭呀~

嘆息...

提外話

上個月,跟朋友聚餐時,我說,我好胖,腿好粗...我前男友說我是象腿...
(證據...大家自己回去找啦! 沒心情提供...)
然後,一個阿宅就說,這是女生自己的變態審美觀,對男生而言,要有點肉的女生美哪! 於是,阿宅就開始舉例說明了...你看歐美的A片,哪各女生是瘦巴巴都沒肉的,那裏裏好看呀....巴拉巴拉滔滔不絕...
所以,我漸漸感到...開心極了!

以上,是我看了BLOG女大生照片的心得...

2008-05-02 @ 15:03
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
給 vita...

新五四運動...哈~真可愛...

5/4是中華人民共和國的青年節

身為台灣人,只能在"考場中"浴火重生啦!

謝謝你的打氣啦~
2008-05-02 @ 15:07
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
迴響來自: vxa [訪問者]
浴血狂趴特戰部--火星人小姐目標出現了~可以動手捕獲了
當然~不滿意的話~看哪個星球荒涼就丟上去吧XD
___________________________________

我地球語言的能力不太好~
看了很多遍都不懂你再說啥~
最後,又重頭看起...
終於讓我看懂了~
原來是...



跟他有關係~
迴響來自: 浴血狂趴特戰部 [訪問者]
迴響來自: childman [訪問者]
假如有天你遇到一個外星女性
雖然他是外星人可是胸前偉大
你願意跟他走嗎?
-------------------------------
外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~ 外星人也ok啦~

__________________________________

我不會輕易變節的...

我的心裡只有肥阿宅...
打太快打錯了~ :P
我的心裡只有 朱大人...


還有,
再重申一次,我不吃人肉已經很久了~
補人幹麻?
當然是等人家來"釣"呀~

我可是很有姜太公精神的...
2008-05-02 @ 15:15
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
to 老宅男:
學校搜學生書包,普遍不被法學界認為具合法性
法源依據薄弱是主因,
被法律賦予搜索權的只有法官,法官核發搜索票還須考量比例原則哩
(早年檢方也有搜索權,後來因中時大樓搜索事件,中時善用媒體資源,輿論質疑違憲的聲浪四起,2001年立院決定採法官保留原則權利回歸法官,這也讓當事人主義下,被告、檢察官兩造地位不致太失衡。違憲的事存在這麼久,權利真的需要爭取不會從天上掉下來呀!)
教師目無法紀,也是這個社會長期以來讓尊師重道無限上綱所導致後果
(許多前輩為學生人權在奮鬥,但我感覺不管是老師還是學生,思維成熟度不夠,期盼這麼些年下來
,這麼多人不管是老師還是學生的犧牲,能使教育人權一步步越趨成熟。)
您說「家長會忍受甚至自願犧牲部分自個子弟的人權」,我想說的是,
家長是家長,學生是學生,兩者是不同生命及法律個體,不該也不能混為一談。
至於趙承熙事件,我認為這是種族歧視埋下的禍根,
社會長期病態導致的後果是社會要承擔要檢討
不該也不能是「學生的書包」背負這責任

題外話:我感覺敢當老師的膽子真是大,尤其是教導年紀越小的小孩,這分明是在做神的工作,
啟發一個小孩的思維,是多危險多困難的事啊~~(抱歉,老裝著很老成的樣子)
2008-05-02 @ 15:59
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
抱歉,更正,上面的「法官保留原則」,應為「相對法官保留原則」
(因檢察官在特殊情形下,得徑行搜索,之後陳報該管法院,如:
非迅速搜索,二十四小時內證據有偽造、變造、湮滅或隱匿之虞者,等等
(刑訴130、131))

抱歉,原諒本人無聊的龜毛
2008-05-02 @ 16:48
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
啊啊啊~!~!~!~!~!~!
我又戰敗給欲望!!!!!!
我究竟還要懺悔多少次!!!!!
2008-05-02 @ 16:56
迴響 from: simon [訪問者] · http://peedan2.blogspot.com/
我也想多讀點書~~科科~~(床下的A漫和小說好久沒有翻了)

「連這些有能力,有意願說話的意見領袖都備受威脅了」
幹,我還蔣公嘞,領袖個屁。

PO文章緬懷某人就要踵其志…orz~~
推朱大學弟這句「幹政治文愛好者有沒有智商比蛆高的啦!」
(我也喜歡政治文啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊~~T_T)
2008-05-02 @ 17:43
迴響 from: sakmor [訪問者]
前年去過一次那邊(泰北),見過了留下來的老兵
他們不是台灣人 不是泰國人 不是大陸人
為國民黨打過共產黨,為了生存也幫泰國打過仗......
好多人都是斷手斷腳(打仗之故)。 時代的悲劇,應該讓現在年輕人多多了解阿...朱大給你個好!
2008-05-02 @ 18:36
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
俺...俺也想多看點書...
2008-05-02 @ 18:47
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
為什麼我今天本來要寫文章的卻一篇也寫不出來啊啊啊啊啊~~~


Lucifer
2008-05-02 @ 18:55
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
因為你沒多看點書...
2008-05-02 @ 19:05
迴響 from: simon [訪問者]
寫個十億元的用途如何??
科科~~
我是蛆~~
2008-05-02 @ 19:22
迴響 from: 卜子 [訪問者]
最後,柏楊還是沒有告訴我們
到底鄧克保是誰
我的意思是小說影射的是誰
2008-05-02 @ 19:28
迴響 from: 簡尼夫德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
呀!!!
我又戰敗給欲望!!!

我最近在台灣奇摩知識+看到一些有趣的事 =_=
~~~~~~分隔線~~~~~~
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我的龜頭有點痛!!! [ 檢舉 ]
發 問 者: 芋仔 ( 初學者 5 級 )
發問時間: 2005-04-14 19:33:47 / 解決時間: 2005-04-24 19:42:02
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今天看a片的時候.忽然想打槍.剛好衝著一股勁看到旁邊有灌機油.於是我就淋在老二上打槍..打完後感覺機油跑進去.到現在還在痛.我不敢看醫生.也不敢讓我媽知道.我要怎麼辦??

其他回答
回 答 者: Recky ( 初學者 5 級 ) 4 票 [ 檢舉 ]
回答時間: 2005-04-14 19:44:02
怎麼有人用機油呢?? 又不是機車,,趕快去看醫生吧

回 答 者: 這件案子由你處理 ( 初學者 3 級 ) 5 票 [ 檢舉 ]
回答時間: 2005-04-14 22:50:25
看醫生最快,機油淋在老二上,新玩法嗎?= = "

回 答 者: 小全 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 7 票 [ 檢舉 ]
回答時間: 2005-04-15 10:58:27
厚))))))))))))))))))
你還要不要你的老二啊
請你馬上 立刻 去看醫生!!!!!!!!!!!
真傷腦筋
參考資料
護士~~me

回 答 者: 。。。Minini。。。 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 3 票 [ 檢舉 ]
回答時間: 2005-04-18 18:25:49
當然是去看醫生啦~
你如果慢慢不痛...也許可以不去看!
但是就怕會越來越嚴重...

意 見
[ 其他 ] ~*~深海的~*~一顆星~*~ ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-07-30 02:05:04 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
好恐怖阿~~~我最多用豐年果堂....

[ 補充意見 ] Yang ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-07-31 01:49:06 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
一般油性的物質,具有高滲透性,能有效的覆蓋住皮膚上的毛細孔,形成一層阻絕空氣的保護膜。所以你的懶叫現在處於缺氧狀態,需要人工呼吸,叫你媽幫你吹一吹就好了。

[ 補充意見 ] ╮★☆‧黑雪‧╭ ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-04 13:37:17 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
看你要剁掉還是看醫生??

[ 其他 ] 奶油犬 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-04 14:42:31 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
那是機油..不是雞油~好唄..

[ 補充意見 ] 人造人16號 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-05 22:08:38 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
不然下次打槍,試試看巴拉松吧!包"爽".打完再用福馬林包起來,省下看醫生的錢! 年輕人,想玩特別的也該考慮一下後果吧~ 珍惜自己身體!

[ 不同意見 ] 老虎五隻 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-09 13:45:42 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你玩蛋了 來不及了 你準備等著爛掉吧
不過 可以試看看 最後的這一招
買一罐 WD40 或是 買一小瓶柴油
往龜頭上噴洗 看看可不可以挽救
真不知道該怎麼形容你這個傢伙

[ 不同意見 ] 謝影白 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-13 17:57:15 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
在高速摩擦下,就可以使出傳說中的火鳥功了!(恍然大悟)

[ 其他 ] 馬子當寶朋友當草 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-18 21:57:27 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
水喔~你應該找個有性病的妓女
用它的淫水中和機油
在用生菜花的嘴巴吹簫10分鐘
讓口水及菜花病毒治療你受損的龜頭細胞= =

[ 補充意見 ] ㄚ州帝國萬歲 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-19 13:27:46 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
下次要記得加機油精,這樣就不會痛了~哈哈哈哈OGC可以玩到這樣,強~

[ 補充意見 ] 亞蘭教共九逃 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-20 16:25:52 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你要用齒輪油拉....

[ 補充意見 ] ★☆【望月】☆★ ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-22 20:15:42 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
當然是快去看醫生呀!自己去或找同學去比較好,不要給家人知道,不然實在是......

[ 補充意見 ] [MVP]RSX-0806 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-22 20:50:24 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
哈哈= =..快斷氣了... 太渴也不要這樣= =...你可以把你那根= = 插到 汽油孔= =|| 然後開車就會排掉了...哈哈= =

[ 補充意見 ] 為所郁為~戀上妳 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-23 20:37:54 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你把機油當潤滑油喔......快去看醫生,我看你是性衝動,你別下次太爽把大便吃了.......

[ 補充意見 ] 哇係奕仔 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-24 01:21:00 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
哈哈 笑死我了......受不了 受不了 哈哈哈.....第一次聽到機器人在打槍...

[ 補充意見 ] 風的憂愁 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-26 14:23:56 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
哇靠~老兄你真猛~你的是鎢鋼材質嗎?服了你~快去看醫生機油有腐蝕性。

[ 補充意見 ] 望懷 ( 初學者 3 級 ) 2005-08-26 21:05:09 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
多喝水把油給去掉吧
可以試著多喝點茶,去油解膩

[ 補充意見 ] ~期待未來~~~回憶過去~~ ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-26 23:40:25 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
妳可以用存喫茶洗洗看....紅茶,綠茶,烏龍茶,檸檬紅茶都能試試看.....

[ 補充意見 ] 玉米 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-27 17:29:45 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
砍掉重練吧

[ 相同意見 ] INAZUMA ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-27 20:03:51 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
建議用德國辣椒膏+辣椒粉去加機油OGC會更好

[ 補充意見 ] 北鼻 , 橘* ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-27 23:57:37 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
送你一支番仔火好了 = =+

[ 補充意見 ] ﹌唯 獨 i 尼 × ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 11:11:05 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你以為你的老二是無敵鐵金雞喔 拿機油勒 下次你可以拿芥末試試看喔 塊去看醫生吧

[ 補充意見 ] Brock~翔~Kobe強 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 11:31:50 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
我建議~~砍掉讓她重生~在試試看石油會不會比較好用

[ 補充意見 ] Impreza STi ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 11:41:50 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
朋友阿---我真替你感到悲哀你去拿生化柴油來打吧

[ 其他 ] ★批著狼皮的羊★ ( 初學者 4 級 ) 2005-08-28 17:23:36 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你怎麼不點火啊??

[ 相同意見 ] OverSoul ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 17:34:24 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
把他燒了吧

[ 補充意見 ] 5150 ( 初學者 3 級 ) 2005-08-28 20:54:49 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
不用廢話
砍掉重練

[ 補充意見 ] Sap ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 21:12:02 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
下次記得先備分

[ 補充意見 ] 呆呆 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 21:12:32 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
先生 你是在練中國古武學 火鳥功嗎??

[ 其他 ] ga011200 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 21:12:34 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你一定是加錯了 95的機機不能用98的加阿

[ 補充意見 ] 聖司 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 21:53:33 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你試著烤一下…看能不能把油揮發掉…這樣可能還有救…不然雞雞就要飛上天堂了…

[ 補充意見 ] Poissons ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-28 23:53:08 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
其實你可以用沙拉油,至少比較安全!!

[ 補充意見 ] 阿姆羅 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 15:51:55 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你加錯洞了
你是不是倒到汽油孔阿
這樣不會動的啦

[ 補充意見 ] 野性本能 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 16:04:56 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
可以試試看用嘴巴含辣椒水,噴一點到小弟上頭,記得要噴仔細點,雖然有點痛,不過應該可以把小弟痛的感覺緩和一下(注意力轉移?)。

[ 不同意見 ] Peter ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 17:33:43 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
再射一次把殘留的機油射初不就好了, 沒改善的話就再射..

[ 補充意見 ] 天使的呢喃 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 19:03:51 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
不知道你會不會看到我的意見,不過我相信你一定沒什麼勁,否則你可以射完第一次以後再射一次把機油搞出來...

[ 補充意見 ] 雀巢Nestea ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 19:43:21 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
去找個女人幹吧!做到一半搞不好會因為摩擦燒起來喔!!

[ 補充意見 ] 精緻人工智慧猴 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 21:31:08 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
覺得你的老二可能要換皮了
你可以手術用自己的屁股皮換囉
手術後要休息一段時間了
因為屁股的關係啦
就當作是休假

[ 補充意見 ] 不公開 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-29 21:43:29 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
挖勒~
會不會太強啦 機油可能是直再腐食你的雞雞
建議你先洗乾淨 再去看醫生吧
建議看醫生的時候 打一把傘去
你因該不會想練火鳥功吧 = =

[ 補充意見 ] ≡~乂式型錄~≡ ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 05:15:25 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你好酷喔~我可以跟你交個朋友嗎…。

[ 相同意見 ] Gionie ( 初學者 4 級 ) 2005-08-30 11:37:36 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
哈哈哈哈!!!機油....有你的!!

[ 補充意見 ] ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 12:06:40 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
哈哈哈~可以試試看之前廣告很瞎的油切的茶阿~雖然效果比去漬油差不過天然A尚好麻

[ 補充意見 ] 111 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 13:03:51 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
機油不夠力~擬改天用柴油試試會比較有POWER

[ 補充意見 ] 屮凸屮 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 15:10:27 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
我都用樟腦油

[ 補充意見 ] 橘落 ( 初學者 3 級 ) 2005-08-30 16:08:35 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你現在拿把火來燒燒看
如果點燃了 那代表裡面有機油存在

[ 其他 ] Andy ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 16:20:32 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
有沒有女友呢或太太?請他幫幫忙吧!或著去看醫生好了!

[ 補充意見 ] Deceiver ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 16:26:44 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
Good job...well done...good work...我徹底的輸了 你可以去參加生活智慧王那種節目

[ 相同意見 ] 溫柔壞男人 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 17:28:29 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
請趕緊往泌尿科診所去就醫吧!!!

[ 其他 ] 2夢~一肚子大便 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 17:29:56 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
如果能把轉速推到1萬轉的話!!也許可以把機油磨光....

[ 其他 ] oRanGe DaYs ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 18:03:57 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
機油是原廠的還是公司貨啊.如果是公司貨的話那比較好處理,趕緊去離家裡較近的機車行修理.如果是原廠的話,那就比較麻煩些了,趕快叫機車行騎回原廠處理...(別忘了帶行照喔)

[ 補充意見 ] 一聶影一 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 19:17:23 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
不行 通通拿去做雞精~!!

[ 補充意見 ] BOY ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 20:16:45 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
真是服了你......
在不去看醫生我看 你以後不能打槍了
趁你沒毛病趕快看醫生 真出了毛病去看醫生 媒體記者會找上你

[ 補充意見 ] 阿呆 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 20:20:12 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
天啊...沒必要那麼急吧....
再怎麼急..你家廚房應該有沙拉油之類的食用油吧...至少...食用油吃了沒事...機油嘛......你看過人家喝嗎??

[ 補充意見 ] 真實力量的溫和蘊藉 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 20:57:57 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
你以為老二是大蟒蛇喔
妳以為她長大會拖皮喔

[ 其他 ] 小兔子乖乖_把門開開 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 22:37:27 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
先舔一舔 再泡一泡牛奶 然後找把快刀 切了之後 存錢買新的吧 建議不要買中國貨 黑心很多!!良心建議

[ 補充意見 ] ㄚ聰 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 23:02:13 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
+8陰莖 強烈的發出 藍色的光芒 一會兒就消失了。
點祝武卷看會不會跳二吧= ="

[ 不同意見 ] 阿山 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-30 23:07:37 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
痾~我爸說阿!!用吹風機催乾後..再用洗衣粉洗衣洗就可以變成真男人了喔

[ 不同意見 ] 銀克 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-31 00:11:55 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
現在不用想太多 準備好女性何爾蒙了嗎?

[ 補充意見 ] 魯蛋 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-31 01:01:54 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
好一 個天兵

[ 補充意見 ] PoPn Red_* ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-31 01:17:52 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
看到這個 讓我想到了醒目兒!

[ 補充意見 ] 漲潮摟!~~回關渡 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-31 09:10:53 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
試過惡魔果實了媽.....

[ 補充意見 ] 小倩 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-31 10:36:40 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
唉!!有這麼需要 嗎..再不看醫生就準備剁掉 吧..你這性飢渴 的傢伙

[ 補充意見 ] not agenesis36 ( 初學者 5 級 ) 2005-08-31 11:48:08 發表 [ 檢舉 ]
火鳥公練不成,可重練魁花寶典阿!!
練成你就賺到了!!
2008-05-02 @ 23:50
迴響 from: 嘶皅宅呀人 [訪問者]
他們宅死, 便與螢幕同朽...

他們宅剰,卻仍是正妹不容...

"宅域"

繼"醜陋的胸奴人"後,又一感人鉅作

精彩片段節錄:
(正妹,我們已經甚麼都沒有了,從現在開始,我們還是只能過自己的生活...)
(犧牲, 還有什麼好犧牲的, 不過就是我們這幾顆硬碟的空間嗎?...)
(看看我們這群人,還有哪個正妹願意多看我們一眼的?...)
(我們這些人流的每一滴汗,每一滴血,每一滴X,都是為正妹留的, 得到卻只有兩個字{冷漠}...)
(我從小是跟布洛格一起宅大的,......我不想看見你們領卡...)

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ㄜ 突然覺得會出現這樣一部作品...
這樣是不是有比較整合一下大家本篇的回應阿...
2008-05-03 @ 00:13
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
樓樓上十六歲的小男生真是精力充沛呀~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-03 @ 00:21
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"醜陋的胸奴人"

哇靠...這個真正好笑...阿哈哈哈哈...
2008-05-03 @ 00:32
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
精彩片段節錄:
(正妹,我們已經甚麼都沒有了,從現在開始,我們還是只能過自己的生活...)
(犧牲, 還有什麼好犧牲的, 不過就是我們這幾顆硬碟的空間嗎?...)
(看看我們這群人,還有哪個正妹願意多看我們一眼的?...)
(我們這些人流的每一滴汗,每一滴血,每一滴X,都是為正妹留的, 得到卻只有兩個字{冷漠}...)
(我從小是跟布洛格一起宅大的,......我不想看見你們領卡...)
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推~大推~大大推!!!
這部有上映的話我會破戒一個人去電影院看的!
麻煩上映日期跟我說一下
2008-05-03 @ 00:42
迴響 from: antonia [訪問者]
看完這篇文章
才知道原來「差不多先生」講得還算客氣
但......六年級對這篇文章有感,是不是早熟了點

還有,「戀愛相談室」的標題到底怎麼回事?
是我天資太駑鈍了嗎
回頭我該把暱稱上的「天王星」拿掉了......
畢竟地球人不該跟外星人比外星

ps.不過說正經的,看你的文章有充電的感覺,看來可以少看很多本書了




2008-05-03 @ 00:59
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
喔~
阿彌陀佛...
那個...不懂事的小男孩~

奇怪,
大家這些很有趣的資料哪來的~
這是不宅的外星正妹很難理解的事!

2008-05-03 @ 02:17
迴響 from: henrie [訪問者]
題外話:RSS feed不提供全文了唷....
2008-05-03 @ 02:33
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]

朱大,沒有靈感就先擱下,別煩惱,想別的事,放輕鬆一些啦!
2008-05-03 @ 06:19
迴響 from: 正咩...??? [訪問者]
話說...
這個戀愛相談室的功用到底是......??

還以為是可以跟朱大談到戀愛咧...XDDDDDDDDDDD
2008-05-03 @ 10:47
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
婦產科的功用難道是來掛號的人幫醫生生小孩嗎?

Lucifer
2008-05-03 @ 11:29
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
影片變包子了......

2008-05-03 @ 11:47
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]


原來是我手賤把flash檔案玩壞了
2008-05-03 @ 12:15
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
正咩...???:

所以你要多看點書...

唉呀:

所以你也要多看點書...

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來吧...大家一起多看點書運動...

謝謝指教!
2008-05-03 @ 12:26
迴響 from: 浴血狂趴特戰部 [訪問者]
看到知識+那篇現在變成這樣反而讓我覺得更好笑 XD

很抱歉!

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2008-05-03 @ 20:09
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
關於蘇州大學限制言論自由事件
許多非宅系部落格也發出看法
相對宅系部落格的冷漠....
教主要加油喔 這樣不行啊

難怪人家與正妹睡在一起.................

蘇州大學的經費如果一分一毫都是自己募款 不拿政府分文
他怎麼限制都可以被解釋為財務考量
這個非宅系部落格的看法與我之前的回覆文邏輯一致
教主批評林教授也是相類似的邏輯啊
怎麼教主這次惦惦
只會有口無心紀念人權鬥士柏楊
對馬政府劉揆限縮言論尺度 不置一辭
心態可議喔.........

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好聯
先說好
對於東吳這件事
我的看法不全然支持所謂的言論自由
美國企業因為員工抽煙
要員工戒煙或辭職選一樣
私人企業有財務考量的做法
舉世皆同
如果今天是台大這麼幹
我就比較不爽

整件事還頗有討論空間
因為認識不少台灣學術界的人
所以
還是別評論台灣學術界的問題比較好


不過
我喜歡這段報導

林建隆說,抗議海報已經做好了,上聯是「只准冷水坑論政」,下聯是「不准上電視政論」,橫批是「搞什麼教育」,以具體行動,對東吳表達沉痛的抗議。
http://blog.roodo.com/shifting/archives/5961841.html
2008-05-04 @ 12:45
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
靠邀,就說政治文愛好者的智商都比蛆還低,還要一直說!

好啦,今天特別大放送,你他媽的若是可以證明我寫文支持這些賺錢賺的飽飽的的鬼名嘴就有正妹跟我睡,不要說一篇,十篇我都一天寫出來!

但請記得要先請正妹到我家來,我要驗貨,免得一切犧牲不值得!

Lucifer

流氓教授真的是超勇的,現場示威說要靜坐到「學校低頭為止」,幹結果一個多小時就收工下班了。我鄰居的小狗靜坐都可以比這個久......
2008-05-04 @ 13:10
迴響 from: 球球 [訪問者]

幹麻生氣~
先把你家地址公佈出來,馬上一堆正妹去巷子裡排隊排到火車站…
(有的是仰慕者)
(有的是記者)
(有的是看熱鬧者)
(有的是為了看正妹而男扮女裝的蠢阿宅者)
……
2008-05-04 @ 13:24
迴響 from: nihilist [訪問者]
to:老宅男
想寫啥不會在自己的blog寫?
跑到別人的blog要別人寫啥=.=?
你打電話去給馬英九叫他發表感想不是更快?

"政治文愛好者的智商都比蛆還低"

我覺得可以列入強迫症症狀,
大概是去參加婚禮然後會要跟辦桌師傅點餐要吃牛排的那種病患。
2008-05-04 @ 15:01
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
"我的看法不全然支持所謂的言論自由"

如果是這樣,你的重心恐怕就在政治上。
2008-05-04 @ 16:33
迴響 from: 唉呀 [訪問者]
獅子間的戰爭

小兔子在旁邊爽個屁阿

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這件事很像黑社會阿

上梁山要納投名狀

這麼多朝代經過了還是沒長進......
2008-05-04 @ 17:18
迴響 from: wilson [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wilson00229

中國人變強了又怎麼樣
台灣人走出去了又怎麼樣
我看你100 不 幾十年後就變成一堆沙了
有感覺嗎
是知道什麼喔
九泉 九泉是在哪裡
沒去過誰也不敢肯定那個地方存在
就像沒有人去過別的星球不知道那個星球有沒有外星人一樣
(你說外星人是真的 只是被隱瞞了)
喔喔喔 對
那你乾脆說MIB真的存在 只是他們有消除記憶的用具好了
(不知道比喻貼不貼切 想表達的是沒有人會知道什麼是真的 而什麼又不是)



話說回來
而且老宅大跟虐殺大所探討的問題根本沒有交集(主要的訴求點)
一個是探討工作權 民主議題
一個是反威權 或是反資本
(有誤請更正)
這樣來說好了
就像是一個在問老闆殺雞之後還會不會連猴子都殺掉
一個則是猴子不爽雞每天都有吃不完的美食 X不完的母雞一樣
(如果覺得言論太激烈請原諒 只是做個貼切的比喻)

如果要把我說成是一個不成熟亂放話的各位大大
我只是覺得
這世界 本來就沒什麼道理可言^^
2008-05-04 @ 19:07
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
老宅男阿老宅男
自己論點很遜就不要一直出來說
紀念人權鬥士柏楊==就必須認同教授上節目賺外快?
這不就跟某觀念當初說的 愛台灣->就要投給"台灣人" 一樣?
這種邏輯,難怪朱老大懶得理妳

抽菸本就是不應該被允許
因為會造成危害其他人健康的後果
妳有抽菸的自由 可是其她員工有選擇健康的自由
妳抽菸 她吸二手煙 答案很明白

學術界? 妳就代表學術界?
台灣學術界 不對就是不對
該受評論就該受評論
難到 "只有學術界可以評人 不能被評"
2008-05-04 @ 19:20
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
妳無法認同就無法認同
唉.看了妳的第一段
就可以知道
為什麼中國/台灣 比不上人家西方人

妳說的話倒是很多誤 呢
老宅男所說 有多少是工作權 有多少是妳所謂的 "民主"議題
反權威 反資本也是妳自己說的
跟朱老大所訴求的
差很多.

您的比喻反過來說也挺適用於妳身上的:)

這世界多的是道理可言
自己不知道就別出來說了
2008-05-04 @ 19:33
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
亞細亞的孤兒
真是好聽阿
2008-05-04 @ 20:22
迴響 from: wilson [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wilson00229
對對對
中國人比不上西方人
誰說的
自己先貶低自己

喔喔
那哪裡不是工作權
哪裡不是民主議題呢 想請教
那又想請教
哪裡又不是反權威反資本呢
我沒說我所說一定對
但你也得拿出證據
拿一句否認就算了?


比喻如何適用我身上了
更想請教

呵呵
想不到這年頭啊
連發個文都有人需要人身攻擊(咳咳 我沒說是你啊 我只是敘述句 免得說我血口噴人 大家可以評評理)
2008-05-04 @ 20:33
迴響 from: 毛絨絨 [訪問者]
嘴砲文
看了就膩…
2008-05-04 @ 20:39
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
戰吧戰吧~~~

Lucifer
2008-05-04 @ 20:39
迴響 from: wilson [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wilson00229

抱歉
如果大家認為我是嘴砲文
那我就不再發

我只是認為
這世界上本來應該堅持的就應該要堅持
是真的就是真的
不會因為哪些人怎麼說
就會有所改變
2008-05-04 @ 20:49
迴響 from: simon [訪問者]
我在網路前看正妹靜坐也可以撐得比流氓「教授」更久…
媽的,他還很爽的說他當過流氓哩!!
2008-05-04 @ 20:57
迴響 from: wilson [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wilson00229
第一次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
蔣經國執意要把柏楊打入綠島天牢的時候
馬英九還只是思想純正的建中香港僑生
柏楊因為美國議員的強烈干涉蔣政權內政
始能釋放回台灣本島 此時馬英九已經有美國永久居留權
教主放來不及參與陷害忠良的蔣經國秘書馬英九探訪柏楊的照片
真是歷史諷刺 教主拍馬屁真是拍過頭了
馬英九明年要去頭寮謁陵不知道要不要噙著淚報告故總統 他去探訪郭衣洞
還是....蔣經國沒問 馬英九就不說........

這是在說馬英九跟蔣經國之間的"模式"(竟有如此關係)

第二次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
即使只要一兩百元,這幾百位老兵就可以勉強生存下去,但國民黨的榮譽主席連戰去大陸拜訪時,卻從來沒有想起有這麼一群人,從來沒想到讓他兒子連勝文少吃幾碗飯(咳咳),讓他的金孫少換幾條高檔尿布,就可以讓幾個當年國民黨的忠誠老兵活下去。
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異域孤軍跟連戰父子何干?
教主 你還是寫軟性話題比較好

是說連戰跟那些老兵無關

第三次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
拍錯馬屁 小沙彌念經的教主啊
這個有關蘇州大學限制言論自由的新聞真是極大諷刺
柏楊死不瞑目啊
阿宅的宿命看超大畫面的正妹 無腦說別人傻蛋?
我不相信 我不相信
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大學教授當名嘴 東吳要管制
民視 更新日期:2008/04/30 17:59

政論節目中,不少大學教授是常客,不過東吳大學的校務會議將提案,部分教授參加政論節目,發表言論造成校友反應不佳,甚至可能損害校譽,東吳因此研議,限制教授上節目前不但要報備,而且最多一個月只能上四次。

可能會被限制的包括常上政論節目的羅致政、徐永明、林建隆還有8月即將回德文系的謝志偉,徐永明說,根本就是即將上任閣揆的劉兆玄,在壓迫言論自由,即將卸下新聞局長的謝志偉說,回東吳後還是堅持繼續開講。

目前全國的大專院校,東吳是第一個在校務會議中,研擬限制教授發表政治言論的學校,是不是箝制了言論自由?就看東吳的校方,要怎麼對外界解釋了。(民視新聞綜合報導)

是PO一篇新聞
說明此行為壓迫言論自由

第四次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
正妹如此養眼
柏楊顯得遙遠
結果是小沙彌念經
有口無心(泣)

阿宅們要培養檢驗能力啊
老衲為了救阿宅
扮黑臉檢驗某人
就如同某人檢驗林教授(我肯定某人的作為)
台灣未來就靠阿宅了
繼續加油 願宅力與我們同在

是說需要有檢驗能力
因為此人是阿宅的"王"XD(應該可以這樣說吧)

第五次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
我做個背景介紹好啦
看到阿宅的回覆內容 真的....點點點
柏楊在沒有被打入大牢之前
只是一個跟教主一樣 有才氣愛耍嘴皮的作家
如果用現代的說法就是意識形態
與黨政軍特一把抓的國民黨當局格格不入
教主與柏楊都是喜歡譁眾取寵的才子
為何同樣是譁眾取寵 卻有兩種不同結果
阿宅自己可得想一想 (感謝一下台灣總統吧)
事實上柏楊被抓去關 事前毫無徵兆
連柏楊也沒意識到譁眾取寵的代價如此巨大
當年柏楊對人權 民主制度比一般人有概念 算是自由派思想
雜文批評時敝依循著中國五四運動的批判精神
時隔五十年距離千里之遙的台灣 自由思想還是不見容於"中國"政權(一中各表個鳥 都是一個鳥樣啦)
柏楊真的意識到人權問題 還是被關出來以後的事情了
教主沒被關過黑牢 不懂人權 所以貼出馬英九探視瀕危的柏老照片
老衲看了 唉 深嘆一口氣 真是歷史諷刺
當年執意要關柏老的就是蔣經國--馬英九每年謁陵的對象
好巧不巧 這兩天蘇州大學要限制諸名嘴教授上電視評論政治的新聞

私立大學要限制員工言行 沒問題
那麼以後就不要再拿政府補助
這套邏輯是從教主批評林教授那邊學來 反推回去也可以成立
所以蘇州大學校方的決議是有爭議性的 甚至是違憲喔
教主對此不置一辭
奇哉 怪哉
違憲與林教授慷公家資源之慨
孰輕孰重

阿宅們真的要加油啊

在說教主不懂人權(大概是蔣經國"如果"地下有知會... 因為馬英九去看柏楊)
以及
蘇州大學拿公家補助
卻做出如此決定(壓迫言論自由)
但他在下面有說到
此處還有議論空間
因為如果完全是公家補助或是公家很大部分或金額很大就無法接受(例如台大)

第六次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
醜陋的中國人這本書是站在厚黑學與阿Q正傳兩大巨人的肩頭上
柏楊批判中國人的論點只是54運動的遺緒 以現在看 算是舊思維了
政治制度改變人性民族性 從兩岸的差異性就看得出來
柏老晚年專注史書與人權事務 就可以看出柏老早已超越自我
阿宅不要再追逐大師的唾沫
何不關注蘇州大學以工作權要脅限制教授言論自由的違憲惡行呢
勿再捨本逐末了
有檢驗能力的阿宅絕對可以救台灣

是說
現在眼前重要的是壓迫言論權跟工作權的事
還有
需要有檢驗能力(再次強調)

第七次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
所有教授一律禁止打工啦~~~吃屎去吧科科科~~~

Lucifer
****************
教主啊
把"打工"一辭的定義清楚再來說吧
免得又來個雙重標準 因人而異(科科唷唷)
這可不是"奇幻創意之隨便亂想"

促教主定義打工一詞
免得討論有疑義

第八次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!btTvPxyeHwH.9bOldxg6xfwntjg-/article?mid=910&sc=1

名嘴教授電視節目諫言播兆音

準揆校長作賊心虛越看越寒心

言論自由蠻橫箝制校會來耍陰

公然違憲渺視人權只為靜耳根



我在冷水坑上苦幹無人來犒賞

你在電視節目胡扯有人會發餉

這是卑劣行為老師如何做榜樣

民主給我閉嘴台灣倒退到蠻荒

*************
柏楊死不瞑目啊

同樣是說壓迫人權
民主倒退
柏楊若知道也死不瞑目

第九次
迴響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
虐殺教主
你先搞清楚孰輕孰重
蘇州大學這樣開民主倒車
在九泉含笑不起來的
如果柏老年輕30歲
絕對不會冷眼旁觀
你為文緬懷柏楊 不是要踵其志嗎
不要小和尚念經 騙騙無知阿宅(科科冷笑)

李目白兄
那個不是我寫的 我有貼連結

艾魯兄
你還是專心等教主貼超大正妹圖
或是有空多讀點書

學生在廣義上可以視為國家重要資產 是脆弱需受保護的資產
家長會忍受甚至自願犧牲部分自個子弟的人權 我可不希望有個趙承熙事件
毫無預警的在台灣發生

蘇州大學校務會議限制教授上電視的提案嚴重影響憲法保障的工作權
你們可以等閒視之 繼續看正妹 繼續當胸奴 繼續"奇幻創意之隨便亂想"
但是..........
連這些有能力 有意願說話的意見領袖都備受威脅了 阿宅算個屁啊
願宅力與我們同在

他說
柏楊不會冷眼旁觀
教主要跟隨柏老 就該如此作為(出言批判此事)
而且連這些在上位者都受威脅
會不會處理完就換我們了(一步一步進逼 我的譬喻就是如此 殺機又殺猴)

第十次
響來自: 老宅男 [訪問者]
關於蘇州大學限制言論自由事件
許多非宅系部落格也發出看法
相對宅系部落格的冷漠....
教主要加油喔 這樣不行啊

難怪人家與正妹睡在一起.................

蘇州大學的經費如果一分一毫都是自己募款 不拿政府分文
他怎麼限制都可以被解釋為財務考量
這個非宅系部落格的看法與我之前的回覆文邏輯一致
教主批評林教授也是相類似的邏輯啊
怎麼教主這次惦惦
只會有口無心紀念人權鬥士柏楊
對馬政府劉揆限縮言論尺度 不置一辭
心態可議喔.........

*************

好聯
先說好
對於東吳這件事
我的看法不全然支持所謂的言論自由
美國企業因為員工抽煙
要員工戒煙或辭職選一樣
私人企業有財務考量的做法
舉世皆同
如果今天是台大這麼幹
我就比較不爽

整件事還頗有討論空間
因為認識不少台灣學術界的人
所以
還是別評論台灣學術界的問題比較好


不過
我喜歡這段報導

林建隆說,抗議海報已經做好了,上聯是「只准冷水坑論政」,下聯是「不准上電視政論」,橫批是「搞什麼教育」,以具體行動,對東吳表達沉痛的抗議。

是說
之前教主批判林教授
此時也是一樣的情況 應該一視同仁
並懷疑教主的心態可議(幫忙馬政府)
而且說到了這件事還有議論空間
因為東吳是私立 不像台大
(但教主的言論是說東吳是全果補助最多的 所以不成立)

第一次
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
果然署名有個老字的都是傻蛋。

這些人都是國民黨的啦!笨蛋~~~

Lucifer

幹政治文愛好者有沒有智商比蛆高的啦!怎麼看到現在都覺得沒有!

他說都是國民黨所以可以這樣說

第二次
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
那個Childman誰叫你在我發文時插隊,我說的是你頭上的啦!

至於那個東吳大學,我還可以告訴你,他們拿卓越教學計畫的補助是全國所有學校裡面最多的呢!

不過我為啥要幫這些賺得盆滿缽滿的教授說話?老兵沒飯吃沒衣穿,年輕的農民收入僅能餬口,連女友都交不到;跟腦滿腸肥的教授不能賺外快,你說哪個重要?

那林一平不是也很可憐?幫學生說話還要被罵,那我是不是該多多同情他?呿~~~

等我幫這些既得利益者說話,幹,下輩子吧科科科~~~~

就說政治文愛好者只看立場不看對方地位,要說可憐怎麼輪的到這些人?所以本人一向支持教授評鑑制度公開、從嚴!這樣才能淘汰那些不專注本業,坐領高薪的學術蛆蛆(蠕動)~~~

Lucifer

兩位要轉載都請自便嚕,請記得註明出處和原作者哈哈~~~

是說
東吳的補助是全國最多
所以也是非常不能接受(就同老宅男所說的台大相類似)
另外
反對那些教授 既得利益者(我所謂的資本家)
頗有社會主義的影子
因為是站在左派這邊一點

第三次
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
所有教授一律禁止打工啦~~~吃屎去吧科科科~~~

Lucifer

是教主反對教授上言論節目
因為已經賺那麼多了還要賺外快
不爽

第四次
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
雖然我本來想說殺光光~~~

但老劉就是給他離職去當閣揆了,你要怎麼叫東吳限制他,科科科~~~~

Lucifer

這是說 還有人賺外快賺到內閣去

第四次
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
柏楊幹嘛要為了教授兼差權死不瞑目呀~~~

這些名嘴上一次節目最少也三千塊,多的則是到八千或一萬五耶,賺這麼多有沒有分我一點呀!

還諫言哩,這些傢伙都把錢捐出來我勉強會同情他們一屁丁點。

柏楊真正死不瞑目的是沒想到大家奴性還是不減,下位的人替上位爭取權益,賺得少的替賺得多的仗義執言,權利少的替權利少的人講話?!除了奴性作祟之外還有誰會這樣做?

Lucifer

嘿嘿。就像我不會替郭台銘說他戀情被人跟蹤也很可憐一樣~~~

柏楊不需死不瞑目(跟他何干 其實本人同意此論點)
教授賺那麼多
既得利益者 (資本家) 有何同情之處

第五次
迴響來自: 虐殺 [成員]
只有老弱婦孺需要幫助,不然我們幹嘛要濟弱扶傾?

我這輩子會誓死遵從的理念我之前就講的很清楚啦:

能夠大聲說話的人,要替不能開口的人仗義執言。 有能力的人,要替沒有能力的人挺身而出。

這些名嘴放個屁都比我大聲喊叫要大聲了,哪輪的到我替他們講話~~~

Lucifer

教主濟弱扶傾
有能力要替沒能力說話
不應該是我們這些在下位者反而要向在上位者討好幫他們說話
反而是他們具有影響力要站出來監督政府(同樣的 是偏左的思想)






整理好久
r
你倒說說看
我哪裡說得不對
我就整理給你看
花一點時間沒關係
重點是真正的事實不該被埋沒


最多最多也不過老宅男說這件事還有議論空間
並不全然是壓迫人權

但教主也說阿
東吳拿的馬尼很多
打破老的言論

懂了嗎

呼 好久= =
打了半小時嗎?
2008-05-04 @ 21:27
迴響 from: 李目白 [訪問者]
戰...

俺...正準備多看點書...

(小孬孬回應法)
2008-05-04 @ 21:28
迴響 from: wilson [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wilson00229

你個小孬孬= =(不要啊~ 倒) 話說目白兄用他的得意絕招 使出閃光 讓我需要可魯回家

話說莊先生現在也不知道跑哪去了
民進黨的犧牲品XD
2008-05-04 @ 21:34
迴響 from: 艾魯 [訪問者]
我是還在唸書啦...偶爾還可以看見疑似朝內行人或OO洞(還是X城)走去的虐殺這樣~XD
回文討論要用這種語氣的話,我寧願繼續看可以讓我科科笑的文章就好。
2008-05-05 @ 01:33
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
結果妳只是在闡述一堆有的沒的
害我還認真了一下 一個一個批
等妳決定好妳的立場 再來論吧

另外就是
就資值就天資就基本環境
中國人沒有比不上西方人
但是為什麼結果還是比不上西方人?
唉... 真不知妳是裝傻 還是不知道

而且根據妳的說法,妳認為 中國人變不變強
中國人改不改變 都一樣
反正幾十年後都是一盤沙 對吧,
既然是一盤沙, 妳又何必對於 "妳有沒被別人貶低" 做探討?

首先看妳怎樣定義權威 還有資本
我說嘛, 柏楊本身就一種權威
如果朱老大反權威 就不會在這邊貼柏楊的文章

而某些人 因為蠢蠢的反權威
因為朱老大本身也是一種權威
所以就盲目的反朱老大....

那個比喻有哪裡不適用?
首先先修正妳的比喻吧
雞可以生蛋 也可以生小雞
對於飼養者 是很有價值的資產
猴子嘛 雖然價值更高 但是只要猴子一開始不聽話 就沒用了
所以一定是 猴子先被砍 然後 雞兒們在那邊說 不關我們的事情

那為什麼很適用妳呢?
因為朱老大提倡有能力的人替沒能力的人說話
也就是猴子替雞說話 (哈哈,朱老大變猴子了)
而妳呢,就是那只說不關我們的事情的雞
甚至於不分青紅冒出來說 朱老大講得不對的雞

唉, 這年頭....
2008-05-05 @ 05:15
迴響 from: nihilist [訪問者]
老實說我看不懂上面兩位在戰啥=.=
只是關於"中國人是一盤散沙"
我想說"地球人真是一盤散沙"
現在所謂的"團結"都是拿來跟另一團在拼生死,
沒人想過自己這一團和另一團也應該要"團結"在一起,
與其這種"中國人要團結"=>"台灣人要團結"=>"南部人要團結"的這種團結,
我寧願當散沙,

直到"地球人外星人異世界人未來人超能力者要團結"!!!!

阿宅要團結!!!!!!
2008-05-05 @ 13:26
迴響 from: wilson [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wilson00229
其實我沒什麼立場
所以應該也不該回應
是我錯了(一鞠躬)
因為我的立場就是不知道中的不知道(或者是什麼是真的就應該遵守 但什麼又是真的)
所以你的意思是你知道嚕
如果你知道
那請解釋
(我並不想用強硬的態度說話...可是呢 那我想我應該用請教的方式)
請問r大 你認為我們應該遵循的價值觀是?

是啊
我當然知道為什麼中國人比不上西方人
但要說是哪方面啊
不要說就是比不上
也該分析是哪方面吧
當然團結是比不上
但又是哪方面的團結
那又說回來
團結又如何
最後的結果是什麼
如果你說過程才重要
那我覺得是沒結果過程也是無意義的(這就是個人認知的問題了)

我不是說一盤沙
而且也不是單指中國人
任何生物都一樣
在一定時間過後都不會再是原來的樣子

是不需要作探討
因為沒意義
我說那句話是為反對而反對(XD抱歉)
連我現在再回應是都沒什麼意義
只不過無聊打發時間求個認同吧
所以如果你沒回應我也不覺得如何(當然這是個人感覺)
因為也許你回應的機會成本比我大

沒錯
需要定義
是我疏忽了
你真的不知道我說的權威是什麼嗎(瞇)
當然可以有很多定義
好 那我定義一下
不過就是社會上既得利益者嘛
很簡單啊
在上位者
主管 之類的 當然還會有點模糊
不過不要那麼計較
不然會定義不完XD

你這樣說猴跟雞也很難說
要看情況而定
不過我大概懂你的意思
我拿朱老大的比喻來說好了
雞就像村民 生產 很簡單
猴像是更高階層的士兵(好我承認沒完過星海 我只會世紀)
當穩定之後
猴子的把戲可以賺得更多
那也很難說不是嗎
其實呢
個個比喻其實都不能互相比喻
因為本來就不相同
只是能夠稍微罷了

還有啊
我哪裡看得出來是說朱老大不對了
而且哪來不分青紅皂白
請指教
我自認很準確的闡述我的想法
並沒有加什麼感情 或反什麼人(當然你要說誰說你沒反 你反權威之類的 那就探討不完了 就是這樣)
該說的說了
現實是怎樣
個人個人看到的不一樣
我不是你
我看不到你看到的
子非魚 焉知魚之樂

不要一直指責我所沒有做的東西
謝謝
2008-05-05 @ 14:55
迴響 from: r [訪問者]
價值阿...說起來很複雜了 妳想知道哪部分?
簡單來說
大約是'真正的自由是有限度的自由'
也可以'真正的自由是以不侵犯他人自由為範圍的'
anyway ... 應該是國父有說過,可是不確定到底最原始的版本是啥

呵呵,只能說是一個弔詭吧
當"過程"是最重要的話一被說出
有被真正執行的話, 結果是必然的
既使短期內 頭幾次的結果是不好的
終究會導向一個好的結果, (如果過程真的有被追求到極制,有被視為最重要的部分)
這個嘛, 說過程不重要 就有兩種了
因為評論 跟 真實的執行一件事情 兩者相差很多
評論時可以採取結果論的看法
可是真正要做事時, 又豈能不看重過程?
不看重過程 只會造成 self-fulfilling prophecy ... 雖然這比較常用在心理學上
舉個例吧
妳覺得過程不重要 因此從來沒仔細要求 沒仔細做好
當結果出來時 當然是反映沒仔細要求 沒仔細做好 的後果
可是妳卻說"妳看,過程不重要吧,既使怎樣都會造成這樣的結果"
這不是妳自己替自己下了一個綁死自己的預言嘛?

任何生物的確都會死亡
可是在死亡之前 還沒死的時候 該是怎樣呢? 該怎樣做呢?
因為都會死 所以不需要種樹了..反正到時候也是一盤沙?
因為都會死 不如種棵樹讓後人乘涼吧 ... 反正到時候也是一盤沙?
要採取消極 還是積極的做法 是由個人自行取決的.

是的,每個人都有機會成本的
但是如果對於妳有幫助,我想得利會大於花費掉的機會成本

恩....這樣說吧 每一個人都是社會既得利益者
每一個人都有從社會獲利 所以也都是既得利益者
我覺得.. = = 妳有說快要等於沒說了
oh well ... 要由我來說嘛
我會說不適當/錯誤的既得利益者.. 可是這一說下去 要解釋怎樣為不適當
那可又長了...

妳沒玩過星海阿...不然用星海解釋其實很好

恩...原來是誤會嘛
2008-05-06 @ 04:54
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恩...很難回應
要思考一下

這2句話我是同意啦
所以你說我們應該遵循的就是自由嚕
那...只要不侵犯他人的自由就是自由了嗎

他人的自由又是什麼
不侵犯他他人的自由嗎...無限迴圈中...

所以說...
結果要是什麼呢
總要有個目標吧
因為有目標
所以結果值得努力
那目標是什麼

積極或消極
實際上如果變沙之後來看是沒什麼多大意義
我是這麼覺得
最多啦
前人種樹後人乘涼
如此而已吧

所以我說啊
是定義的問題
你也可以說他們是我們人民的公僕啊
恩...看到這一段突然浮起一個想法
來到這個世界走一趟就是利益不利益的問題嗎?
如果是這樣的話
那我寧願不要來= =

星海啊
年紀比較小所以不是我們那個年代的主流(?)
現在應該算是盎來?
但是話又說回來
我也不玩PSP跟NDS啊...(大概是三級貧戶的關係吧... 不是啦 就沒有那種環境吧)

呵呵
誤會蠻大的
還有啊
不是沒做的東西
是沒做的事 XD
下線後一直很在意那個措辭 XD
2008-05-06 @ 12:48
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要也要說些
比方說 有一千萬根頭髮 是有頭髮, 少一根 也是有頭髮
在迴圈一千萬次之後, 0 根頭髮 還是 有頭髮
之類的吧 lol

這樣說吧
這個世界本來就是利益相互衝突
打從妳出生 妳就已經在從社會中獲得利益了
唯一能較少 involve 利益的就是 愛,信仰 之類的東西
可是又能有多少愛是不牽涉到利益?
ps.利益為廣義定義, 非單單金錢 不動產

anyway ... 這是事實
另外 這個議題 也很像 altruism ...
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所以是這樣我才不喜歡啊
利益來利益去
煩得要命

P.S基本上我覺得如果說到這裡應該就沒有繼續討論下去的必要了
因為你我的觀念已經可以合在一起了
就是利益世界 就醬
剩下就是個人選擇罷了
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