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又有投書來徵求阿宅顧問解答了! (13719 views)
     

事務所開了半天,好不容易我們終於要真正幫人解決問題了!

這是一個跟人生有關的問題。

而且今天我在路邊買了根香腸吃!

Follow up:

第一次寄信給你,深感惶恐
 在下小護士,是半個阿宅,平日喜愛沉淺於你的BLOG
 對於朱大事務所裡發表的見解(尤其是對於李家同杯杯部分)
 打從心底佩服跟贊同!
 於是鼓起勇氣打信給你,希望你能為我解惑。
 以下的內容可能有點嚴肅
 請你諒解。

 我妹妹今年考大學,上了XX大的休閒管理系
 大家都認為這個系所並沒有一技之長可言
 希望她可以力拼距離放榜當時還有一個月的警專
 如果警專沒有考上那就重考
 因為妹妹是個沒有恆心毅力的人,外加個性活潑喜愛交友結黨(沒有定性)
 因此,我力勸我父母不要讓他重考
 而是讓他覺得自己沒有退路了去力拼警專
 容許我在這裡解釋一下理由
 警專有點類似小型的大學學測,考的科目都一樣
 只是通過第一階段還有第二階段的體適能和面試(第二階段並不困難)
 警專唸完只有專科學歷,要拼國家特考,三年內沒考上要還學校(政府)學費
 希望她如果考上了,就把繳學費的錢拿去補特考。
  
 他國中考高中的時候曾經跟我爸爸說過他想要去念護專
 當時我爸爸認為我當護士很辛苦,於是拒絕她
 將他送去私立女子高校唸書
 剛開始成績像兔子一樣衝刺的非常不錯
 他自己也慢慢對自己非常有信心念的很開心很有成就感
 大家都認為當初把他送去唸高中是對的決定
 在高三的中途她睡著了,一覺醒來她就到了XX大休閒管理系了!

 我們一直覺得這個決定是"為他好"
 但是他不領情的一直抗拒革命,想要跟同屆的同學一起上大學
 覺得重考很丟臉,覺得自己無法支撐下去,覺得自己警專考不上等
 竭盡自己的一切跟家裡對抗
 怪大家當初為什麼要給他去念高中等等的
 ......

 從他放榜到現在我並不責怪他大學考的不好什麼得
 畢竟我真的從以前就認為他好像不太會唸書
 我一直跟他說,跟全家說
 我在乎的是他從大學學測考差這件事裡學習到了什麼?
 有沒有去想過應該要為自己的決定負起責任
 如果沒辦法為自己的未來做決定,把決定全推給別人之後
 那是不是應該要為自己的無能負責?
 而不是在走上別人幫你選擇走了左邊的路,走不順了
 才在責怪為什麼不走右邊就好?

 我不知道今天我們一直覺得"為他好"的決定是不是真的是為他好?
 我不知道今天我一直跟他說的"為自己負責任"是不是變成一種討人厭的說教?
 我不知道今天我們到底有沒有那個資格去告訴她
 因為我去工作過,我了解學歷的重要,我知道看人臉色的辛苦
 我知道過生活的辛苦,所以我希望你走大家認為是為你好的路?

 朱大:
 我這樣是不是變成所謂討人厭愛說教又自以為是的大人?
 
 PS:我也有寄信給吳警員的家屬,只不過太匆忙忘記拍照(冏)
 
                       敬祝   安康快樂
                              茫然小護士上


我的回答可能不會很長。

你妹妹有幾百萬種理由抱怨和反抗你們的決定。

因為那是「你們」的決定。如果不自己付出代價,是無法理解代價的沈重的。

你一直抱著她走,她永遠有理由怪你抱她走錯了方向。

你有資格告訴她人生的歷練,但她有資格不聽。

她的決定很有可能是錯的,但你們要讓她十年之後還是怪你們當初替她挑錯了方向嗎?

如果十年之後,她體會到是她自己的選擇讓她的人生走向不一樣的方向,她可以為了自己的選擇後悔,但她要怎麼替別人的選擇而後悔?

我建議你把你們考慮的原因說清楚之後,就放她自由吧。

但你們不見得要替她付大學的學費。畢竟,這是她第一次付出代價的開始。

Lucifer

啊,我可以把你的來信在去除個人資料之後貼出來嗎?我想其他阿宅會有各種不同看法的。

畢竟我的看法也只是一種而已,千萬不可輕易相信!

請各位阿宅踴躍提供意見!

幹今天吃根香腸怎麼半夜在肚子痛~~~

該死的香腸還是有牌子的耶......

底下是史旺基不敢告白的對象果子!

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迴響(644)

迴響 from: elaine [訪問者]
還沒睡耶
2008-09-06 @ 00:44
迴響 from: 秋名山之恥 [訪問者]
甩尾先搶再看...
2008-09-06 @ 00:46
迴響 from: 蕉皮馬奇朵 [訪問者]
如果不自己付出代價,是無法理解代價的沈重的
你一直抱著她走,她永遠有理由怪你抱她走錯了方向

上面這兩句話說的太棒了~偶像~大師~神啊
2008-09-06 @ 00:46
迴響 from: 玩魔獸的迪克 [訪問者]
睡前都要看!
2008-09-06 @ 00:52
迴響 from: lulu [訪問者]
香腸有牌子
也要看有沒有過期
保存法正不正確

有時是食物組合不正確
吃了不適合和香腸一起吃的東西
或是自己腸胃的問題

也有可能上天希望你吃素

2008-09-06 @ 00:52
迴響 from: 秋名山之恥 [訪問者]
小孩子永遠要被燙過之後才會知道什麼不能碰...
妳心疼她被燙...就剝奪了他學習為自己行為負責的機會...
每個人都有自己的路要走...放她自由吧...

p.s.我也有寄信...我也忘了拍...冏+1
2008-09-06 @ 00:53
迴響 from: 艾瑞克 [訪問者]
路是自己走出來的!
話說 那張美女圖的人臉比我的還大...
可能要退後好幾步才能看的清楚!
2008-09-06 @ 00:54
迴響 from: 鍾凱西 [訪問者]

深夜抱著賭一睹的心情來看
果真看到朱大的新文章
讓我想睡的精神為之一振
是說朱大還沒睡啊(重點放錯)

總之 我今年也是個剛考上大學的新生
完全同意朱大的看法
很多路總是自己走才覺得特別顛簸
自己做的決定就得為其後果負責!

2008-09-06 @ 00:57
迴響 from: 綾小路我月 [訪問者]
吼吼吼 顧看馬蓋先 這邊搶到
2008-09-06 @ 01:00
迴響 from: 綾小路我月 [訪問者]
修改上面末句 "這邊沒搶到"
2008-09-06 @ 01:01
迴響 from: UV [訪問者]
以下是敝人一點點淺見

學歷是一條路
去工作並學習態度是一條路
好好想想再決定方向也是一條路

但爲了丟臉不丟臉的問題決定下一個十年或二十年
至少對我來說是不值得的

我個人一直相信
不管你選擇了什麼
只要好好去做自然會有回報
不管是有形的也好
無形的也好

我想這個時候您可以對令妹說的是
爲自己負責任不是只有養活自己
而是一種看待自我生命的態度

希望她今天不管"想唸"或"不想念"
若自己選擇了"要念"

就要收起某些性格或不愉悅的心情, 去把自己選擇的事情完成
這才是努力, 而我相信她以後也會爲自己的努力感到十分驕傲



說是淺見, 結果又臭又長
真的很歹勢啦


2008-09-06 @ 01:01
迴響 from: NBB [訪問者]
我就是那種家庭出來的
家裏的教育方式非常高壓
我則是耗了十幾年與之對抗
最後
誰都沒贏

現在
我過著自己不好不壞的生活
就算當初向壓力屈服現在會不會更好
其實也是個很大的問號
就結果而論
算是兩敗俱傷吧
誰也沒讓對方屈服於自己的主張
徒留下或多或少的些許遺憾

不過我的想法是
與其硬要對方接受你的想法
不如讓他自己去走走看
或許會走出一條意想不到的路
如果走不通
人生三十之前其實是有著無限的機會的
只要你願意去嘗試或修正
(過了三十請多拜拜)

我只是想說
小鳥你若不放他用自己的翅膀去嘗試飛翔
他是永遠沒辦法了解天空有多開闊

希望對你有幫助

P.S. 阿母!!! 哇底加!!!!!!!
2008-09-06 @ 01:07
迴響 from: elaine [訪問者]
我一直都覺得啊...學習(成長)的過程跟侏儸紀公園裡的母恐龍一樣
總是會找到自己的出路,只是不知道是什麼時候

我覺得考上什麼系所是其次,重點是她喜不喜歡、她知不知道自己的興趣在哪裡?這個社會上學歷很重要,但也不是都只需要同一種閃著抬澄青椒光芒的人

警專的環境,不是每個人都能適應的,我有朋友唸警大,每次提到"畢業"他都會說大學四年"出來以後",對他來說大學四年是不怎麼美妙的,即使他現在工作不錯薪水很好,但他還是一心一意要脫離警界

警專跟警大的狀況也許不能相提並論,但我想說的是不管哪種選擇都一定會有得失,請令妹自己好好想清楚她到底知不知道自己要什麼?

往往我們都很清楚自己不要什麼,但卻不知道什麼才是自己要的
也許她也不是喜歡現在考上的學校,只是討厭家人給她的壓力吧

站在她的角度跟她溝通看看吧 ^^

---------
像我就愛賭氣,明天要自己出國玩,明明就愛迷路又英文爛
被朋友放鳥就不要去就好了嘛,我是在耍什麼任性?
這篇會不會是我最後一次的留言啊?!
還好有搶到頭香,我會安息的
朱大拜拜...堅強兩個字先借我用用吧
2008-09-06 @ 01:07
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
我想"學非所用"的人一堆吧......也就是說沒有人規定唸了什麼科系就一定得往哪個方向走。我對"對自己負責"這句話的解讀是:對自己的選擇負責!

而我的感覺是,小護士姐姐也不過是以大人的角度希望改變妹妹的看法罷了。



我一路走來跌跌撞撞,但我從不為自己所做的選擇後悔。
人生是一段漫長的旅程,沒有人知道在旅程中會遇見什麼樣的人事物,可是人生就是因為這樣才顯得有趣,就讓她走自己選擇的路,她才有可能遇見註定是她的那個人生。
2008-09-06 @ 01:09
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
路是人自己走出來的

幫她開條康莊大道只是讓她將來走不出一條屬於自己的道路
況且妳也有屬於妳自己的路要走,沒辦法幫她開一輩子的路

試著讓她學會自己走
或許她會特別感激妳




硍,這樣寫感覺在看人間衛視,完全不像我的風格......
來去看蓬萊衛視~
2008-09-06 @ 01:13
迴響 from: 塔塔加 [訪問者]
如果只打電動....你會變成....
如果只唸書....你會變成....
如果一邊唸書,一邊打電動....你會變成....
如果常常打電動,偶爾唸書....你會變成....
如果常常唸書,偶爾打電動....你會變成....

但不管你變成什麼,你總要能自己想辦法張羅些吃的、穿的、用的....
而且慾望有多強,自己就要能張羅到那些數量....

只要生活不靠別人,(在道德下)不妨礙別人....那你愛變什麼變什麼....

喜歡天天吃包子、啃香腸....也是很多人羨慕的呢!

(唉~認真就輸了...我果然是大叔..不是阿宅..)


2008-09-06 @ 01:16
迴響 from: 沒有沒有 [訪問者]
果子的頭好大 好大 好大


話說香腸還是吃路邊買的比較好吃 要不然就是去豬肉攤買

每次吃有牌子的總是沒滋沒味
2008-09-06 @ 01:18
迴響 from: 黃毛 [訪問者]
給小護士:給你妹妹建議, 但由她自己選擇. 人生如果開始有了主見, 就應該要為自己的選擇負責. 旁人可以給經驗談但不需要強指一定得怎麼作才是 "對" 的.

給不敢告白:那不然想辦法誘導正妹來看朱大的 blog, 那就可以不親口告白但還是告白了(阿宅都要這樣不敢親口告白嗎?)
2008-09-06 @ 01:19
迴響 from: nidor [訪問者]
我覺得,決定是她自己的。但是一個好的決定,需要很多的database。
我認為你妹妹最需要的,應該是很多故事,各種各樣人的故事。他們曾經做過的決定,走過的路,如何影響了他們的未來,這樣子的故事。聽過了這樣各種各樣的故事之後,讓她決定一個自己的方向。

人生不一定要走在常軌,但是走常軌有它的好處。走那種沒人走過的小徑需要很多勇氣與毅力,但是只要意志堅定,也是走得心甘情願,無怨無尤。

硬要別人走在自己認定的常軌上,卻傷害了彼此的關係,這種傷害往往比任何可能的收穫都要高。愛才能讓人前進,恨往往只會讓人墮落。
2008-09-06 @ 01:28
迴響 from: 楓雪 [訪問者]
自己的人生,讓她自己做決定吧
不去干涉別人人生才是正途


ps。這麼大張臉是要看毛孔用的嗎
2008-09-06 @ 01:33
迴響 from: 思路異常清晰的失眠者 [訪問者]
這種題目其實沒有標準答案的。
單純的為他人好並不見得有益處,但可能人都會有這一面,所以成不了神。
我是個信仰基督的人,請原諒我以聖經的思維看待這件事,我個人很害怕向神如同拜拜般的求任何事,因為若是有所應許很可能會是出乎期待外的痛苦過程,且其結果可能給了所期待的結果或是藉著過程讓自己認知到當初所求是不應該的,總之會有結論,無論好壞。
教小孩的過程裡往往我們盡其所能的給予最好的,甚至以我們所能理解認知的路給予引導安排,但心裡面很清楚,這可能是錯誤的做法,舉例來說,即使小心避免他成為阿宅,他還是很有可能因為逛到朱大的阿宅事務所而變成阿宅,而且是個熱血宅,但有可能以後真的會是個阿宅出頭天的年代。
不知如何是好?學學神,放手讓他自己去經歷,有人願意隨時看顧接納他就是他最大的福分了。
2008-09-06 @ 01:35
迴響 from: 海海海 [訪問者]

給小護士:你長得可愛嗎 ?

ps 指甲油沒擦好哦
2008-09-06 @ 01:37
迴響 from: 研究生宅女 [訪問者]
我看到以下這一段有點想法:「如果沒辦法為自己的未來做決定,把決定全推給別人之後 那是不是應該要為自己的無能負責?而不是在走上別人幫你選擇走了左邊的路,走不順了,才在責怪為什麼不走右邊就好?」你妹本來有決定要念護校啊,是你們拒絕她的決定,難道你們不該為自己的決定負責嗎?出一張嘴就可以決定別人的人生嗎?
我老實說,我念政大文院,今天你妹就算念高中一路考到跟我一樣的科系,政大,不錯耶。老實說,你妹畢業的時候一樣會恨你們,因為我同學一出社會最多只有兩萬八,比護專畢業的護士還少,而且工作加班並不會比護士輕鬆,除了不用輪班,考上好大學找個一般工作就一定好嗎?當護士真的不好嗎?面臨社會現實的時候,工作都很辛苦,那當然選錢多的,這樣來看反而竟然是護士較好,就算是今天你妹很會唸書,如果變成這類局面,看錯的你們該怎麼辦?就像Ptt上之前有一對父母叫小孩大學選生科,結果畢業時發現台灣生科沒有出國念,根本沒有出路,結果此父母出錢叫小孩去日本念語言學校,結果小孩雖考到1級執照.但生科加上日文仍沒有用,此人有一些自己的想法,但是父母認為自己的眼光才是正確的,事實上父母的選擇在當時也沒錯錒,誰知到熱門的生科在廣設科系後會變這樣,他父母也不知道日文一級證書其實不稀奇,父母對就業的投資眼光全部失敗.到底誰要負責?
我弟就是這樣被我家人影響了,叫他做醫生,念三類,但他其實適合念社會組,結果念不下去,在附中從三轉二類(家人還是不能接受念社會組),最後真的崩潰了,又從二轉一,每年一轉,成為附中一大奇人。最後考上東海,家人千百次的懊悔,因為他其實本來如果一開始念一類,至少也是國立前幾名(他最後一年成績衝超快,只是時間不夠),這到底要怪誰?當然小孩很厲害的話,又可以像我弟最後考到成大研究所,可是不是每個人都可以這樣的,有時人生走錯了就回不去了,我家人認為女生念社會組就好,好啊,我念了,結果現在一直被家人酸,怎麼賺這麼少,為什麼不考公務員,不當老師(啊就個性不合嘛)所以奉勸你們不要太干涉你妹的志向,不是說你們的關心他不對,而是我們不能確定我們的看法都是適合對方的。你認為你們替他選的人生是最順遂的人生,我覺得那是一種對人生的傲慢。抱歉,想到過去種種,不覺有些激動。


2008-09-06 @ 01:39
迴響 from: 失憶老人 [訪問者]
Re 迴響來自: 塔塔加 [訪問者]
如果只打電動....你會變成.... 「破關高手阿宅?」
如果只唸書....你會變成.... 「很會考試的阿宅?」
如果一邊唸書,一邊打電動....你會變成.... 「破關高手+很會考試的阿宅?」
如果常常打電動,偶爾唸書....你會變成.... 「破關高手+不太會考試的阿宅?」
如果常常唸書,偶爾打電動....你會變成.... 「不太會破關+很會考試的阿宅?」




對不起我忍不住………XD

2008-09-06 @ 01:39
小護士妳好,我個人是這麼覺得啦,學歷固然是重要,但是找到自己未來要走的路是更為重要的.妳妹妹之所以會有所抱怨,我想大概是因為她還找不到自己未來想走的路.又或許是她想走的路將會非常的崎嶇,她自己也不知道是否能持續的走下去,然後看到你們這些已經有目標的人對她說教,所以她才會有這樣的反彈吧.

人生是很漫長的,要決定自己未來要走的路是一件極不容易的事,有些人運氣好年輕時就發現了,而有些人則是一直到死前都未必知道自己真正想走的路是什麼.所以家人的關懷是很重要,試著去聽看看她的理想是什麼,她想做什麼事,就算她的理想再怎麼的荒謬也不要否定她,畢竟沒人知道她最後是否一定會成功或失敗,但如同朱大所說的,要付出代價才會有所收穫.而且由她自己決定付出的代價,最後她自己也才能得到真正的收穫.

ps:如果無法坐下來好好談的話那就好好吵一架吧,有時候吵一架反而可以聽到真心話呢.
2008-09-06 @ 01:43
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
我只覺得兒孫自有兒孫福....適時警告他,聽不進去也是造化= =

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沒想到魯西法朱居然為了轉移話題認真解謎,真奸啊A_A
2008-09-06 @ 01:53
迴響 from: metalbh [訪問者]
嗯,我想
為家人好是很正常的,
但是人生是自己的,
未來會發生什麼其實沒有人能知道
現在大家所作的"覺得為別人好"的決定
也只是經驗法則下的產物
可是如果不好了
誰能負責?
人生是你妹的
他要是照了你們的路走而不好
他會不會一輩子怨你?
這樣又何必
或許他沒照你們想要走的路而導致接下來不順
那這是他的選擇,
是他應該要承擔的.
我覺得建議要給,因為這是身為家人朋友該做的
但是不要勉強,畢竟你無法還他一個人生
人生中每個選擇都很重要
而只有在很久很久以後才能夠去判定說當初選的是對是錯
以上
2008-09-06 @ 01:54
迴響 from: Z.M. [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/zong-ming/
說一個 我老媽 跟我二舅舅的故事

我老媽 高職畢業
我二舅舅 大學中文系畢業

我老媽 20多年前晚上讀夜校 白天工作 寄錢回家裡
我二舅舅 20多年前年輕時 拿著家裡的錢 白天讀大學

我老媽 告訴二舅舅讀中文沒有前途 北上兩次勸他轉系唸英文
我二舅舅 告訴我老媽 唸中文是他的理想 寫書他的目標

我老媽 現在經歷人生起伏 獨立撫養兩個孩子 現在經營事業穩定
我二舅舅 現在正在經歷人生起伏 兩個孩子由老婆扶養 失業中

我老媽 曾經死了老公 又嫁了老公 曾經負債累累 現在衣食無虞
曾經努力工作 但是卻沒有收入 現在為理想工作 有了報償

我二舅舅 曾經大學畢業高人一等 但苦於現實壓力 步入保險事業
曾經寫書出書 但卻沒有報償 現在舅媽癌症 經濟困難

這個故事告訴我們什麼
1.有些事 聽聽長輩的意見 也不錯 但要讓自己決定
2.如果是自己的理想 就堅持下去吧 就算苦 也是你的決定
3.人生很真實 很殘酷 很不可預料 不到最後 誰能認為自己是幸福?
2008-09-06 @ 01:56
迴響 from: Z.M. [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/zong-ming/
4.你又怎麼能決定 別人的幸福 (補充)
2008-09-06 @ 01:59
迴響 from: 草莓社 Strawberry Club [訪問者]
這根本不公平!大家說讓她自己做決定,卻沒有想過她有沒有「受過做決定的專業訓練」!有沒有替她想過她會不會不知道要怎麼選?

她還那麼小,自己做了決定就逼她要對自己一輩子負全部責任,有沒有想過她可能承受不住或者根本搞不清楚自己在幹嘛?有沒有在她聽得進去的時候分析給她聽每一種決定的代價是什麼?朱恐龍一直在講代價,如果沒有教她代價是什麼,就一味要求她付出代價,我覺得真是「太超過了」!

我舉雙手雙腳贊同小護士身為人姊為妹妹好的心情和責任感。但是,當你要賣別人一樣東西的時候,要先讓人家有興趣啊!要抓到客戶會動心的「眉角」而不是老王賣瓜自賣自誇,自己義憤填膺得要命。小護士如果執意要替妹妹洗腦,行銷的手段和管道要再研究一下。

最後分享個人的小故事:我在六年前幫妹妹做了轉學、選校和選系的決定,替家裡省了七位數的金錢。今日她衣食無虞、意氣風發,為專業人士並享有良好社經地位。她感謝我,很多人也說我是她的貴人。可是最該死的是她老姊至今一事無成、苟且偷生,同時遲遲不能為自己的前途做判斷和決定,也沒有男朋友只能躲在家當假笑阿宅。如果朱恐龍是對的,這就是不做決定的代價!

ps.草莓社金牌選手想尋人:2000年景美女中畢業、在王啟民數學補習的何曼瑄小姐,她的姊姊叫何曼莊。草莓跟景女小曼互相喜歡,無奈因故失聯;彼此的信件往返都陰錯陽差沒到對方手裡。敬請善心人士代為協尋!小曼我要跟妳說:我愛你。
2008-09-06 @ 02:05
迴響 from: 羅賓是我的女神 [訪問者]
史旺雞大師還是沒跟果子告白!?





2008-09-06 @ 02:39
迴響 from: 失憶老人 [訪問者]
這個問題的答案很簡單。

我說說自己的親身經驗好了。
考高中那年我高分落榜,很想重考,我認為自己重考應該能上好學校。但是我哥告訴我有一間名校有夜間部,我一定可以輕鬆考上那間學校的夜間部。
「你是為了讀大學才唸高中的,所以應該選一間讀書風氣好的學校;而不是重考然後也許沒辦法念這間學校。」

我從前一天晚上哭到隔天清晨四點,做了決定,雖然這個決定可抗爭的機率趨近於零。
那三年的求學路程是很心酸的。名校的名氣越大,我們就越是被漠視,以及輕視。
是的,輕視。高三一整年,白天我都在學校圖書館看書;有天圖書館有活動不能使用,我們就到某間教室看書。
不久,後排座位進來2個日間部小高一,開始嚼夜間部的舌根。
我和同學越聽越不入耳,直到一句「他們功課本來就比較差啊」,我們兩人低聲說「走吧」,起立離開那間教室,繼續去另一間為我們自己的人生奮鬥。

後來我的分數,最好也只能填上政大中文、歷史等志願,也算名校了,終於可以真正當個唸名校的人;即使我現在非常討厭名校畢業的人的氣焰。
但是家人希望我填鐵飯碗,甚至連外婆都特地從南部趕來勸導我。

我思考自己到底要什麼?

兩條路各自能夠走出什麼樣的結果?沒有嘗試過我們永遠不知道。
但是我了解自己的個性和能耐,這就夠了。

我最後又選了家人給我「建議」的路,並非因為我好商量,而是考慮過自己才決定的。
不說其他,光是工作的樂趣,到現在還讓我其樂無窮。我覺得工作充滿挑戰,而這些挑戰讓我精神充沛、興致盎然。
是的,我選對了,而那是家人的「建議」。

把決定權留給要過自己人生的那個人吧。

2008-09-06 @ 02:42
迴響 from: 貴妃 [訪問者]
吼~圖大到完全看不出來長甚麼樣,是要我們找"毫髮人"哦....

給小護士:
為什麼不能讓她自己掌握自己的人生呢??
你們雖然是家人,但是你們的見解又一定是對的嗎?人生有很多種可能性阿!
快樂不是建築在名或利這些東西上,未來妳妹妹還會遇到更多可能性,家人的關心固然重要,但是化成默默的助力與支持,也許會更好吧。
護士不好嗎??這行業也是有可以一直往上進修的管道,只是工作比較辛苦;先讓她確定自己想走的路吧,將來還是可以用轉學的方式選擇自己想走的路;我有朋友走休閒管理這行,因為是興趣所以做的很快樂也很賺,不要去對自己不瞭解的產業妄下斷言;警專將來要考特考,妳知道現在特考不好考嗎?要她再一次去面對自己沒有興趣的東西真的很殘忍!
2008-09-06 @ 02:44
迴響 from: 路人很感嘆 [訪問者]
給親愛的小護士:

我是一個再一年就畢業的大學生
我知道你非常擔心你的妹妹
不過我覺得你們的決定不是非常好
她的決定也真的不是非常好
就我所知
現在每個即將或已畢業的大學生
以考公務員為目標的,十個有五六個
你妹妹唸出來,真的會考的上嗎?
這也不一定
(搞不好你說的畢業之後要考的國家考試是不一樣的,可能我不清楚,但我想提醒一下這一點)

我承認休管出來真的不知道要幹麻
畢竟唸這個科系的太多了
而且上的還是南實踐…(好偏遠)
我想如果你真的希望他上警專然後考特考
那倒不如直接去上公職補習班
反正都要考
要不然就重考吧|||

不過剛畢業的妹妹應該不懂你們給她的各種考量
如果她還是想唸
就讓她去吧
她現在還不會懂必須擔心自己以後畢業等於失業
或許她四年後
可以真的為自己這個決定負責
那不是更好?
逼她只會讓她更有藉口不去負責罷了

by現在很後悔我幹麻不國中畢業就去考公務員的路人

2008-09-06 @ 03:04
迴響 from: 失敗的麵 [訪問者]
學歷對成功的人而言,是一個工具,沒有,可以找其他工具代替或是自己想辦法弄一個來。

學歷對失敗的人而言,是他的命,沒有,他就不知道自己的價值為何。

不過成功和失敗沒有一定,失敗的人,或許在其他方面很成功;而成功的人,也有其失敗的地方。

但無論如何,我都會建議讓一個人自己做決定,因為只有當人學會怎樣作出對自己而言最適合的決定,並未這個決定負責,這個人才能夠完整。

前半生我活在別人的決定之中,出了社會,我現在必須慢慢學習如何做決定,因為,再也沒有人會跟我說:這就是標準答案。

就這個故事內的小妹妹而言,我想,不論是他的決定或是家人的決定,都會帶來後悔;因為,我感覺他還沒學會做決定,他也不知道自己該做怎樣的決定,但我知道他想擺脫受別人決定的命運。

如果兩邊的賭盤都是賠,那就讓他自己下注吧!至少,下次他自己做決定的時候,已經有過這次經驗了;不要像我,到了必須自己下決定的時候,還在等著別人告訴我要下什麼決定。
2008-09-06 @ 03:20
迴響 from: 七槌轟雀武 [訪問者]
Ans...就讓她自己去走自己的路
這是她的人生..不是妳的..也不是隔壁老王的
更何況誰也沒辦法保證她的美滿人生
所謂好心的建議並不一定會有好的結果
通往地獄的路是由善意的花朵舖成
放她自由吧..也讓她有走錯路的自由~over

強力懷疑...開頭的香腸照應該是朱大的那個吧...
用PS修改塗上焦痕後放上來的吧
幹...不然怎麼那麼像
我只能說...你真開放唷~
2008-09-06 @ 03:28
迴響 from: Shunnon [訪問者]
我覺得由誰來選擇時在是一個渾沌法則啊
大家的眼光都定在旁人選還是照自己要的路那個才是對的
但是問題並不是誰對誰錯這麼簡單
給意見的人憑什麼給意見?是經驗?有沒有隨時間更新觀念?還是雜七雜八聽誰說某科系好就強押孩子去唸?至少我知道很多長輩腦袋真是孔鼓力,哪個鄰居給個隨便的意見也當寶,當然也有長輩會深思熟慮給出合宜的意見
相同的晚輩可能因為情緒問題也可能經驗不足會做出對未來出路不太好的決定,也有些人真的是把自己喜歡的發揚光大(但到這邊就是家人知不支持的問題了)
所以今天諾要去強爭誰的意見是對的不如找個時間跟晚輩好好談一下
切忌長輩跟晚輩說會話常常會有神經出竅變成說教最後變成強辯又拐成面子問題這種不合邏輯的怪事
我只是根據過往的經驗有此一說, 像我家怪老頭大醫生一個,可是平常的知識全是看八卦報仔來的,有些東東真的很離譜還相信的一愣一愣最後給我的意見真是不敢恭維,還要時時check我有沒有照他話去做(真行的話,記者們全都是專門領域的專家了,那哪天怪老頭就不要上工嘛,直接找個記者幫他去開刀就好)...這又是一個長輩亂出意見找晚輩麻煩的例子了
反正我的意思是說,聽誰的沒有誰對誰錯,如果做了決定不堅持的話,聽誰的到最後結果都不會好到哪去
2008-09-06 @ 03:57
迴響 from: 委員長 [訪問者]
我自己本身就是警專的學生,我強烈建議大家不要來讀警專正期,

早年讀警專是為了當警察,但近年來警專生他媽的一點競爭力都沒有,

話說警專是公費學校,難道讀公費學校就不用付出代價嗎?

大家都以為公費生很好,其實公費生說穿了就是「跟國家簽賣身契」,

在學校裡面什麼命令都要服從,因為我們每個月領國家一萬四,

當別人還在放假,警專生就要提前回到學校在太陽底下出操,因為我們每個月領國家一萬四,

公費生看似很爽,根本沒有自由,因為每個月領國家一萬四千元,什麼事都要做,

這並不是要哭訴警專有多苦,只是很多家長都不知道自己小孩多麼想當大學生,

家長為自己小孩想,但去唸警校的畢竟是小孩,不是父母,

小孩自己不會想,父母可以勸說、說服,但最後要去唸的還是小孩,不是父母,

況且讀警專又不是百分之百能當警察,現在考不過特考的流浪警察一大堆,

讀警專兩年頭腦只會變死,根本不會變得更聰明,

還不如去讀技職學校,或是學得一技之長、考取相關證照,

如果真的想當警察,不要考警專,直接參加特考就好了!何必繞這麼一大圈呢?!
2008-09-06 @ 04:04
迴響 from: bigbibi [訪問者]
妳好:
我75年次 大學剛畢業 先來提提我兩位好友...

我有一位國中好友(女)
他高中唸餐飲 唸完念二專 再唸花蓮某校的二技休閒觀光學系
我想光是聽到他高中唸餐飲就夠讓不少人先入為主看不起了吧?
不過他現在二專畢業了 再某旅行社當業務 過的挺好的 至少沒聽他抱怨薪水如何如何

另外我有一位國中好友(男)
他高中也是唸餐飲 唸完念二專 再唸某校的二技餐飲相關學系
在我對著電腦科科笑的時候他在實習的時數也累積不少了
現在在東區某複合式餐飲店的內場從基層做起 倒也是過的不錯 至少有穩定的收入

我想你妹妹在學歷上不管怎樣都比他們好吧?
同樣都是相關學系的 我朋友混的不錯 相信你妹也可以!
但是前提是 他要去接受這個學系 打從內心接受並且為它付出
如果真的不喜歡這個學系 還可以轉系阿
別忘了是可以從南實踐是轉到北實踐的!
我想你妹應該是捨不得週遭的同齡好友吧 所以才跟家裡對抗...
轉系(轉到北實踐)也是一條不用重考的路!

另外插播一下
我大學時期有個學妹大一念到一半就因為一些原因去念官校了(還是軍校?有點忘了)
在那裡面生活作息都有嚴格的規範 依您的描述我並不覺得她可以負荷管教如此嚴苛的環境
三思!三思!

最後 有空可以找看看劉墉的"你自己決定吧"一文
我覺得還蠻有正面助益的啦!

祝 順心
2008-09-06 @ 04:14
迴響 from: 福 [訪問者]
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=KTMBixFvRQU
這段影片來自(天下影音 "海闊天空的一代--教改10年後")

特別注意一下,十年後賴茹君的心得,尤其是在10:38

這就可以看出徵結點,
長輩看的是未來(天堂or地獄),
晚輩看的是快樂(短暫or永恆)。

這無誰對誰錯,因為真的很多事,不去親身經歷過,就不知道對錯

重點決定了目標,就要全力以赴,因為這是人生的戰鬥

2008-09-06 @ 04:32
迴響 from: Sunny [訪問者]
有個人,國立大學電機系畢業,不務正業,跑去當翻譯,賺了筆錢,現在改行當宅王。

念完某大學或某科系,就一定決定了未來人生嗎?大學不過是人生中的四年而已。當長輩的,是在晚輩有困惑時,他來找你,你給他適時的安慰、指引與支援,這樣就可以了。說不定他會更感激你。

宅王的人生歷程,有人看過,有人沒看過。宅海羅盤,人生導師,星星盤子掛上去,來場現身說法如何?
2008-09-06 @ 07:22
迴響 from: Jm [訪問者]
果子這張太大了
我的螢幕又小……整個看不清楚………~_~
2008-09-06 @ 07:34
迴響 from: james [訪問者]
寫得很棒,很多父母的確都習慣性把自己認為好的東西或想法,去強迫子女接受。然而,人生又不是只有一種選擇(如果是這樣就好了@@~),父母覺得好的也不見得就一定適用在每個子女的身上。

有空歡迎來我的無名與痞客邦坐坐!

3/4債務世界(淪陷的經濟)!
全世界80%的財富來自於債務!


網址:

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/jamesz1010

http://jamesz.pixnet.net/blog/

歡迎來坐坐和交流^^
2008-09-06 @ 08:09
迴響 from: palm [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ruaypapa
迴響來自: 草莓社 Strawberry Club [訪問者]
這根本不公平!大家說讓她自己做決定,卻沒有想過她有沒有「受過做決定的專業訓練」!有沒有替她想過她會不會不知道要怎麼選?她還那麼小,自己做了決定就逼她要對自己一輩子負全部責任,有沒有想過她可能承受不住或者根本搞不清楚自己在幹嘛?..........
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如果你不放手讓小BABY自己踏出第一步
那他就永遠不會跌倒
但是他永遠也不會自己走路

媽的冽
還有「受過做決定的專業訓練」喔!!!!
哪裡有開這門課ㄚ?????
重修的話
我的人生可以重來嗎!!!!!!!!!
2008-09-06 @ 08:14
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 草莓社 Strawberry Club [訪問者]
這根本不公平!大家說讓她自己做決定,卻沒有想過她有沒有「受過做決定的專業訓練」!有沒有替她想過她會不會不知道要怎麼選?
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有誰有受過做決定的專業訓練?呿~
我們這些旁觀者,頂多都只能夠按照"我們自身的經驗"去幫她分析或是推演一個"可能的未來"。可是也沒有人能夠篤定那個未來一定會如我們所分析或推演的方向發展。
自己喜歡什麼、不喜歡什麼、為什麼要這樣作?難道當事人真的會什麼都不知道?如果她真是個這樣的人,我想也是因為之前家人都保護過度吧。
我眼前有一個正在受專業做決定訓練的例子→我那個快四歲的小姪女。
她三餐不管吃什麼、拿多少量,都可以→但是沒有吃完就知道慘了!(我妹真的是個說的到做的到的狠角色)於是,我小姪女現在學會吃多少才拿多少,也不會浪費食物。自從她會自己拿餐具開始,我妹就不再餵她吃飯,就算她吃的滿身髒兮兮,我妹都說→衣服髒了洗乾淨就好,不要剝奪她學習的機會。(然後對照組是我姐姐同年齡的小孩,現在還要媽媽餵,有些東西還不太會吃)
愛吃零食、正餐吃不下是不是?她們家不會有消夜這種東西→是妳自己選擇要吃零食不吃正餐,我們家不會特別為了妳再煮東西。
她們家的例子多到不勝枚舉,可是她們母女倆感情也好的要命→她女兒對於可以自己作決定這件事感到很開心。她會把每件事分析給她女兒聽(不要再說什麼她還小聽不懂的屁話),但是不論她女兒做什麼她都接受並支持,只是這樣罷了。她女兒現在也是個會自己作四十分鐘娃娃車上課的狠角色,媽媽身體不舒服的時候,還會叫媽媽在家休息,讓爸爸陪她去等娃娃車就好了XD!
如果這是閣下心中"專業做決定訓練",那我可以叫我妹開班授課了XD!
2008-09-06 @ 08:46
迴響 from: 棋子 [訪問者]
這種案例太多,台灣或說是亞洲父母都被這種升學主義所綁架。
我還記得小時候就被娘罵:「書唸不好,以後就去收垃圾。」
更!現在連碩士都在考清潔隊!
簡單一句話:
「自己的選擇,自己才會負責。」
2008-09-06 @ 09:02
迴響 from: 十代目 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/luke1989
一個人的前途應該由她自己決定啊
這位小護士小姐
妳們怎麼知道念休閒管理系沒前途呢?
這觀念太差了吧
我是歷史系小大一
歷史系可以說比休閒管理系更冷門
但我不認為我沒有前途
我也不曾後悔選擇歷史系
而且我對未來的出路也有些規劃了
讓她自己做選擇吧
你們沒資格擅自決定另一個人的人生
當然
所有人都沒資格
2008-09-06 @ 09:06
迴響 from: 摸生 [訪問者]
學歷會隨著離畢業越久而越不重要..
專業能力和處事態度的重要性卻會隨著時間流逝而增加..

有種人是即便你不幫他下任何決定, 事後他還是會怪罪你什麼都沒幫他做..
小護士宅妹唯一要做的事情, 是避免小妹成為你家日後的累贅..
幫她釣魚, 不如給她釣竿..

都沒人要幫史旺基集氣!!人生要減少遺憾啊..
2008-09-06 @ 09:17
迴響 from: wei [訪問者]
我自己是警專畢業的
也服務十初年了
警專到底值不值得去唸 我想是見仁見智
有本事自己不經過警專教育 而直接考上特考
那當然是最好最棒了 也省下一年多時間而直接就業
問題是 到底有多少人有這種能耐直接考上特考呢
我在學校兩年時間受教育 第一年先考四等 第二年我把三等考過
如果問我有辦法不經過學校歷程而直接考特考
我捫心自問我沒這(材調)

當別人再青春熱血時候 我在警專受訓操體能
這時候我已經不需靠家裡金援 一個月有1萬出頭的零用金
還有能力拿錢回家
如今回想起來 我很珍惜國家給我這機會 即使失去了某些自由性
至於人生最重要的把妹經歷 老實說在校時候 假日幾乎邀約不斷
ok 我必須承認對於把妹我是蠻厚顏無恥的
於是學校的教育訓練給了我很健康的體魄 也有零用金可用 也認識了不少正妹
除了與外面一般大專大學院校少了一份自由 多了一些專制管理外 就業根本不用擔心
當然目前體制是有所變化啦 不過珍惜把握眼前所有才是重要課題
如果你覺得警專不適當 老實說可以選擇馬上放棄呀 等特考來時後再去考不就好了
而且說真的 在學校受教育領零用金兩年時間不好好把握準備往後畢業的特考 也說不過去
你在這邊自怨自艾警專的缺點 聽在別人心中是作何感想呢

至於關心畢業後的薪水 當然比上不足就是了
目前我特考過之後 加上加班費 從一開始的五萬多 到目前約7萬左右
養家活口還過的去 走在陽光下也堂堂正正挺的起胸膛
2008-09-06 @ 09:29
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]

讓他自己選吧...
雖然有可能選錯...不過始終是自己的選擇,
選到你認為好的不見得人生就是大好;
選到你認為差的不見得人生就是大壞。
我們只能做準備...不能預測未來,
也許這個工作快樂一點,但是累一點;
也許那個工作辛苦一點,但是輕鬆一點;
也許有個工作又辛苦又不見得快樂,但是酬勞穩定又多一點,
一切一切都是選擇沒有對錯阿。

====================我是分隔線=====================
說到大圖...火狐的 Ctrl+滑鼠滾輪 放大縮小的倍數比較多耶...科科科...
IE 這樣做還是看不到全圖....科科科
2008-09-06 @ 09:44
迴響 from: bFish [訪問者]
我想她到這個年紀了, 應該也要學習自己做決定, 自己對自己的決定負責了, 這應該是很多台灣子女們, 在父母強烈的保護下, 而沒去學習的一件事吧.

我自己算是個過來人, 以前想讀的科系, 在家人溫柔而強力的說服下放棄了, 結果在每次讀的很不好時, 自己總是有藉口說, 我是被逼來讀這個系的, 讀不好要怪家人, 跟自己無關.......但漸漸的覺得這樣下去不是辦法, 只是讓自己愈來愈爛而已. 所以最後就算專科延畢, 還是努力的考上自己喜歡科系的二技.

自己也快要成為人父了, 只希望以後能放的開手, 讓女兒可以從小學習自己做決定, 學習對自己決定負責.....就算她受傷跌倒, 這也是學習必經的過程.....但不知道有沒有辦法狠的下心來, 看來父母也要進化的..
2008-09-06 @ 09:46
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
.....我....我的信箱裡面有何曼莊小姐的信件.....囧....而且據說她有在看本部落格....

Lucifer

幾個月前收到的,若有人需要請跟我聯絡~~~搞不好她妹就真的是你要找的人......這....這世界也太小了吧。
2008-09-06 @ 09:57
迴響 from: TW [訪問者]
http://www.cheers.com.tw/doc/page.jspx?id=40288ab21bfdcf68011c1bd7463c7770

朱大要不要再罵一罵 ?

我已經寫信去表達不滿了...

BTW 抱歉寫在這裡; 我在blog中找不到您的 e-mail; 造成不便請見諒
2008-09-06 @ 10:00
迴響 from: KKO [訪問者]
你圖一定要用那麼大嗎??
2008-09-06 @ 10:13
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
喔喔喔喔喔喔喔太期待了,有人問了關鍵的問題:「你圖一定要用那麼大嗎?」

各位阿宅,這時我們要說什麼?

Lucifer
2008-09-06 @ 10:14
迴響 from: 我們會說 [訪問者]
你是新同學吧?
2008-09-06 @ 10:30
迴響 from: 後排左準備下樓梯 [訪問者]
好可怕的死魚眼

傳給

死望雞
2008-09-06 @ 10:37
迴響 from: 強尼戴噗 [訪問者]
聽說朱恐龍有上過康熙來了,可是我在youtube上都找不到,還蠻想看看朱大那集是怎樣。

話說看了朱大的幾個youtube上的影片,才發現英文說得真溜....是有長期住過國外嗎,不然怎麼可以講的那麼溜啊....
2008-09-06 @ 10:37
迴響 from: 千瀨之火 [訪問者]
沒錯啦...家人管這麼多做啥...
給了意見,不聽就拉倒嘛
唯有自己付出代價的教訓才是真正的教訓
別人身上的教訓只是故事罷了

畢竟人類永遠無法從歷史中學習

我也是休閒系說...幹...爆無聊的...根本是觀光系了
2008-09-06 @ 10:40
迴響 from: 貴妃 [訪問者]
我們是不是應該要求版上公投才對...

贊成縮圖跟不贊成縮圖...
2008-09-06 @ 10:42
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: KKO [訪問者]
你圖一定要用那麼大嗎??
=================
不縮圖的才是男子漢啊XD!
2008-09-06 @ 10:47
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 貴妃 [訪問者]
我們是不是應該要求版上公投才對...

贊成縮圖跟不贊成縮圖.
=================
我想這是朱大的部落格,他有權決定要如何經營它,我是覺得我沒有權過問別人要如何作啦.......囧"



繼續拖地去.....為什麼....為什麼都十點四十分了才剛拖完露台?!
2008-09-06 @ 10:49
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
就算全世界的人都支持縮圖我也不縮圖!

因為男子漢就是要與全世界為敵!

Lucifer
2008-09-06 @ 10:50
迴響 from: ckkc [訪問者]
我想自己的人生還是要自己決定,你又不能幫你妹過她的人生
但是家人的支持也很重要。
跟他好好溝通,交換彼此的想法,但最後的決定權還是交給她自己吧!

---------
我發現美女圖大到一個程度,對美女的感知程度都降低很多...
(這是小螢幕的悲哀嗎)
2008-09-06 @ 10:50
迴響 from: 我們會說 [訪問者]
ninny不虧是班長,永遠有耐心回答正確答案~
2008-09-06 @ 10:53
迴響 from: 邪惡阿宅 [訪問者]

給親愛的護士宅~

家人是最不懂得"尊重"這一回事的。

你愛他、關心他。但請記得不要掌控他。

她是這世界上獨一無二的,她並不需要做別人的影子。

2008-09-06 @ 10:59
迴響 from: 邪惡阿宅 [訪問者]
奇怪,鍵盤按 "Ctrl"+ "-"就可以看啦。
為何要要求縮圖,自己動手即可。

覆議:
既然提到家桶杯杯,那我也要抒發一句九品芝麻官的台詞

家桶杯杯~

我桶你老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的。

打完收工
2008-09-06 @ 11:06
迴響 from: 肉絲馬力 [訪問者]
小護士,愛之適以害之,這句話送給你。
2008-09-06 @ 11:09
迴響 from: ckkc [訪問者]
迴響來自: 邪惡阿宅 [訪問者]
奇怪,鍵盤按 "Ctrl"+ "-"就可以看啦。
為何要要求縮圖,自己動手即可。
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哇!真的欸
邪惡阿宅是真阿宅 好厲害
2008-09-06 @ 11:12
迴響 from: 後排左準備下樓梯 [訪問者]
cKKc+1

我覺得是模特兒的悲哀
被放大解讀
2008-09-06 @ 11:12
迴響 from: TangerineDream [訪問者]
恩...
這我想我可以以一個過來人身分來說
我曾經非常想進入餐飲相關學校
這曾經是驅使我前進的夢想
所以在高中的時候就推甄南部某所頗知名的餐飲學校
不過那時狠狠被學校打了槍,連備取都沒有
(其實我去申請的級數不低,大概是面試分數很慘)
後來在指考時考中了後段班國立大學
但是我總覺得這不是我要的人生
所以後來就重考技職體系的統測
結果就取得入學資格了

所以~我進去讀了嗎?

沒有,最後我回到了指考考上的那所國立後半段大學就讀

為什麼?那我去重考的這一年是在喇賽?
更甚者,那不是我的夢想嗎?
那我為什麼要放棄?不合理吧?

那時候我的理由是,我要看得更多

我了解在餐旅的技職體系裡雖然學的到專業
但是在一般大學我才能看得更多

說白一點我那時還無法為我自己的人生做下賭注
所以我決定選擇比較具有"靈活度"的未來
簡單的說就是當我大學畢業,我還年輕要幹嘛都是可以的
(我很幸運的是家裡並沒有給我經濟上的壓力)

現在我大三
一整個暑假都在考慮未來的事
最後我決定繼續升學讀研究所
那夢想呢?
我決定出社會後自己存錢出國念餐飲
(實現很困難,我也知道機會很渺茫,但即使如此我還是覺得值得一試)


短短幾行字打在螢幕上好像很簡單
但背後卻是我苦思很久,每晚輾轉難眠之後榨出來的想法
那過了三年
我會為當初沒有去讀該鎖餐飲學校而後悔嗎?
我想是不會的
因為那個時候我知道我要的是什麼
也告訴自己
決定之後就不要回頭了
畢竟還沒發生的 是"未來"


**我想對小護士說,我想人生的路上誰也說不準,我絕對沒有資格說我覺得妳妹應該要怎樣做比較好,我覺得比較重要的是,你要告訴你妹人生就是不斷的在做選擇,要冷靜下來,然後慎重的去做決定,決定了之後就never look back

很重要的是要"慎重的去決定",我想你們家的人似乎都還有點草率,感覺好像是憑著既定的想法去做判斷(像說警專真的是好的決定嗎?),就像上面有一篇警專板友的留言,我想你們應該去對做點調查吧,像你們可以透過關係去找來真的讀過警專或南實踐休閒管理系的過來人的看法,真的跟他們坐下來聊一聊,這樣會對實際的狀況比較能掌握一點


對不起很廢話的一篇留言Orz

只是我現在覺得人生太多變化,做了選擇後不一定那個選擇就是你當初所要的,因此我覺得面對的態度會比要選甚麼來的更重要一些
2008-09-06 @ 11:18
迴響 from: bearcr 宅大叔 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/bearcr
TO 小護士

我個人覺得啦....
念什麼學系跟之後有沒有一技之長或是有沒有出路...
還真的是很難去預測!

景氣五年十年一轉,產業結構變來變去...
光是單靠學校唸出來的東西還真的不夠!
我那時候念森林也是賭環保意識抬頭,森林經營會有趨勢性...
天曉得,後來有那麼多替代性系所..很囧

這樣講有點勢利啦!大部分的科系畢業後手上沒幾個相關證照,還真的說不出口自己有什麼專長!
與其擔心念那個系所有沒有前﹝錢﹞途,不如去擔心求學階段有沒有好好的加強能力

至於警專嘛!
對啦!公家飯的確是好捧,不過又是能輕鬆到哪...
你看得到輕鬆的都是老警察不是菜鳥,而且還要看每年收的是什麼科!
我那年去考前後兩年共五年都是收消防科的....
考特考也沒有那麼輕鬆,不考也是可以原職過日子
只是薪水不算高而已!
至於生活交友圈什麼的...比護專還慘就不多說了!

如果你妹真的有心重考,為什麼不讓她去?
就光想著怎麼讓她輕鬆,那如果出去工作是不是你這個老哥也要幫她找輕鬆的工作?
你真的確定所謂的『為她好』真的是『為她好』嗎?﹝科科

總結...
個人認為..可以跟她分析,但要聽聽你妹妹的想法
一股腦的覺得怎樣怎樣對誰都沒有好處,
讓她自己去考量好壞,而不是跟她講哪個好哪個壞
天曉得你的好壞是對或錯...
天曉得往後會發生什麼事?
說不定五六年後,觀光相關科系是台灣最火紅的科系,每個有相關學歷的都可以荷包滿滿
你要你的妹妹到時候在路邊開著罰單一邊靠杯說『那時候都是家人阻著我去念』

除非你要為你妹的人生負責,那請盡情的為她做決定
如果你不行或你不想甚至自顧不暇,那溝通就好,
真的她自己做了決定,身為家人,在旁邊默默支持就好

關於未來,誰知道會怎樣...
說不定過兩年 朱宅大又會回到以前的苗條身材....
2008-09-06 @ 11:20
迴響 from: bearcr 宅大叔 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/bearcr
加註一下....
上一篇老哥好像應該是老姊吧....
SORRY 筆誤
2008-09-06 @ 11:23
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
我們永遠都不會知道"如果當初選擇了另一條路現在會是怎麼樣?"...因為我們都回不去了。再者,就算能夠回去,我也不要啊!我很喜歡現在的自己、很喜歡現在的生活,但那都是由過去每個每個選擇演化而來的我。
就算我無法說出自己確切想要的是什麼,但是我很清楚明白的知道自己不要的是什麼,做了選擇之後就義無反顧的堅持下去,也從不後悔,因為這是我自己選擇的人生啊XD!
於是這樣一路走來,我已經可以很明白的說出我想要的是什麼!因為這都是經過自己選擇走出來的路,然後我就會一步一步往自己想要的目標接近了......科科科....
2008-09-06 @ 11:31
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 我們會說 [訪問者]
ninny不虧是班長,永遠有耐心回答正確答案~
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我才不要當班長.....話說從小到大也沒有當過啦.......囧"
我比較喜歡當那種在人家背後出餿主意的那種人→好像是叫顧問吧XD?!




人生沒有所謂的正確答案,就好像我們所說的撒旦會是某些人的神一樣。
2008-09-06 @ 11:33
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
十一點半才剛拖好臥室........囧"
2008-09-06 @ 11:34
迴響 from: HZL [訪問者]
當初父母爲了就業的問題讓我放棄喜歡的文科而去念工科
現在有一份穩定的工作,但是還是常常遺憾自己沒有辦法做自己喜歡的事。

或許追求夢想會失敗,或許跟現實妥協會比較幸福。
但是就像我現在跟我讀大學的老弟說的...
這是你自己的旅途,我們只能告訴你前面的路況怎樣,該走怎樣的路還是由你自己決定。
2008-09-06 @ 11:37
迴響 from: ckkc [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
就算全世界的人都支持縮圖我也不縮圖!

因為男子漢就是要與全世界為敵!
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好吧!既然如此...那我就只好每天練習按ctrl-跟朱宅大對抗
XDDD
2008-09-06 @ 11:43
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
為什麼我試不成功XD!




開始掃客廳........囧"
2008-09-06 @ 11:50
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468

那根香腸的形狀看起來好像蛆
我在想豪宅到底是去買烤香腸還是烤蛆(烤王蟲蛆)!!

啊幹...他剛剛又去落塞了
2008-09-06 @ 12:00
迴響 from: 台灣軟實力研究中心 [訪問者]





給上面的:迴響來自: james [訪問者]

  關於你提供的:
 《3/4債務世界(淪陷的經濟),新書十月初上市,這世界有80%的財富來竟然來自於債務》

  你的部落格好像專門談經濟問題,預告10月份要出的書,希望能對台灣的「停滯性通貨
膨脹」能夠有較為新一點的啟發(對一般領薪水的人而言啦!)。

  本中心正在招募特約作家,要對政府寫分析報告,希望閣下考慮一下,看看能不能一起為
台灣未來的前途謀求出一個「康莊大道」。

台灣軟實力研究中心
聯絡人:李麥克 aztec986@hotmail.com



附議:
  鳳凰衛視
  節目:開卷八分鐘   主持人:梁文道
  2007年12月17,18日《貨幣戰爭》
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=vqyLyoRwufM
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ku7KdSX4w&feature=related

  Money as Debt(錢就是債)
    這是Mr.Grignon作的一個47分鐘動畫影片,淺顯易懂的來解說金錢的觀念,大意上,
    金錢的實質以前是有價的東西,但是現在的金錢實質上是以債務的方式存在著,這是
    大陸朋友打上的簡體字版。
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKRM30Zxnc
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=qZkaT-V9rfI&feature=related
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=J9PxRMN1jgo&feature=related
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=ugzWdJaxcA4&feature=related
  http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=rvG58bxhmuI&feature=related


-- 搞笑一下 ---------------------

 劉德華炒股虧百萬? 投資狀
 http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=qZDoFlPZTH0&feature=related
  
2008-09-06 @ 12:03
迴響 from: ask [訪問者] · http://mrask.blogspot.com/
靠腰
小護士圖呢 妹妹圖呢
2008-09-06 @ 12:05
迴響 from: YUHO [訪問者]
嗯 沒錯 朱老大跟諸位阿宅是時候該吃素了 拒吃肉是個雙贏的局面
2008-09-06 @ 12:06
迴響 from: MorrisChang [訪問者] · http://changjiinglang.blogspot.com/
苦主阿:

是不是大多數的人說讓你妹自己決定他的命運,你跟你爸就會尊重他的決定?我只想知道這點。
2008-09-06 @ 12:14
迴響 from: 貴妃 [訪問者]
試不出來~

放棄...
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迴響來自: ckkc [訪問者]
迴響來自: 邪惡阿宅 [訪問者]
奇怪,鍵盤按 "Ctrl"+ "-"就可以看啦。
為何要要求縮圖,自己動手即可。
2008-09-06 @ 12:21
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
真是大哉問。
不過我的答案很簡單,就是了解自己,盡人事後聽天命。
2008-09-06 @ 12:42
迴響 from: 河流裡 [訪問者]
這種事情,永遠有多的說不完的範例

不外乎就是:
你現在幫他做決定,萬一他沒搞定,會怪你為何亂幫他做決定?
你現在讓他自己決定,萬一他沒搞定,會怪你當初為何不幫他決定?

每一條路,都要付出代價才能獲得果實。

範例A,我同學
國中一畢業就決定不再升學,在同學們的驚訝聲中,決定去髮廊做學徒,來都覺得這人完了,但如今是幾家造型連鎖店的店長,也幫幾位知名人士做造型顧問。
(問題是,國中畢業就不念書,堅持走自己的路,有幾個人可以走到這樣?)

範例B,神秘嘉賓
國中畢業後,父親堅持他該去念工專,(他本來想依自己興趣去唸藝專或是女生很多的商專)最後工專念了7年,都在搞藝術,後來還是去唸了藝術研究所
在專科唸得亂七八糟的時候,他有怪過爸爸幹麻逼他去念工專,爸爸也是很難過的。

範例C,我弟弟
國中畢業沒考好,我建議他,找間沒有課業壓力的靠近家裡的爛高中唸,然後就可以有多時間在家裡準備重考或是轉學考,他也欣然同意,後來在那所高中交到壞朋友,整個人墮落下去,人生就這樣了,目前該弟弟躲債中。(我沒聽過他抱怨過我幫他建議的決定,大概是因為他高中三年玩得爽得很!)

我的感覺是:不管誰做的決定,路有沒有走好最重要。
不管哪一條路,沒有奮鬥是不會有什麼結果的。
2008-09-06 @ 13:09
迴響 from: Chieeh 請大家十月二日來美和聽朱豪宅演講啊XD [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/csit58903203
我是末代聯考的那一批學生

那時候的推薦甄試,似乎就是現行的基測

我那時候有兩間學校可以選擇,ㄧ間在高雄火車站旁邊

ㄧ間在澄清湖旁,我選了這間看似山明水秀其實在量產台客的學校

家中所有長輩,及我的國中老師,都叫我念電子

那時候電子真的看起來挺不錯的,畢業後的薪水及就業都可以期待

可是我好想念商科,但是那時候我還不是會衝撞長輩王八蛋

所以我念電子,跌跌撞撞

也走岔了路,課餘就不學好,菸酒毒賭,甚至是在當鋪"打工"

後來,我回頭認真念書

我選了一個我喜歡的領域,也在這領域學得很快樂

雖然說我學費是自己打工存來的,但是起碼這錢是乾淨的

雖然說我已經比同學虛長好幾歲,但是起碼這是我想要的

重考,沒什麼不好,如果你真的有心想讀的話

Randy Pausch教授不是說過

擋在你前面的那堵牆,不是要阻止你 而是要考驗你到底多想要

共勉之


2008-09-06 @ 13:16
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者]
這裡可是
魯瑟夫

千宅號部落格啊!

牠!
航向
偉大的宅道
要成為海宅王

是個以不縮圖為已任的男子漢!


伸縮自在的宅~
(啊幹.....這個是西索吧?)

2008-09-06 @ 13:24
迴響 from: Chieeh 請大家十月二日來美和聽朱豪宅演講啊XD [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/csit58903203
所以屎旺雞大大,還是沒有跟果自小姐告白。

媽,我會用標點符號了耶(自豪)
2008-09-06 @ 13:25
迴響 from: 蠍 [訪問者]
痛過才知道自己需要什麼
家人給的意見不過是經歷多一點 看的多一點 為小孩決定的最終目地是這個系所將來有沒有好的「錢」途
我們家的人 以掌控小孩未來為樂 若考不好或走的路不符他們需要 就會冷嘲熱諷 甚至覺得當孩子的沒有在賺錢 跟本毫無壓力可言 以至我妹壓力大到落髮嚴重 冏rz

覺得 如果在乎她 就是不管她做什麼決定 當家長的只要給予支持就好了
2008-09-06 @ 13:26
迴響 from: alberto [訪問者]
為什麼我覺得好像有人問路卻又沒告訴我他要去哪個感覺?

先問問你妹他想要怎樣的人生吧。想要無聊安穩的人生,還是苦難豐富的人生?

如果你不知道你的目的,不管是garmin 還是papago都幫不了你阿!!
阿宅對3C產品的熱情大概只輸給女神一點點
2008-09-06 @ 13:35
迴響 from: ckkc [訪問者]
to貴妃跟ninny:
ctrl-請同時按謝謝
2008-09-06 @ 13:39
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: ckkc [訪問者]
to貴妃跟ninny:
ctrl-請同時按謝謝
======================
是同時按的啊........囧"
沒差,如果貼的是VITAS或是JASON MRAZ的圖,本人應該就會有"不管怎麼樣都要試成功"的毅力了XD!


話說突然想到聯合公園的一首歌:NUMB
真是有異曲同工之妙啊......囧"
2008-09-06 @ 13:44
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
拖好客廳,意外發現大蜘蛛一隻,本人願意捐出來當抽獎獎品XD!
2008-09-06 @ 13:45
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
其實這篇我本來可以寫一個長篇大論的......

但是那香腸....它有毒......我貼完就又去拉肚子去了,所以寫不多.....

Lucifer

感覺我今天變瘦又變帥了呢!
2008-09-06 @ 13:47
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]
TO: ckkc

IE 好像不行吧...
你是不是說火狐...

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迴響來自: ckkc [訪問者]
to貴妃跟ninny:
ctrl-請同時按謝謝
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2008-09-06 @ 13:51
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]

樓上請用 CTRL + 滑鼠滾輪 謝謝....
2008-09-06 @ 13:53
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

嫌圖大者,請按右鍵選「檢視圖片」。不然一張那麼大,都不知道那一大塊肌膚區域是什麼部位……

老師!這張頭的比例真的拍太大了……有大頭狗式拍法的失真嫌疑……


俗諺有云:通往地獄的路佈滿善心。

我是那種超級懶人,如果家人能指一條明路給我往前衝最好;但是現實是,近代經濟結構改變得太快了,連有著一群人的專業投資、政策單位都常預測出錯,更不用提憑當年經驗作預測的父母。
2008-09-06 @ 14:03
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者]
願朱大拉肚子

拉的暢快
拉的順

不要胡思亂想啊!
2008-09-06 @ 14:03
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
其實這篇我本來可以寫一個長篇大論的......
但是那香腸....它有毒......我貼完就又去拉肚子去了,所以寫不多.....
Lucifer
感覺我今天變瘦又變帥了呢!
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莫非這就是排毒療法!?


再補充一點個人心得,有時候名字一整個古怪、不知到底在念什麼的科系反而出來後超有競爭力,所以這事難說得很。
2008-09-06 @ 14:07
迴響 from: ckkc [訪問者]
迴響來自: DRack [訪問者]
TO: ckkc

IE 好像不行吧...
你是不是說火狐...
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啊對!我不是用IE
之前我哥說IE很爛,叫我換Maxthon
已經用好幾年Maxthon
(是說我也沒有覺得特別好用或難用啦)

朱大請保重~
2008-09-06 @ 14:17
迴響 from: crazyzac [訪問者]
不敢告白就別告白
2008-09-06 @ 14:44
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org


感覺我今天變瘦又變帥了呢!
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朱大‧您真的中毒了XD!



忤逆犯上→來人!拖出去斬了XD!






拖好廚房還有浴室.......囧"
2008-09-06 @ 14:53
迴響 from: ***** [訪問者]
現在知道女生怎麼減肥了吧!

之前,吃過路邊老夫婦的碳火燒烤(他們實在太老了)
暗夜中,雞腿好像還潑到汽油,屢試不爽,可以拉到虛脫:P)
2008-09-06 @ 15:01
自己的未來自己承擔,當然有一些前人所累積的經驗和教訓也不能不聽。

如果她心意已決,那再勸她也沒用了吧。

也是該讓她嘗試著負責了。

不過告訴她,後悔了就別再跟家人抱怨。



2008-09-06 @ 15:17
迴響 from: ***** [訪問者]
朱大

拉完要記得吃清淡一點!!

最好不吃晚餐.

2008-09-06 @ 15:27
迴響 from: JoyWu [訪問者]
用FF時,直接用滑鼠點圖片按右鍵[檢視照片],也可以直接看縮圖。

2008-09-06 @ 16:26
迴響 from: 貴妃 [訪問者]
to ninny
我家最近也有那種叫螂蚜的大蜘蛛,跟妳一樣湊一雙捐出來當抽獎獎品好了..

to DRack
ctrl+滑輪=只有變字大小.....是的,我只有IE...>_
2008-09-06 @ 16:31
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
大家都很認真ㄉ回答了問題
身為一個認真ㄉㄚ宅,我也很認真ㄉ回答吧!

我自己也是常常會被長輩"給予"很多意見ㄉ人,
小時候(高職)雖然自己不喜歡某個科系,但是,家裡人都說,女生適合念商,會計好好唸,以後工作就不用愁嘞!穩定又妥當~
但是,我知道自己並不適合那條路...我不是可以乖乖坐在椅子上,靜靜的敲計算機(算盤)算著傳票那種人~可是,我還是乖乖ㄉ去唸了會計科...
那三年,老實說,我還是很努力的學ㄌ這東西,證照也拿到ㄌ~可是在功課上,我一點也不快樂...於是我"往外發展",我在社團活動中,找到很快樂ㄉ元素!
高職畢業後,我重新找學自己人生ㄉ方向,我決定先工作...18歲ㄉ我能做甚麼捏? 我並沒有選擇去會計事務所上班~而是跑去當業務...當然,這個決定,讓我跟全家人為敵~
工作二個月ㄉ期間我還是不斷ㄉ思考的的人生,之後,我離職了,決定半工半讀,自己去補習,考夜二專~後來,在工科找到自己感興趣ㄉ學科~一直半工半讀直到唸完二技...雖然,後來做的工作跟學的東西還是沒有關係~
現在,我還是覺ㄉ我的人生跌跌撞撞~但是,那又如何~這就是人生,不是嗎?
念會計ㄉ那三年,我很痛苦~但是,我認真的學習、並取得證照之後,真正受益的還是我自己~
現在做的工作(可以糊口啦!),是全面性的工作~需要會計的專業、需要業務的溝通能力、需要...巴拉巴拉ㄉ~
我總覺ㄉ~既然是自己決定要做的事,當然是要認真去做呀!
認真ㄌ~不見得會得到自己想要ㄉ結果,但是不認真不努力,一定不會得到~

我弟小我二屆;因為是獨子,所以備受保護~
我媽看我為了聯考,沒日沒夜的讀書~他希望他兒子可以不要那麼辛苦~(雖然我弟其實,也不是很愛唸書~)所以,叫他去讀"建教班",那時候的弟,儼然已經是各沉迷於電玩的阿宅ㄌ~所以,欣然答應去讀"資訊班",國四,他從建教班畢業,老實說~我根本不知道他在那裡學會什麼~但是,我知道,他已經沒有競爭力可以去考高中了! 那時候,我正要從高職畢業,我問他,在資訊班的那二年,他學ㄌ甚麼~他說不上來,問他要不要去考證照,他說他不會那些東西...學校交ㄉ不是那個~
後來,他們那個班,在家長的力量下,找到了一個工科的高職,收留他們那班的學生,他們可以全部直接上夜間部ㄉ高二...只是變成"木工科" , 我知道我弟,念木工得時候也不快樂,每次實習課要做家具,他都很痛苦~常常出差錯,做出不能用的家具(例如:椅子不像椅子,最後只好當架子用),當然,他高三畢業後,也沒辦法考上四技二專,於是,在大家的決定下,他重考~荒廢了六年的光陰,不足的部份,要用多少時間補回? 他再次跨科系,選了商科,因為他想念資處科~
過一年在補習班生活,暑假時,放榜了! 我看見他的成績~根據級距,他根本上不了國立的學校,我去跟他談,問他想要甚麼~他一邊玩三國志一邊跟我說~他根本不知道他要甚麼~反正,大人會幫他決定~最後,是成績幫他決定了學校,他沒機會念資處,任何一間學校都唸不到~
四技畢業前,我問他,要繼續唸研究所,還是當兵,還是工作~他一樣不知道他要甚麼~
後來,他去考了研究所,我問他為甚麼?他說~他只是不想當兵跟工作~
研究所,沒考上~他還是得去當兵了!
同樣ㄉ問題,又出現了! 大人都叫他簽約當班長~於是他去考試了~也去受訓~
可是,卻因為被保護的太好,所以一個月就出包被退訓了!
後來他退伍時,ㄧ樣的問題還是出現,要繼續唸研究所、還是去工作?
這次我沒有問他了~我只跟他說~
你自己選,這個社會上,沒有那種真ㄉ很好走的路~
決定了,就自己負責~

他現在,聽父母的話進入親友的公司工作,每天都很不快樂~下班就只玩線上遊戲,一個月2.8萬的薪水~花3萬買點數~總是說~這是你們逼我的~

我也不知道要怎麼幫他~
我一直跟他說~要做自己覺得快樂的事,才會把事情做的很好~
他不懂~他只想玩線上遊戲而已~因為在那裡他可以很厲害
我很生氣的跟他說~真正厲害的人,是不用自己花錢,也可以玩遊戲的那種~(甚至是有人付錢請你玩遊戲~)
我決定,不要當很囉嗦的姐姐~
讓他去做他認為對的事,想做的事~
反正,那是他的人生~
該說ㄉ~我都說ㄌ~
這就夠了!

這世界的是非,一直在變~
沒有甚麼是絕對的~


現實生活中,有太多不是我們想要的~
可是,我們是為了我們想要的那些在奮鬥,不是嗎?
追逐自己的夢想,就算很苦~
可是我遙望夢想的成果豐收時的喜悅,那這些苦絕對是值得ㄉ~
就算失敗ㄌ~至少我嘗試過~

怎麼好像是在說告白失敗的感想
:P
2008-09-06 @ 16:39
迴響 from: Simon [訪問者] · http://givemethepaper.blogspot.com/
家長提供意見就好。至於小孩要怎麼決定,看他自己啦。

如果他夠堅決,必然會為所愛付出、負責。我以前選科系和家人看法不同,後來聽了家裡的。兩年後,我還是熱愛自己原本想去的系,導致多花兩年轉系。

現在都工作了,用的也是所學。我其實相當早就知道自己所愛的是什麼,只是當時年紀小,說的話在大人的心中,似乎是不具份量的。(不過這不代表那個小孩不曉得自己在做什麼)
2008-09-06 @ 16:43
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 貴妃 [訪問者]
to ninny
我家最近也有那種叫螂蚜的大蜘蛛,跟妳一樣湊一雙捐出來當抽獎獎品好了..
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乾乾抓到的那隻不是螂蚜.......還好不是啊.......囧"
只是最近家裡螞蟻變多,所以蜘蛛也變多,當務之急是先把螞蟻變不見啊XD!

話說上次在公司看到一隻大螂蚜害我在辦公室狂奔啊......囧"
乾乾已經把那隻蜘蛛抓去樓梯間放生了‧阿棉~
沒辦法跟閣下一起捐出來當獎品了XD!
2008-09-06 @ 16:54
迴響 from: needtime [訪問者]
提供給小護士的一點小建議
可以上該志願校的網站
瀏覽休閒管理系的修習內容是甚麼
然後,自己再略微翻閱與該休閒管理系學習科目有關的書籍,
實際看看,這個系到底要修習的內容是甚麼
(光看系名,想像學習內容是不可靠的),
貴妹妹閱畢後,仍對這個系所充滿熱情,
那就讓她去吧,讓她為自己的決定負責!
或許,畢業後,出路不錯呢!
但如果,畢業後找工作等等,仕途不順
再去讀在職專班就好啦(很多學校都有),
屆時有一點工作經驗了,更珍惜也更知道自己要甚麼...

反過來說,念好學校的學生,未來一定都很光明嗎?
人生又不是一套既定的公式,輸入一樣的數值,
得到的結果可能都不相同...
2008-09-06 @ 16:59
迴響 from: DUDU [訪問者]
啊!我家也有一個一模一樣的弟弟,
他在國中的成績奇爛無比,
而且還瞞騙家人說成績很好,
當一放榜才發現成績根本沒校可唸,
去年勉強關說讓他上私校,
他當時還因為覺得沒面子不想去讀,
把家裡鬧的很僵...囧TZ
那時我就罵了一句:
「成績爛成這樣,你自己好好想想!」
最後他只好乖乖閉嘴去唸。

說真的,
對於「睡著」所付出的代價,
就是分發到這樣的學校,
不想接受這樣的結果,
那就必須花更多的力氣與時間努力的改變自己的未來,
重要的是令妹有沒有認知到這個「代價」是自己必須負責的?
有沒有瞭解必須有「決心」去改變自己?
告訴她這點的不就是家人嗎!
不管要唸警專、護專、休管,
最重要的應該是她真正瞭解「唸了之後會怎樣」,
以及「我為什麼要唸這個」,
如果令妹的答案可以自圓其說,
那就放她去吧!
她的人生讓她自己決定!

雖然常常聽我弟碎碎唸學校怎樣,
但是現在讀的還算不錯。
我不想以成績、學歷論人能力,
但是這往往卻是最快評價一個人能力的方法,
至於「我都是為妳好!」這點......
連續劇裡通常會說這種話的好像都不是真心的為主角著想就是了,
單純只是要宣揚自己的價值觀嘛科科~
2008-09-06 @ 17:16
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
看來大家對自己的人蔘都有很多怨念= =

香腸伯:我也是為尼好啊~(顫抖
2008-09-06 @ 17:38
迴響 from: Retard [訪問者]
迴響來自: 邪惡阿宅 [訪問者]
奇怪,鍵盤按 "Ctrl"+ "-"就可以看啦。
為何要要求縮圖,自己動手即可。

覆議:
既然提到家桶杯杯,那我也要抒發一句九品芝麻官的台詞

家桶杯杯~

我桶你老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的老木的。

打完收工
2008-09-06 @ 11:06
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我桶你老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的老腹的佬木的。

這叫做資源回收再利用~節能省炭救地球:D
2008-09-06 @ 17:46
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者]
話說....

用opera mini會自動把圖縮小呢~
2008-09-06 @ 17:49
迴響 from: 辰陽 [訪問者]
老實說我覺得"人生30才開始"這句話不是說假的
但那是人生中最後一次可以後悔的機會
錯過了就很難可以重來了

很多人對我說如果這樣做是對的
那為甚麼要繞遠路浪費時間
可是他們都忘了
我...沒有目標
如果人生只要吃穿不愁,那我就去賣雞排就好啦
要不就去啃得雞打工,做個幾年我就他媽的升店長拉
真只要錢,有百多種方法可以來錢

高中時我找不到自己的目標,自己的夢想
有時覺得自己生活在這個世界根本就是浪費食物
可是又很不甘心
於是我考了一間私立大學
然後我在自由中發現自己的野心和自己所嚮往的生活
所以就算基礎很濫,我會想辦法去重新打基礎
所以就算生活很苦,但是我覺的生活的很充實

人!不能沒有自己的野心和夢想

所以如果你妹還年輕
就讓她繞一下遠路吧
讓她知道自己的野心和夢想
她就會自己往前衝
或自己去努力
會對自己的未來憂心


2008-09-06 @ 17:50
迴響 from: Drater [訪問者]
妳瑪幫幫忙~

不要再跳了啦!!!




( 眼睛好累的說!!! )
2008-09-06 @ 17:53
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
孔子說:30而立
指的並不是所謂的"成家立業",而是立定志向!
您看看!人的一生要花多久時間才能了解自己的志向勒?更何況是那些被家人保護的好好的溫室小花,他們說不定終其一生都沒有機會做真正的自己。


"吾少也賤,故多能鄙事".....網路上有人翻成→我小時候是個賤人,所以會作很多卑鄙的事XD!
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我說:多方嘗試,會讓你更有機會了解自己真正的方向。但是重點是:在放棄之前,先確定自己盡力了沒有(少年小樹他阿公說的)。
2008-09-06 @ 18:03
迴響 from: alberto [訪問者]
看到火星人的留言,有點感觸
其實生命真得很殘酷,它要你學習的功課如果你一直學不會,那同樣的悲劇就會換個時間換幾個臉孔,不斷的重演,重演,重演再重演,直到你學會了為止。

我知道看著身邊的人被同樣一顆石頭絆倒十次是什麼樣的感覺,仙丹也要肯張嘴吃下去才會有用阿。
2008-09-06 @ 18:21
迴響 from: COBHC [訪問者]
我們面對的是一個'人',不是一塊泥土,我們面對的是一個有感受,有情感有理想的主體,而不是塊任由他人捏塑的泥土.時常我們忘了如何做一個人,忘了傾聽內在的聲音,常常我們努力幫別人作最好的決定,其實是投射出我們自身對這世界的不安與焦慮.回到小護士妹妹的問題,你或許可以這樣想,如果你妹妹明天就要離開這個世界(抱歉,只是舉個極端的例子),你希望她在生命中曾經實現自我或曾經完成社會責任?

快樂是個難以客觀測量的東西,或許唯有真誠面對自我才有可以接近它...

我想起曾看過的一篇關於搖滾女孩的故事,或許跟這個主題有關,在這裡跟大家分享:

http://cobhc0205.blogspot.com/2007/08/5.html

PS.朱大的版越來越有匿名團體諮商會的味道...恩....大家加油(擁抱拍背)..
2008-09-06 @ 18:53
迴響 from: 陸仁賈 [訪問者]
阿宅不會擁抱拍背, 阿宅只會擁抱刺背哭泣..
2008-09-06 @ 19:06
迴響 from: 陸仁賈 [訪問者]
如果不知道將來要做什麼, 最近找到一個性向測試網站, 看起來頗準的, 應該有點參考價值:
http://component.agilerails.net/generators/ef71edb94a/results/new
範例:
陳水扁的成份分析
你適合甚麼樣的工作!?超級準~
http://component.agilerails.net/generators/ef71edb94a

人力資源:20.6%
神棍:18.7%
美容美髮:16.5%
傳播藝術:11.2%
環境衛生:10.2%
金融專業:6.9%
客服支援類:6.2%
採購倉管:3.5%
藝術設計:2.7%
門市管理:1.5%
尼姑:0.8%
乞丐:0.6%
工程研發:0.1%

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前六項都滿準的勒...
2008-09-06 @ 19:37
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
民視現在在播張雨生專輯啦~~~
2008-09-06 @ 20:21
迴響 from: RAMMSTEIN [訪問者]
台灣的大學 有念的價值嗎?
除了學費比別的國家便宜 花了人生四年出來 就為了區區三萬塊薪水嗎?
全世界有多少高中職畢業生薪水遠遠高過這個數目 請考慮一下吧

我覺得太多立論基礎都圍繞在工作薪水的 就算是這樣的話 麻煩把取樣範圍放大一點
我認識一海票中國年輕廚師渡豪賺錢 只要英文尚可 二十出頭薪資可是遠超過NTD30K不曉得多少倍
有技藝真的天下都有容身之處 這才是以錢為導向該考慮的

不然的話 把歷史哲學中文當志向有甚麼不對了? 為啥好像大家都把咱們文科的當殉教異端了?

還有 對研究真的有興趣的 再考慮研究所吧
2008-09-06 @ 20:32
迴響 from: kkk [訪問者]
正妹鬍子有點長...
有家人指點也不錯
起碼有東西可以反抗
如果根本沒人管
那才比較麻煩
2008-09-06 @ 20:57
迴響 from: BIGP [訪問者] · http://blog.pixnet.net/BIGP
我贊同朱老大這句話

"如果十年之後,她體會到是她自己的選擇讓她的人生走向不一樣的方向,她可以為了自己的選擇後悔,但她要怎麼替別人的選擇而後悔?"


另外有牌子的香腸也是有可能因為烤太久而變成黑炭

吃下去當然會肚子痛啦~~~
2008-09-06 @ 21:15
迴響 from: palm [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ruaypapa

陸仁賈 [訪問者]
如果不知道將來要做什麼, 最近找到一個性向測試網站, 看起來頗準的, 應該有點參考價值:
http://component.agilerails.net/generators/ef71edb94a/results/new

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更~~

我適合當白癡
猴死囡仔孩子他媽適合當尼姑
我兒子可以當智障
我女兒可以去旅遊

……..Orz…………..

2008-09-06 @ 21:26
迴響 from: 簡尼夫。德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
呀~
我也差不多這情況
我現在選的建造業管工課程
根本不可以說是我的意願
我現在想起
也好像不太知道發生什麼事就唸了這課程
父母親戚們也是說這是為我好
我也有跟他們是放開我一年了
讓我自己去試著教武術的日子
但是…
他們就是不聽
說我放鬆了一年
就不會再去學習「知識」
還有很多理由…
總之…
唉~
會在社會上總會有說不出的無奈



齋戒的簡尼夫…
Blades of Chaos!!!
再也不能像以前的自在
2008-09-06 @ 21:44
迴響 from: 越南小台勞 [訪問者]
每次同學會我都自我介紹「我是誤入歧途的某某某...」(念的科系當時應該只有四間學校有)

真的認為「錢」途很重要,妳願意付出甚麼做為交換?我是為了70K的薪水,付出了一年在台灣的日子不到一個月,遠離父母,遠離朋友,更重要的是大概不會有台妹女友了...。

但是這是自己的決定,男人就是出外拼事業!

繼續打報告給老闆去....
2008-09-06 @ 21:45
迴響 from: aiueo(100瘦到75再復胖到80>_ [訪問者]
你一直抱著她走,她永遠有理由怪你抱她走錯了方向。
你有資格告訴她人生的歷練,但她有資格不聽。
她的決定很有可能是錯的,但你們要讓她十年之後還是怪你們當初替她挑錯了方向嗎?
如果十年之後,她體會到是她自己的選擇讓她的人生走向不一樣的方向,她可以為了自己的選擇後悔,
但她要怎麼替別人的選擇而後悔?
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我現在雖然3x歲~但是我還是選擇自己的方向走.
因為我被我母親抱著走2x年.母親不能怪.那麼剩下的人生~總可以自己選擇
就算跌到.也是自己負責.
謝謝.
2008-09-06 @ 22:04
迴響 from: 呼拉圈 [訪問者]
人生的路上,總是有很多岔路,最後會通到什麼地方,沒有人猜得準

我,高中曾經考上第一志願,外加台北工專的前幾個志願,面臨人生的第一次抉擇
然後高中留級了,在留級多讀一年跟平轉其他高中三年畢業間,面臨人生第二個抉擇
以幾乎落榜的分數考上大學,在上大學跟重考間,面臨人生第三個抉擇
之後參加轉學考,考進國立大學務農,考上研究所,畢了業,正在當小助理,一邊試著考公職

大家都說,如果我在第一個岔路向左轉,很有可能在畢業前就被工作找到,當個年薪百萬的工程師
也有人說,如果我在第二個岔路向左轉,一定能三年畢業考上大學,然後往工業界發展
還有人說,如果我去重考,現在的前途一定不可限量(在大學報到當天放我鴿子的高中同學現在在當中醫師)

不過,我自己很清楚,別人對我的期待其實只是美麗的誤會,建築在無邊的幻想上
而他們畫出來的美麗景象,其實連他們自己也做不到
反而是我,一步一步慢慢往前走,偶爾還會走兩步退三步,卻也走到了現在的地方,擁有獨特的景緻
如果問我後不後悔,我會說:"不後悔"

畢竟,牛牽到北京還是牛,不會因為牽到重考班就變成呂蒙,發糞塗牆令人刮目相看,也不會因為牽到警專就變成盡忠職守專門救苦救難的好青年.可是只要牛發現了自己的專長,它就有可能變成紫牛,大聲牛,甚至變成飛天牛,走出一條不一樣的路.

PS:從前的警校跟軍校都超多變態的,小心令弟因為接受不當管教結果瘋掉了,那可是得不償失.....
2008-09-06 @ 22:32
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
有錢真的很重要.....有錢就可以多買幾顆燒肉粽讓賣肉粽的阿伯早點回家休息.....就可以向每個路口賣玉蘭花的人都買一束.....就可以買塊地蓋個流浪動物之家養牠們一輩子......我沒有什麼特別的東西可以拿來跟神交換很多很多的錢,所以只能夠每個星期買兩顆燒肉粽......囧"
離題了......



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話說士林商專讀了四年、德明商專讀了兩年、汐止住了N年的本人,今天晚上前往士林的時候竟然還是迷路了......囧"
但是天佑阿宅,雖然走了一條從來沒有走過的路,卻還是順利的到了士林XD!
由於買的東西太重,本來想吃的水姦包、肉圓、甜不辣、豬血湯、臭豆腐....一樣都沒有買XD!

2008-09-06 @ 22:48
迴響 from: 陸仁賈 [訪問者]
水如何能姦包, 我滿好奇的...A_A
2008-09-06 @ 23:53
迴響 from: elaine [訪問者]
關於香腸的事...其實我昨兒個就想講了
香腸是豬豬做的耶,會拉肚子應該是"同性相斥"的緣故
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我今天沒有迷路也還有活著還可以上來哈拉耶
好開心的啊!!!
2008-09-06 @ 23:58
迴響 from: eugenegx [訪問者]
這篇文章真的是超認真的...
看完朱大和上面的人之後我已經沒什麼好說的了...
該講的都差不多講完了XD
自己的人生還是給自己決定啦~
我也超討厭動不動就怪別人的人...真是生氣~
2008-09-07 @ 00:27
迴響 from: 毛毛 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/gb5205
朱大:
我好孤單
(XD 別誤會)
因為堅持夢想的人好少
至少在我身邊是如此
我無時無刻打起十二萬分的精神抗戰
但偶而還是會迷失在現實跟世俗當中
所以必須時時看看朱大的文章
我在裡面可以找到堅持夢想的力量
我很感動
"她可以為了自己的選擇後悔,但她要怎麼替別人的選擇而後悔?"
這句話又深得我心,成為我的人生佳句
我要堅持自己的夢想
別再活在別人選擇的日子裡!

P.s 我也好想參加阿宅聚會呀~~
很想再跟你們貼近一些
但是我沒有一大堆公仔
看的卡漫也不夠多
不知道有沒有資格?

2008-09-07 @ 00:49
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者]
to 毛毛

宅的領域不是只有侷限在漫畫與公仔啊~
2008-09-07 @ 01:01
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 呼拉圈 [訪問者]
PS:從前的警校跟軍校都超多變態的,小心令弟因為接受不當管教結果瘋掉了,那可是得不償失.....

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以前也一度要去報考軍校→因為我媽媽說她沒辦法幫我出學費,於是軍校也成了本人當年的選擇之一,但因考量到本人這種很喜歡唱反調的個性,我想我有可能在我爬到打死別人的位置之前,就已經先被打死了,於是打消唸軍校的念頭.......囧"


話說本人真的好想穿上帥帥的軍服喔.......囧"
(我是制服控XD!)
2008-09-07 @ 01:12
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: baabuu [訪問者]
to 毛毛

宅的領域不是只有侷限在漫畫與公仔啊~
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對啊!閣下可以往愛情動作片這領域發展先XD!
2008-09-07 @ 01:13
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 陸仁賈 [訪問者]
水如何能姦包, 我滿好奇的...A_A
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厚.....光華戲院那家水姦包真的超好吃的啦.......囧"
(辣椒尤其讚!)


不過現在不知道幾塊錢一顆了XD!
還有山東利民的雞塊飯、天仁的珍珠奶茶........我不應該在深夜討論這種有關食物的話題.......囧"
2008-09-07 @ 01:15
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
大上海生煎包,一顆十二塊,今天剛吃了三顆。

Lucifer

還有那個毛毛你再遲疑報名就又要額滿啦(還是已經額滿,我不知道),先報再說!

2008-09-07 @ 01:18
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
大上海生煎包,一顆十二塊,今天剛吃了三顆。

Lucifer
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咱家吃的是光華戲院對面那間水姦包......隔壁還有好吃的肉圓、甜不辣、豬血湯、臭豆腐、珍珠奶茶......好餓喔XD!
2008-09-07 @ 01:28
迴響 from: Idun [訪問者]
為什麼朱大每次圖都這麼大張0_0?
2008-09-07 @ 01:30
迴響 from: Isabella [訪問者]
淦!
這張果子的照片檔案也太大了吧!!!
居然要3.5MB!!
我把祂縮到20%存起來ˇ
(雖然我是女的,但朱大這兒有些不錯的照片我還是會偷偷收起來的...ㄎㄎ)
↑朱大不會介意吧>ˇ
2008-09-07 @ 01:30
迴響 from: Isabella [訪問者]
"她"打錯...囧"
2008-09-07 @ 01:31
迴響 from: 窮光蛋 [訪問者]
無論對錯, 應該要把最後的決定交給她自己決定
畢竟那是她自己的人生

而且更糟的是
十年風水輪流轉
這時代變化又特別快
父母的判斷未必是正確的
2008-09-07 @ 01:45
迴響 from: linfavourite [訪問者] · http://linfavourite.blogspot.com
啊啊,其实还蛮了解你对妹妹的疼爱的,因为我也有妹妹,只是我是男的而已……(好像没有必要说出来……算了……)

我妹妹现在高中二,因为她是读国立中学的,然后在我这里(马来西亚),国立高中只读两年,所以她今年就毕业了。问题是……这位大小姐想做空中小姐……那也算了,不过她……她……竟然不懂大学该读什么科目好……TT(老妹……,我服了你……)

一开始她说要当空姐的时候,全家都很担心,反对的家人也有。主要是因为空姐很难做一辈子。除非以后决定在地上柜台做,不然到三十岁后就不能在飞机上做了。而我其实也是偷偷地反对,因为我常上网,知道空姐是个标准的体力白领,要服侍乘客,还必须要面带笑容,万一不好被某些烂学长带到的话,那简直是到了地狱啊!

可是问题是,当我告诉我妹这些事情的时候,我妹妹还是说她想做空姐。我也没有说什么了。毕竟人生是她自己的,该由她自己选择,不是吗?我们家人有资格、权力做的只有两点,第一:给予意见;第二:担心的要命,仅此而已!

我现在就真的很担心她啊……在家十指不沾阳春水的大小姐,竟然要去当空姐……怎样都无法不担心!所以虽然她本身其实不大想读大学或者上大专,我还是鼓励她去上。至少万一她发现空姐不如她想象的美好,想换个职业时,还可以有所退路。结果,她现在说不懂该读什么科目好……= =lll 又不要读理科,电脑也没有兴趣,商业也不大有意愿要去读……现在只能等她解决国立高中统一考试(这里简称SPM~)先才打算了。

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不清楚我所说的能不能给与她帮助呢?朱大有办法联系她吗?
2008-09-07 @ 01:56
迴響 from: 機車妹 [訪問者]
看你妹妹的感覺 好像感覺只是想暫時逃避問題
但問題還是會一直發生
我想說出幾個心得

Solution 1
他想念休閒管理 任何科系 他喜歡的都可以 但要求他交出調查表
調查表列出 他要去找 那個系的學長姐問過的心得 系上老師問過的心得
去問畢業校友的心得 人力中心調查心得 國內有關休閒管理的大學
如果去念 哪一所比較符合自己個性 如果以後要轉學
承不承任南實踐的學分 好不好轉 機率多少
出國發展多不多 如果要出國 要工作多久存錢
親自去該校看看 會不會偏遠到不想念

Sol 2
同樣去對警專做上述調查 考上特考機率 可否改念警大 實際去警專看看
看課程表 看看環境

Sol 3 先念休閒館理再考轉學轉系 趁去念大學時 補修將來要念科系的學分
例如 想考英文系 (隨便一個例子) 先補修英美文學甚麼等等 去哪補習
去問想念學校學長姐經驗 有轉學轉系考的經驗的人 甚至去該學校走走看看
甚至暑假先去美語中心實習 感受一下

Sol 4 重考 同樣進行很多調查 以此類推

當然可以讓你妹做自己決定
但逼他要真正交出調查結果 自己去查 因為這是自己的人生
而這些決定不是坐在家中就可以決定出來的
你妹如果要別人信服他真的很想念自己有興趣的東西就要舉出證明
證明他認真的看待這件事 跟自己人生有關的事 又不是擲杯
所以家長要督促他去做這些調查 看他的決心在哪
所有的事情都先想好備案 先想如果萬一一條路走不通時
是否有補救辦法 結果能否接受
例如 先去念休閒管理 萬一沒興趣 再去轉學考或轉系 能否接受
在念時 他是只是一直玩 或是有認真去考一些證照等等
如果他說的都做不到 就減少金援等等
他要自己做決定 就要拿出負責態度來 如果他不是可以說的通的人
可能就要自己親身去受苦 才能了解

不過我是覺得人生有時繞一下遠路未必不好
除了自殺或殺了人 也沒有甚麼事情永遠無法挽回
人生本來就一直在犯錯 體驗 修改
自己去體驗一下自己的決定 就算之後發現不是自己想要的
也覺得甘願

結論就是
1 做很多充份調查
2 選一條自己還算喜歡又有就業市場 就算不成功結果能承受
也有很多補救方案的
3 不停作多方嘗試 印證自己的想法或修正
4 除非你死了 不然沒有甚麼決定是永遠完蛋的 別擔心
你妹再如何也有你這個疼她的姐姐啊 :)
2008-09-07 @ 02:23
迴響 from: SL [訪問者]
  其實有一點想講一下自己的故事的,但想了想,感覺講了好像幫助不大,而且我的事在某些人眼裡恐怕會認為很蠢吧,雖然我認為最主要的原因應該是幫助不大。

  我是個一上大學就一直有目標的傢伙,所以在大學四年裡我一向都能全心全力地往自己想要的目標前進,但這樣的我,其實也曾經迷惘過的……

  後來,我思考著自己想要的人生(大概經過了一個星期,而那個星期的課我通通翹掉Orz),總思考著,要是自己下一秒死掉,我是不是仍然大聲地說:「吾一生一世永不後悔!!」?(喔,其實並不是真的這樣想,總之差不多就是這意思)後來,我找到了答案,我覺得人的一生其實都是在挑戰自己的極限,他無關結果,他只關過程。如果,每個人都那麼在意結果,那我只會說,每個人都一樣,那就是死。所以結果怎麼樣永遠都不是重點,重點在於,人活著的過程。過程是五彩繽紛的,這世界就是因為這樣所以才精彩,我不認為有什麼唯一,真要講什麼唯一,我只認為,人所走的每一步,自己要為自己負責。我覺得,天實無絕人之路,但人有踟躕之步;就是因為猶豫,人往往以為自己走到了絕路,因此,有時候換個角度想,只要是自己決定的,不管你怎麼走,其實都不是絕路。

  當然,或許主要是因為我一直都是個有目標的傢伙,所以不會懂得沒有目標,不知該怎麼辦的人的想法。我也曾經想過,要是我是個沒有目標的傢伙呢……

  我覺得,如果沒有目標,就隨便從身邊找一件不怎麼糟糕的事(課業呀、畫圖呀、經營Blog呀……等),然後試著全心全力做下去!不管你最後喜不喜歡,我相信你會發現,自己不適合做什麼,然後藉由這樣子不斷地嘗試,你就會發現自己適合做什麼了。

  為什麼要說這些呢?因為我覺得在台灣讀大學,沒什麼比找到一個目標努力來得重要。特別提到"在台灣"和"讀大學"的原因在於,除了這個讀者的故事外,我是認為,台灣的教育制度不夠活,大部分的人都是制式地念書上來的,當你上了大學,你發現課表是自己決定時,慢慢地就能感覺到和以往的不同。雖然不是每個人都這麼覺得,但我相信你只要願意慢慢挖掘,就能體悟到,人生,是自己決定的,也就只有了解這一點,你才能主動地去找到一件目標。

  而努力找一件事情做的這段時間,正是人一生奮鬥的階段,我想,人生的每一個階段,重點有時候不在於你學了什麼知識,而是你從中學到了什麼智慧。我相信很多不同領域裡,雖然獲取的知識並不相同,但我相信,可以獲得相同的智慧。

  我覺得,不要太在意某個人人生奮鬥階段的時間是短是久,正是因為每個人都不一樣,所以不會有唯一,有些人就是需要特別長的時間慢慢地適應,慢慢地找到自己人生的目標。套具Randy Pausch教授所說過的話:「只要等得夠久,每個人都可以讓你讚佩的。如果你生某人的氣你只不過是沒有給他們足夠的時間而已。只要給予足夠時間,他們絕對會讓你驚訝的。」我是覺得,請給她相信的眼神吧,有時候,相信的力量,是很強大的。
2008-09-07 @ 02:29
迴響 from: 毛毛 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/gb5205
謝謝大家給的回應:)
突破心理那一關之後
因為是南投宅
剩下確認排除外在的阻礙就可以跑去參加了!
希望不要太快額滿 :P

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我一直覺得
人生中,過程比結果重要
你贏(輸)了一場比賽
你考(沒考)上研究所
這些都是眼前當下的結果
但拉長整個人生來看
這些眼前的暫時結果只是人生的一部份過程
我考上了研究所
看似是眼前最好的結果
但是如果當初我落榜
而提早就業的我更加發憤圖強
說不定讓我的人生會更加精彩
開啟另外不同風貌的人生

所以你能百分之百肯定眼前當下的選擇與結果
是最好的嗎?
在人生還未結束的時候
我想連當事人都無法下定論
更遑論又是別人替自己做了選擇

你說的很好
你想要她為自己負責任
但是有沒有想過
有沒有人教過她如何為自己負責
給過她為自己負責的機會
不應該只是"年齡"長大了
就要她為自己負責
那完全是兩回事

現在的父母
從小開始幫小孩安排好一切
並沒有給小孩太多自主思考的機會
與自主選擇的權利
所以小孩當然不曾有為自己負責的經驗
所謂為自己負責
應該是"面對自己的選擇,勇敢承受一切的後果"
小孩有自己選擇的權利嗎
大環境體制壓迫下似乎很少

所以 朱大說的很對
她可以為了自己的選擇後悔
之後學習去承擔後果進而得到成長
這就是對自己負責
前提是為了自己的選擇
而非為了別人的選擇

我想你可以在她身旁
告訴她所有你知道的資訊
但最後只能尊重她所做的選擇
這是給她為自己負責的機會、成長的磨鍊
只要是在前往夢想的道路上
跌倒並不可怕

為她好的動機很感人
但陪著她探索夢想與未來
比起替她決定看起來比較好走的路
對她來說是更大的支持與鼓勵喔!

這是我的小小淺見
希望對妳有幫助囉^^










2008-09-07 @ 02:38
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
100多個回覆了,好像還沒看到有人跳出來要真相?似乎大家都沉溺在以往的慘綠年少回憶理不能自拔...如果真相是光明的,那女生還有一個最後的大絕招:找個人嫁了。相信這裡有為數頗眾的阿宅願意伸出援手。
可以開始排隊了嗎?
2008-09-07 @ 04:49
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
東大特訓班(龍櫻)是不錯的漫畫,也拍成電視劇,不過電視劇我沒看過,裡面有不少挑戰傳統想法的橋段,可以去找來看看,搞不好會有幫助。
大家都好熱心啊,打那麼多字,連我都想把自己的故事貼上來了,看看事情發展的如何,有空的時候再打一打吧,科科...
2008-09-07 @ 05:06
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者]
to 毛毛

要來參加唷~
2008-09-07 @ 07:55
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 路人 [訪問者]
100多個回覆了,好像還沒看到有人跳出來要真相?似乎大家都沉溺在以往的慘綠年少回憶理不能自拔...如果真相是光明的,那女生還有一個最後的大絕招:找個人嫁了。相信這裡有為數頗眾的阿宅願意伸出援手。
可以開始排隊了嗎?
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因為小護士姐姐都沒有出來回應啊.........不然貼張照片也好XD!
2008-09-07 @ 08:45
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
啊對了!其實很多人在問問題的時候,並不是想獲得解決的辦法,只是想聽見他們想聽的答案,尋求支持.......囧"
2008-09-07 @ 08:47
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
那小護士說貼文一直失敗,好吧我只好代貼.....囧。

Lucifer

朱大:
我剛剛努力的要將我的感謝留言PO上去
但是,一直失敗(難道這就是上天給阿宅的考驗嗎?)
在肝逼逼啵啵的提醒下,我要去睡覺了
先給你過目一番
PS:我的時鐘顯示現在是凌晨一點十五分
不知朱大你的小心肝是否安好呢 ?

以下是 給阿宅的感謝留言*(明天我會繼續努力貼上去的)

真的,很感謝各位阿宅的意見哪!
近日家中為了這件我們認為攸關他未來
視為大事的事紛擾不已~
我妹妹的個性很沒有定性,別人說好就好的那種
對於他考上的系所
決定要重考的細項
去考警專的決定等等
我們全家人都有上網做過功課
去詢問過周遭有經歷過的親朋好友意見
在種種的考慮過後,才做出重考跟考警專的決定
我知道重考跟警專畢業後特考的困難
所以  我才希望他能了解一件事
[開始學會去參予關於自己未來的決定並且負起責任]
我認為只有他了解了這個道理
她才能認真負責的去走她自己的人生路
而他的態度開始讓我自己懷疑
我是不是變成了那種討人厭的"為你好大人"
而我又有什麼資格去為他的將來負責呢?
所以才想到要求助宅神朱大與眾阿宅們
畢竟阿宅世界無遠弗屆阿 ~
從他放榜到現在也快一個月了
我們跟他分析了這三個選擇的後果
最後他會怎麼選擇我現在也不太在乎了
我真的感謝你們
讓我看見了很多不同觀點
如果可以的話我還真想提供"中秋節豬肉抽獎活動"
(小護士家裡是小鄉下的養豬戶,
想說事務所這裡常常在抽獎來響應一下)
來感謝各位,只不過我現在要想一下宅配方法
最後:我是女的,然後造成這些紛擾的是"妹妹"
不是弟弟啦(這個要澄清一下)

肝在逼啵爆的小護士
        

朱恐龍的回答:我沒有什麼小心肝的問題,我只有吃根香腸拉了兩天肚子的問題~~~                   
2008-09-07 @ 10:02
迴響 from: 建議一下 [訪問者]
日本長野縣製造的「百草丸」(全名應該是:御岳百草丸)
治拉肚子非常有效
藥丸很小顆的那種
大人一次要吞20顆
(我的開過了不好意思送給朱大,而且我也常拉肚子)
2008-09-07 @ 10:15
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
重點倒不是一直拉肚子,而是昨天我覺得好了一點之後又吃了雞排、花枝丸、魚豆腐、水煎包、烤臭豆腐、柳橙綠茶和抹茶紅豆冰.......不知道這樣是不是太多了一點......

Lucifer

另外,誰查的到木炭的化學構成呀?

我正在算烤肉的化學結果,可是木炭並不是單純的C所構成的呀!有沒有一些比例之類的數據?
2008-09-07 @ 10:42
迴響 from: 原來香腸背了黑鍋 [訪問者]
請繼續拉...
2008-09-07 @ 10:47
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
重點倒不是一直拉肚子,而是昨天我覺得好了一點之後又吃了雞排、花枝丸、魚豆腐、水煎包、烤臭豆腐、柳橙綠茶和抹茶紅豆冰.......不知道這樣是不是太多了一點......

Lucifer

另外,誰查的到木炭的化學構成呀?

我正在算烤肉的化學結果,可是木炭並不是單純的C所構成的呀!有沒有一些比例之類的數據?
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是太多了沒錯!!
朱大又離變帥變瘦遠了一點XD!


為什麼要算烤肉的化學結果?難道是9/28要烤肉嗎?



昨天去內湖亞藝租片時,店員是個很可愛又熱心的小男生XD!
但當他告訴我→這部片最近第四台有在播喔......我家沒有第四台......囧"
2008-09-07 @ 10:58
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
那小護士說貼文一直失敗,好吧我只好代貼.....囧。

Lucifer

朱大:
不知朱大你的小心肝是否安好呢 ?
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人家小護士是在問小克是否安好啦.......科科科XD!
2008-09-07 @ 11:00
迴響 from: ***** [訪問者]
是啊!繼續拉吧!是你自己要的!!(攤手)


享受---想瘦
2008-09-07 @ 11:00
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 建議一下 [訪問者]
日本長野縣製造的「百草丸」(全名應該是:御岳百草丸)
治拉肚子非常有效
藥丸很小顆的那種
大人一次要吞20顆
(我的開過了不好意思送給朱大,而且我也常拉肚子)
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我喜歡吃征露丸.....囧"
2008-09-07 @ 11:01
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
為什麼"大劊人心"這部片給我的感覺很像"發條橘子"?但是本人還是尚未買到發條橘子DVD.......囧"


我想看阿拉斯加之死啊XD!
2008-09-07 @ 11:03
迴響 from: 有人想再照胃鏡喔..購物台 [訪問者]

迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] • http://www.myoops.org
重點倒不是一直拉肚子,而是昨天我覺得好了一點之後又吃了雞排、花枝丸、魚豆腐、水煎包、烤臭豆腐、柳橙綠茶和抹茶紅豆冰.......不知道這樣是不是太多了一點......
Lucifer
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太超過!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

上面的老大(專司打雷和降雨的那位大神..)打電話要我轉告您…最好多吃點素…清淡點ㄦ的…大拉之後再任意摧殘…要再把你拖去照胃鏡喔…是很不健康的..而且臉青青的消瘦...一..點..ㄦ..也..不..帥...
多運動才是王道啊...臣等衷心諫言..請朱大三思後而下口..別那麼腮吃啦..拜託..

給內行人鹹x雞老闆..最近若您有看到朱學恒先生..請不要賣給他..但會有很多鄉民會去捧您的場子ㄉ..以彌補您的損失..謝謝!!


迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] • http://www.myoops.org
.....我....我的信箱裡面有何曼莊小姐的信件.....囧....而且據說她有在看本部落格....

Lucifer
幾個月前收到的,若有人需要請跟我聯絡~~~搞不好她妹就真的是你要找的人......這....這世界也太小了吧。
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世界一點ㄦ都不小...而是英明神武的朱大blog閱群廣大啊....

怎麼覺得那個..."囧"字...有點閃啊....
2008-09-07 @ 11:40
迴響 from: 只想說個故事購物台 [訪問者]

敝人沒啥看法...

只想尊重小護士一家人自個兒的決定...

祇想轉載個小故事:

老天自有安排
北歐的一座教堂裡,有一尊耶穌被釘在十字架的苦像,大小和一般人差不多。 因為有求必應,因此專程前到這裡祈禱,膜拜的人特別多,幾乎可以用門庭若市來形容。

教堂裡有位看門的人,看十字架上的耶穌,每天要應付這麼多人的要求,覺得於心不忍,他希望能分擔耶穌的辛苦。

有一天他祈禱時,向苦像上的耶穌表明了這份心願。 意外地,他聽到一個聲音,說:“好啊!我下來為你看門,你上來釘在十字架上。但是,不論你看到什麼、聽到什麼,都不可以說一句話。”這位先生覺得,這個要求簡單。

於是耶穌下來,看門的先生上去,像耶穌被釘十字架般地伸張雙臂,本來苦像雕刻得就和真人差不多,所以來膜拜的群眾不疑有他,而這位先生也依照先前的約定,靜默不語,聆聽信友的心聲。

來往的人潮絡繹不絕,他們的祈求,有合理的,有不合理的,千奇百怪不一而足。 但無論如何,他都強忍下來而沒有說話,因為他必須信守先前的承諾。

有一天,來了一位富商,當富商祈禱完後,竟然忘記手邊的錢便離去。 他看在眼裡,想叫這位富商回來,但是,他憋著不能說。 接著,來了一位三餐不繼的窮人,他祈禱耶穌能幫助它渡過生活的難關。 當要離去時,發現先前那位富商留下的袋子,打開,裡面全是錢。 窮人高興得不得了,耶穌真好,有求必應,萬分感謝地離去。 十字架上偽裝的耶穌看在眼裡,想告訴他,這不是你的。 但是,約定在先,他仍然憋著不能說。

接下來有一位要出海遠行的年輕人來到,他是來祈求耶穌降福他平安。 正當要離去時,富商衝進來,抓住年輕人的衣襟,要年輕人還錢,年輕人不明究理,兩人吵了起來。 這個時候,十字架上偽裝的耶穌終於忍不住,遂開口說話了。 繼然事情清楚了,富商便去找冒牌耶穌所形容的窮人,而年輕人則匆匆離去,生怕搭不上船。

偽裝成看門的耶穌出現,指著十字架上說:“你下來吧!那個位置你沒有資格了。”看門人說:“我把真相說出來,主持公道,難道不對嗎?”

耶穌說:“你懂得什麼?那位富商並不缺錢,他那袋錢不過用來嫖妓,可是對那位窮人,卻是可以挽回一家大小生計;最可憐的是那位年輕人,如果富商一直纏下去,延誤了他出海的時間,他還能保住一條命,而現在,他所搭乘的船正沉入海中。”

這是一個聽起來像笑話的寓言故事,卻透露出凡是冥冥中自有安排。 在現實生活中,我們常自認為怎麼樣才是最好的,但在神可能有更好的計劃。 如果我們了解這一點,就會相信,目前我們所擁有的,不論順境、逆境,都是神對我們最好的安排。 若能如此,我們才能在順境中感恩,在逆境中依舊心存喜樂。



請她(小妹妹)自己決定吧....其他就交給老天爺吧.....
2008-09-07 @ 11:44
迴響 from: 電腦白痴--46歲的我果然是恐龍時代 [訪問者]
迴響來自: ninny

那個..班長.(還是顧問?)
征露丸少點吃喔,有毒性(畢竟是用在打仗麻痺用的)
建議去藥房買"尹摸定"(日與發音,我不知道中文怎麼說..Orz)
2008-09-07 @ 12:09
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
(廣告插播時間)

嗯~咳咳~
來賓,一號桌ㄉ拉拉小姐、小波小姐、宅.男子先生、無盡.永恆先生~
請與櫃檯連絡~

Q;你們報名了嗎?
(希望一號桌至少可以到一半~)
2008-09-07 @ 12:16
迴響 from: 在下小護士 [訪問者]
真的,很感謝各位阿宅的意見哪!
近日家中為了這件我們認為攸關他未來
視為大事的事紛擾不已~
我妹妹的個性很沒有定性,別人說好就好的那種
對於他考上的系所
決定要重考的細項
去考警專的決定等等
我們全家人都有上網做過功課
去詢問過周遭有經歷過的親朋好友意見
在種種的考慮過後,才做出重考跟考警專的決定
我知道重考跟警專畢業後特考的困難
所以  我才希望他能了解一件事
[開始學會去參予關於自己未來的決定並且負起責任]
我認為只有他了解了這個道理
她才能認真負責的去走她自己的人生路
而他的態度開始讓我自己懷疑
我是不是變成了那種討人厭的"為你好大人"
而我又有什麼資格去為他的將來負責呢?
所以才想到要求助宅神朱大與眾阿宅們
畢竟阿宅世界無遠弗屆阿 ~
從他放榜到現在也快一個月了
我們跟他分析了這三個選擇的後果
最後他會怎麼選擇我現在也不太在乎了
我真的感謝你們
讓我看見了很多不同觀點
如果可以的話我還真想提供"中秋節豬肉抽獎活動"
(小護士家裡是小鄉下的養豬戶,
想說事務所這裡常常在抽獎來響應一下)
來感謝各位,只不過我現在要想一下宅配方法
最後:我在做決定的當下 都認為那是目前最好的決定了
至於正確與否,只能留待時間去證明了

我是女的,然後造成這些紛擾的是"妹妹"
不是弟弟啦(這個要澄清一下)

2008-09-07 @ 12:47
迴響 from: martian [訪問者]
恭喜小護士成功貼文!

(放煙火~)
2008-09-07 @ 12:54
迴響 from: 小護士 [訪問者]
我昨天晚上貼文也是不停失敗(冏)
還寫信給朱大
他跟我說1.你取消打勾了沒(這個我懂)
2.你打上e-mail了沒(我沒有)
今天我一次就成功咧 ~
這真是太神奇啦!!!!!

2008-09-07 @ 13:47
迴響 from: 邪惡阿宅 [訪問者]
縮圖
IE 7 可以
小狐 可以
Chrome 不行
我手上只有這3種瀏覽器
2008-09-07 @ 14:48
迴響 from: 所羅門的惡夢 [訪問者]
我媽在我小時候說:
別打電動..長大了愛打多久都行
現在說:
都幾歲了還在玩小孩子玩的東西

哈哈...結果我全當作耳邊風..從小玩到大
2008-09-07 @ 17:10
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
如果有肉可以烤....中秋節倒是想出去走走,不要宅在家裡"-Q-)~3

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股民請不要燒炭,人生還有很多選擇....比如和大家去賞月烤肉。
2008-09-07 @ 17:10
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
股民請不要燒炭,人生還有很多選擇....比如和大家去賞月烤肉。
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對啊!根據事實證明,有些燒炭的人因為怕炭火離人太遠影響效果,所以把炭盆放在旁邊,結果人在昏迷後滾落在炭盆上,人被燙傷後醒來,身體的肉被烤熟然後醒來.....我覺得這比死還可怕........囧"
2008-09-07 @ 18:28
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
呱~ 那也是烤肉沒錯(汗
2008-09-07 @ 20:34
迴響 from: 歷史邪家 [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/draco-liu
啊,我本來看到這篇文章之後,也想寫寫我以前悲慘的經驗讓小護士的妹參考參考
沒想到活動已經結束,小護士都已經貼上答謝文了說,我的動作實在太慢了

既然這樣,我想問個問題
那未果子的照片... 她的左臉前方的那個看起來白白很大的一個東西是什麼?
不管我怎麼看,都看不出來
而且不是我邪惡,可是那個形狀有點尷尬啊,很像男阿宅身上都會有的某種組織,可是又不曾使用過的(羞)
問這個問題會不會太超過?
2008-09-07 @ 22:04
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 歷史邪家 [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/draco-
而且不是我邪惡,可是那個形狀有點尷尬啊,很像男阿宅身上都會有的某種組織,可是又不曾使用過的(羞)
問這個問題會不會太超過?
=============================
是指"大腦"嗎?


啊偶一不小心就變成男阿宅的公敵了XD!
2008-09-07 @ 22:06
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 電腦白痴--46歲的我果然是恐龍時代 [訪問者]
迴響來自: ninny

那個..班長.(還是顧問?)
征露丸少點吃喔,有毒性(畢竟是用在打仗麻痺用的)
建議去藥房買"尹摸定"(日與發音,我不知道中文怎麼說..Orz)
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話說可能是小時候吃多征露丸的關係,本人練就一身鐵胃的功夫,不管是臭酸的麵或是什麼垃圾食物,吃進去之後依然可以拉出漂亮的大便XD!


不過自從開始養生之後,吃辣的功力就大減啊......囧"
連吃個泡菜泡麵都拉的亂七八糟XD!
2008-09-07 @ 22:09
迴響 from: Adam [訪問者]
那是果子的左手, 因為趴下的關係, 往前伸展, 超過鏡頭的景深, 所以糊成白白的一片.

不過我怎麼想不出來男阿宅身上有啥組織會看起來像這樣白糊糊的呢? 我也是宅男沒錯啊? 怎麼我身上找不出來? 還請歷史邪家來明示一下, 當然, 有圖有真相, 自拍一張來展示那就最好了. 科科~~~~~
2008-09-07 @ 22:11
迴響 from: Vapor [訪問者]
別那魔快死 ...


2008-09-07 @ 22:11
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]
呃....ninny....
第二個不是我喔
不知道誰用我的名字
2008-09-07 @ 22:14
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]
對了,自殺手冊我有耶...我還有完全中毒手冊、完全病死手冊、完全失蹤手冊....(略)
本來想找另一本復仇手冊的
結果出版社回收了
2008-09-07 @ 22:17
我們家的三歲小孩看到那香腸嚇一跳
2008-09-07 @ 22:18
迴響 from: Truman [訪問者]
拉出糊成白白的大便XD!

自拍一張來展示那就最好了. 科科 + 1


2008-09-07 @ 22:24
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: DRack [訪問者]
對了,自殺手冊我有耶...我還有完全中毒手冊、完全病死手冊、完全失蹤手冊....(略)
本來想找另一本復仇手冊的
結果出版社回收了
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可是完全自殺手冊明明就很搞笑啊.......起碼偶看了是哈哈大笑啦......囧"
2008-09-07 @ 22:25
迴響 from: eating Dino [訪問者]
為什麼人生那麼多兩難???

又要節能減碳
又要替豬農雞農生活著想

有沒有更好的方法啊啊啊~~
2008-09-07 @ 22:36
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: eating Dino [訪問者]
為什麼人生那麼多兩難???

又要節能減碳
又要替豬農雞農生活著想

有沒有更好的方法啊啊啊~~
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哪有兩難........想烤的就烤、不想烤的就不要烤就好啦XD!
不然就把肉買回家用煮的,不也是一個解決辦法?

如果只是要趁中秋節聯絡感情,沒有人規定"一定要烤肉"吧?
大家聚在一起吃頓飯不也是一樣嘛.......囧"
2008-09-07 @ 22:41
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]
可是完全自殺手冊明明就很搞笑啊.......起碼偶看了是哈哈大笑啦......囧"
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那本書本來的用意就是讓人不要自殺啦...雖然不是讓你笑的
說到好笑...我想起之前看到有人貼詭異的日本KUSO的產品說明書

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/368543940_886a9a61e5_o.jpg

2008-09-07 @ 22:46
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]
迴響來自: eating Dino [訪問者]
為什麼人生那麼多兩難???

又要節能減碳
又要替豬農雞農生活著想

有沒有更好的方法啊啊啊~~
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聽說雖然烤肉用具賣不好
燒肉店生意倒是成長耶
2008-09-07 @ 22:48
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: DRack [訪問者]

那本書本來的用意就是讓人不要自殺啦...雖然不是讓你笑的
說到好笑...我想起之前看到有人貼詭異的日本KUSO的產品說明書

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/368543940_886a9a61e5_o.jpg
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產品說明書這個看過了XD!



我的笑點真的很低........Orz
可是在尼古丁水裡面加果糖這一段真的很好笑啊XD!
2008-09-07 @ 22:48
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: DRack [訪問者]

聽說雖然烤肉用具賣不好
燒肉店生意倒是成長耶
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可是偶看了家樂福的目錄之後好想買一台像手推車的那種烤肉架喔......遠目



但是下星期還是想煮香菇雞耶XD!
2008-09-07 @ 22:51
迴響 from: 我想烤肉(嘟嘴) [訪問者]
說真的,一年就這麼一次烤肉
要說有多少人是為了愛吃烤肉而烤
我也不大相信
應該只有小朋友愛吃吧

主要是喜歡那種氣氛
自由自在地和家人、朋友聊天
享受一種住家附近的「戶外」生活
又能欣賞夜景
又能幫助豬農、雞農…(也會買其他蔬菜)

我是贊成烤肉的~

(但是請大家不要亂丟垃圾)
2008-09-07 @ 22:53
迴響 from: eating Dino [訪問者]
往年BBQ 幾乎是全民運動耶,那是超乎聯絡感情之上滴!
2008-09-07 @ 22:58
迴響 from: 我就是跌了一跤才知道痛的那種人…科科科 [訪問者]
讀大學、跟從教育體制不是唯一的路,真正該想的是如何成為有獨立思考的個體;今天妳妹妹反抗,我覺得不錯,因為這是她開始思考人生決策的開始。

每個人都是獨立的個體,今天她說什麼話做什麼事都該讓她自己負責;人生會自己找出路的…
2008-09-07 @ 23:12
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
大家晚上好~~

(累的vita)
2008-09-07 @ 23:13
迴響 from: vita [訪問者]
嗯嗯
大家都熱烈的給意見~
討論的很認真吶。

(覺得果子也很美的vita)
2008-09-08 @ 00:18
迴響 from: allmineral [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/mineral-1978
>ninny

「大劊人心」和「發條橘子」要表達的一點都不依樣阿!!!

發條橘子在批判的是箝制人性,大快人心則是挑戰人性與觀眾本身的觀看邏輯心理

而且舊版的「大快人心」(新版的「大劊人心」看了預告很沒有動力去看)相當後設,

我覺得最好看的部分也是電影衝破了螢幕直接賞觀眾一巴掌的後設力量,

這個反思的效果超越了劇情本身,驚悚片不見血、

而且那股壓抑的戲劇張力真是太好看了(雖然聽說新版很難看)

2008-09-08 @ 00:25
迴響 from: Isabella [訪問者]
大腸直腸癌,飲食習慣是元兇 2008-03-20
根據衛生署統計,自民國84年起,大腸直腸癌成為臺灣地區主要癌症死亡原因的第三名,僅次於肝癌及肺癌;民國94年,則有4,111人死於大腸直腸癌。在臺灣,大腸直腸癌的研究已近成熟,飆高的死亡率也逐漸引起國人的注意。文件研究顯示,飲食習慣的改變被認為是直接的元兇。然而,不僅飲食因素,其發生也與潰瘍性大腸炎、大腸瘜肉及家族性有關係。

一般而言,如果家屬中曾有大腸直腸癌病史者,其罹患大腸直腸癌之機率比一般人多出數倍之多。另外,大約有百分之九十以上之大腸癌皆由大腸瘜肉惡性變化產生,故大腸瘜肉的早期發現與處置非常重要。若能「早期診斷、早期發現、早期治療」,五年生存率非常高,治癒率可高過75%。

新店耕莘醫院大腸直腸外科醫師 嚴守智指出,大腸直腸癌主要發生部位以直腸乙狀結腸及降結腸最多,其餘發生於盲腸、升結腸、橫結腸。左側大腸因為離肛門較近,所以容易出現肛門出血的症狀,同時也較容易因腫瘤長大而壓迫使糞便變細、便祕、腹瀉,甚至使腸道阻塞;右側大腸因管徑較大,很少引起阻塞,較典型的症狀為慢性大腸出血而造成貧血。

大腸直腸癌的診斷主要根據病史及大便潛血檢查及血色素的測定、肛門指診、直腸鏡檢、大腸X光鋇劑檢查與大腸鏡檢。手術治療是大腸直腸癌唯一根治的療法。診斷後要盡早切除,而其他輔助療法有放射治療、化學藥物治療及免疫療法等。 如何預防大腸直腸癌,遵從下列建議是必要的:

1.) 多吃蔬菜及含纖維素之食物,少吃動物性脂肪(尤其是牛肉)、高膽固醇、油炸食物等,啤酒也不要喝太多。另外,也應攝取足夠之維生素A、D、E、C及礦物質鈣、硒等元素;硒元素之來源包括小麥胚芽、大蒜、麩糠、鮪魚、洋蔥、蕃茄、甘藍菜等。
2.) 養成每天排便之習慣,以減少致癌物質在腸內存留之時間。
3.) 多數的大腸癌是由大腸瘜肉轉變來的,如果能早期摘除這類具有癌變潛力的瘜肉的話,就能預防繼發的大腸癌。
在臺灣,雖然醫療觀念已逐漸開放,大腸直腸的檢查方式也很簡易且進步,可惜仍然常常可見延誤的病例,例如將直腸癌當做痔瘡、大腸癌當成腸胃炎,而未能及時找專業醫師做適當的診斷與治療。在此提醒四十歲以上的人,尤其是已經出現症狀或屬於高危險群的人,接受大腸X光鋇劑檢查或大腸鏡檢是有必要的。

資料來源:http://www.uho.com.tw/hotnews.asp?aid=4274

還有另一篇...

少運動多脂肪 結腸直腸癌躍居國人癌症第2 2008/09/05
隨著民眾飲食西化,加上平時缺乏運動,讓國人結腸直腸癌發生人數逐年攀升,根據癌症登記統計指出...衛生署國民健康局癌症防治組組長孔憲蘭表示,結腸直腸癌的發生原因其實跟民眾飲食西化,不愛吃高纖維素的蔬果...
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/080905/58/15eij.html

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朱大~
請好好愛護自己喔~
你是宅界的寶呢~
2008-09-08 @ 00:56
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
朱大的狀況好像一直沒有改善呢
常常留言到一半就跑去廁所了
請大家一起幫他集氣

集氣串聯專區:
http://www.meso.idv.tw/blog/080907_odaku_j.jpg

請告訴我豬籠在哪,等下我自己鑽進去
2008-09-08 @ 01:23
迴響 from: slimn [訪問者]
當他的夢碎了?
能不能早點問他
"有沒有除了當護士以外第二條想走的路?"
給他意見參考就好,而不是流於洗腦...硬是要他選你們要的

都這麼大了,讓他獨立思考吧
其實也還好...
填錯的或不喜歡的系總是能靠轉學考/轉系考彌補不是嗎?

但前提是"別太晚作決定"

PS.轉學考通常有考古題,學校要搶人通常題目很簡單...

想當初我1~90個志願全部填資管,看也不看學校的...

2008-09-08 @ 06:30
迴響 from: 番薯 [訪問者]
又一個案例...
整篇文章看下來都是你在講,什麼時候輪到你妹妹講?
她喜歡什麼?
她想要什麼?
她為什麼那麼執卓?
你為什麼又那麼執卓她的人生?
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大學選志願的時候,我的志願跟家人衝突,不管我說我要自己付學費還是生活費也自理,他們都不讓我選我想要的系所
那時候我問了他們一句"我能為我的未來負責...你能為我的未來負責嗎?"

四年下來,每次期中考我都要吃安眠藥才能入睡
大三那年還因為吃錯藥而洗腎

洗完腎後我等到的答案是: "對不起"..."我也不知道"...."我不是故意的"



我現在不負責任的代替你妹問你一個問題...
"你打算怎樣為他人的未來負責?"
2008-09-08 @ 07:40
迴響 from: 來人吶..把他抓起來…購物台 [訪問者]

哈哈哈哈…..

拉拉兄…你...你…你….你……

請多保重!!
2008-09-08 @ 08:58
迴響 from: 殘月 [訪問者]
贊成讓妹妹自己做決定+1...

家人和姊姊的關心,立意是良好沒錯,但,人生是妺妹自己的,永遠幫她做決定,就算她屈服順從了,心裡還是永遠有個聲音再迴響著:這不是我要的!這不是我要的!這不是我要的!!!
(↑echo請參考「這不是肯德基」的語調0v0)

我國中畢業後想去唸美工,阿娘用「以後好找工作」的理由,硬要我選了商科,唸是唸了,學商學到大學畢,成績也都很好,然後...
我現在的工作是在網路工作室做視覺設計。繞了一大圈,結果還是走了美工這條路= ="

當然,我還是很感謝阿娘的用心和立意,但有時難免也會為花了這麼多時間在不喜歡的東西,而沒有去學真心想要的東西,感到有些可惜...
2008-09-08 @ 09:03
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
迴響來自: 來人吶..把他抓起來…購物台 [訪問者]

請大家一起來響應
咱們不正常人類研究中心
2008-09-08 @ 09:08
迴響 from: 來人吶..把他抓起來…購物台 [訪問者]

難得朱大好久沒發吃史牌了....

喔喔喔....拉拉兄準備吃他的拉希了.......ㄎㄎㄎ....
2008-09-08 @ 09:10
迴響 from: jasonpid [訪問者]
朱學恆給予年輕學子的鼓勵則是:「為自己的選擇負責,因為你的人生只有自己可以負責」。你可以選擇讓生命璨爛,也可以選擇讓它荒蕪,不過在一念之間罷了。

之前看到朱大的報導,就把這句話記在心中了,雖然我是只比朱大小一歲的電子阿宅,但這句話對我真的很有幫助。父母及別人可以給予建議,但決定權一直都在自己身上,就算小護士的妹妹選擇了自己的路,那也是她的選擇哩。
2008-09-08 @ 09:33
迴響 from: bmilk [訪問者]
潛水了很久...第二次浮上水面...

我以前高中填大學志願的時候
也是自己想填什麼就填什麼
父母雖然不滿意但也沒特別干涉
到現在而立之年
如果你問我依照父母的意思填會不會比較好
我想答案是會
但你問我會不會後悔
我會可惜...但是不會後悔...
畢竟是自己的決定...當初也一直認為自己可以承受萬一錯誤的狀況...
雖然代價比我當初想的大的多...

我想真的是自己決定的路...才有辦法說服自己不後悔...
不過旁人適度的提供案例或資料是必要的...
在沒有非常肯定自己興趣的前提下...
畢竟越多的資料越能提高最後選擇的正確性...
正確的了解才不會有虛幻的憧憬...

最後抱怨一下...
X...如果那時候有網路有大神有系所展覽...或許就不會做出自以為是的選擇了...

2008-09-08 @ 09:34
迴響 from: jasonpid [訪問者]
靠妖~ 發完文才發現事件解決了~~~ Orz~
完全的Lag了~
2008-09-08 @ 09:41
迴響 from: 嘖嘖嘖~~~ [訪問者]
居然真的會有這種食物中毒還不看醫生的--
宇宙超級無敵大笨蛋!!!

是想破金氏世界紀錄哦!
快去找醫生啦!
2008-09-08 @ 10:10
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
迴響來自: 嘖嘖嘖~~~ [訪問者]

顯然朱豪宅比較信任傳統的集氣療法
集氣!集氣!真是身為阿宅人,屎為阿宅糞的最佳典範!!
請大家一幫朱豪宅集氣

集氣方法請往上爬12樓有公告
2008-09-08 @ 10:45
迴響 from: 鳳梨小美人 [訪問者]
其實,你們愛的不是小妹妹,而是怕她拖累你們,如果他唸了沒有前途(你們覺得)的科系,以後找不到工作,無法養活自己,就要麻煩你們了....

其實,你們愛的是自己,是世俗的眼光,如果他以後沒有好的工作,會讓你們丟臉?

其實,你們根本不希望她獨立,不希望她有自己的想法,不希望她以自己為傲,而你們也覺得她沒有機會及能力讓你們以她為傲?

你妹妹已經唸完6年小學+3年國中+3年高中還這樣無能,連自己的前途都無法思考,我們國家的憲法可是規定20歲的人就可以決定國家的未來,直選總統了呢!這樣說來我們不是很危險?

真正該學的是你們,學著如何放手,學著如何相信別人,學著拋棄以{為你好}掩飾的自大!
2008-09-08 @ 10:49
迴響 from: baabuu-阿宅聚會照片請按右邊網址 [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
to 小護士
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我們必須教導現在的學生,畢業後投入目前還不存在的工作...
使用根本還沒發明的科技...
解決我們從未想像過的問題。

請參閱
文章詳細資料: 我們的未來?
http://blogs.myoops.org/lucifer.php/2007/04/04/a_a_c_a_oaf_if
2008-09-08 @ 11:12
迴響 from: 伊凡斯 [訪問者]
個人覺得大學四年最重要的一件事就是 try

無論是人際、社團、打工、修課、聯誼、系學會等等,整個大學生涯其實有如一個社會的小縮影,可以在這裡面盡情的去嘗試跟參與,最後再摸索及找出自己真正的出路,這才是唸大學最重要的課題

有時我們以為我們苦口婆心的為別人想時,其實很多時候是給對方帶來喘不過氣的壓力,這壓力終究是會反彈到我們自己身上,所造成的結果就是彼此的關係對立跟無限的爭執

建議妳們全家一起看看Randy Pausch教授《人生的最後一堂課》的演講片段,一起看看朱大為Randy Pausch教授特別寫的幾篇blog,然後再來一起討論接下來該怎麼做

我...認真了 XDD
2008-09-08 @ 11:23
迴響 from: 壁女熟女魚干女 [訪問者]
第二次跳出來…
看到這才知道自己真的很幸福,感謝我家人讓我一路上都自己對自己的人生負責。
我家的小孩,要讀什麼,要做什麼工作,甚至於要跟誰結婚,我爸媽都不會干涉。
這並不代表他們不關心,我很抱歉,不知讓我媽為我哭過幾次了。
因為我一路上走來不知跌倒過幾次,而且跌的很慘。
在你跌倒時,才知道家人永遠是家人,他們的支持和鼓勵讓我一次又一次一站起來。
直到現在的成就也沒有說很大,只能說能養活自己。
甚至有些人會覺得我很失敗,那又如何?至少我覺得我過的很快樂,真的。

你覺得對他好,問題是什麼是好?賺的錢多?還是她過的快樂?
想到我讀大學時,還真的沒想那麼多,是我太幸福還是現在的小孩太可憐啊。

我很多20出頭的朋友,唉呀,我想,他們大概是大家口中那些愛玩沒有未來的年輕人吧。
一個重考三年才考到大學,一個20歲了還在念高中,還有一個高中讀完就不繼續升學了。
可是我並不會覺得他們沒前途,因為我知道他們正在學習,摸索,找出自己的路。
一路上我看他們跌跌撞撞,從只顧著玩,到現在漸漸的開始認真讀書、工作,找到自己要做的事。
偶爾他們問我,我都對他們說,「你們還這麼年輕,還有很多時間可以嘗試你們想做的事是什麼,不要放棄自己就對了,就算辛苦,也是自己的人生,你要自己負責的。」
我只能說,真的,人生,至少,30才開始。
雖然我已經過了...0rz

繼續潛....
2008-09-08 @ 11:51
迴響 from: 無意間經過的路人 [訪問者]
愛她、教他、關懷他、包容他

然後放開他!!!!!
2008-09-08 @ 11:56
迴響 from: MIU [訪問者]
MESO 大

你可以再狠一點(殴)

拉出來的是幾萬克,WE WILL BE LOVED!!!!
2008-09-08 @ 12:10
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: allmineral [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/mineral-1978
>ninny

「大劊人心」和「發條橘子」要表達的一點都不依樣阿!!!

發條橘子在批判的是箝制人性,大快人心則是挑戰人性與觀眾本身的觀看邏輯心理

而且舊版的「大快人心」(新版的「大劊人心」看了預告很沒有動力去看)相當後設,

我覺得最好看的部分也是電影衝破了螢幕直接賞觀眾一巴掌的後設力量,

這個反思的效果超越了劇情本身,驚悚片不見血、

而且那股壓抑的戲劇張力真是太好看了(雖然聽說新版很難看)
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可是我一看到大劊人心的預告(就是虐待一家三口那一段),很直覺的就想到發條橘子........囧"
可能是因為主角都是年輕人、背景都在放音樂......囧"


話說發條橘子的結局那一章可以撕掉算了XD!

2008-09-08 @ 12:31
迴響 from: eating Dino [訪問者]
讓我們以香腸朱為榮

香腸夾台北貝果~~~~好好吃!!
2008-09-08 @ 12:37
迴響 from: ninny [訪問者]
迴響來自: 思路異常清晰的失眠者 [訪問者]

我是個信仰基督的人,請原諒我以聖經的思維看待這件事,我個人很害怕向神如同拜拜般的求任何事,因為若是有所應許很可能會是出乎期待外的痛苦過程,且其結果可能給了所期待的結果或是藉著過程讓自己認知到當初所求是不應該的,總之會有結論,無論好壞。
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我覺得人出生啊,就是要來學習的,所以神不會給你負擔不了的功課。
2008-09-08 @ 13:06
迴響 from: ***** [訪問者]
ㄎㄎㄎ

我是不喜歡吃烤肉的

但是烤一張空頭支票也很爽!!!
2008-09-08 @ 13:06
迴響 from: 冷眼 [訪問者]
關於小護士的妹妹
我覺得在社會上,學力只是門砍(不選字,是一種個性)
妹妹如果有心向上,就算是爛大學畢業,將來還是可以混的很好
妹妹如果只知玩樂,就算上了警專,也考不上特考
越早讓他吃到苦頭,他能爬起來的更快
越保護他,他永遠不知痛
等到他痛了,想爬起來,那時更難爬

懂事的小孩跟不懂事的小孩差別是很大的
對懂事的小孩可以保護他,用別人失敗的教訓變成他的經驗,讓他不用再失敗一次
不懂事的小孩,就只能讓他自已從自已的失敗中學習

你要保護他,就要先了解他
明明是一個魔法師,你硬要把他當騎士用,他不趴才有鬼
2008-09-08 @ 13:24
迴響 from: oskar-何止啊,朱大根本就是一個奈良重雄般的紳士啊! [訪問者]
迴響來自: Z.M. [訪問者] · http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/zong-ming/
說一個 我老媽 跟我二舅舅的故事

我老媽 高職畢業
我二舅舅 大學中文系畢業

我老媽 20多年前晚上讀夜校 白天工作 寄錢回家裡
我二舅舅 20多年前年輕時 拿著家裡的錢 白天讀大學

我老媽 告訴二舅舅讀中文沒有前途 北上兩次勸他轉系唸英文
我二舅舅 告訴我老媽 唸中文是他的理想 寫書他的目標

我老媽 現在經歷人生起伏 獨立撫養兩個孩子 現在經營事業穩定
我二舅舅 現在正在經歷人生起伏 兩個孩子由老婆扶養 失業中

我老媽 曾經死了老公 又嫁了老公 曾經負債累累 現在衣食無虞
曾經努力工作 但是卻沒有收入 現在為理想工作 有了報償

我二舅舅 曾經大學畢業高人一等 但苦於現實壓力 步入保險事業
曾經寫書出書 但卻沒有報償 現在舅媽癌症 經濟困難

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抱歉接下來的話有點酸
不過我是對事情而已,先向你致聲歉

如果 李安他的戲沒有紅 沒有大賣
他可能跟你二舅相比 好不到哪去

追求理想要付出的機會成本
到底是不是那個人自身 與他的家人
能夠而且願意承受的
實在很難說

不是有句詩這樣說

周公畏懼流言日
王莽禮賢下士時

我給原po的意見是 妳可以關心他
給你的親人 情感上 實質上的支持
但是不要幫他做決定,或是試圖影響他。
一旦我們對於任何人的決定作了影響,
那我們就勢必得對於那些決定帶來的相關問題負責任。
20歲了
他要念什麼書 要不要找資料 要不要問先進 錢怎麼來
未來會怎樣 要不要交男朋友 什麼時候要上床...
我們管不到那麼多一切
但是,讓他自己做決定,
是讓他學會自己負責自己的人生跟獨立的第一步。

旁人總是說得輕巧,孤妄聽之吧。
(我們家從高中開始就不管妳想幹嘛了,我爸只有幾點要求,唸書只能念公立,考不上就跟他做工。念理組不可念文組=>這一點真的蠻實在的。其他我想幹嘛,他都不管,大學開始學費自籌,生活費自理。)
2008-09-08 @ 14:00
迴響 from: 夏夜 [訪問者]
流浪警察將成為下一波長期失業潮
沒有自以為很秀優
就別浪費時間, 浪費錢去唸了~
2008-09-08 @ 14:20
迴響 from: oskar-何止啊,朱大根本就是一個奈良重雄般的紳士啊! [訪問者]
迴響來自: 失憶老人 [訪問者]
這個問題的答案很簡單。

我說說自己的親身經驗好了。
考高中那年我高分落榜,很想重考,我認為自己重考應該能上好學校。但是我哥告訴我有一間名校有夜間部,我一定可以輕鬆考上那間學校的夜間部。
「你是為了讀大學才唸高中的,所以應該選一間讀書風氣好的學校;而不是重考然後也許沒辦法念這間學校。」

我從前一天晚上哭到隔天清晨四點,做了決定,雖然這個決定可抗爭的機率趨近於零。
那三年的求學路程是很心酸的。名校的名氣越大,我們就越是被漠視,以及輕視。
是的,輕視。高三一整年,白天我都在學校圖書館看書;有天圖書館有活動不能使用,我們就到某間教室看書。
不久,後排座位進來2個日間部小高一,開始嚼夜間部的舌根。
我和同學越聽越不入耳,直到一句「他們功課本來就比較差啊」,我們兩人低聲說「走吧」,起立離開那間教室,繼續去另一間為我們自己的人生奮鬥。

後來我的分數,最好也只能填上政大中文、歷史等志願,也算名校了,終於可以真正當個唸名校的人;即使我現在非常討厭名校畢業的人的氣焰。
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拍拍(安慰貌)
我有經歷過有點跟你類似的事情
不完全一樣

高中我前兩年,每個上學期至少要當3-4科,下學期all pass補回。
學校是升學的公立高中,因此功課不好其實有點糟糕。
至少那些功課好的人瞧妳是不大好。
打不進他們的圈子。
社團我玩得很大,校內校外都走得開。
雖然說我看得世界跟其他人不一樣。
但是高三還是要回到地面跟大家一起努力。
我英文一開始很差,也曾被老師叫起來,當著我的面,指著我罵我草包班長,叫大家趕快把我換掉。
(我從沒有怨過我的老師,不管是私底下或是任何時後,因為我們彼此都知道,不為也,非不能也,因此他才發飆的)
高三一起唸書的時候,我還記得某些功課好的同學,
看著我竊竊私語,略帶鄙視的斜眼笑著。
因為我得要補回兩年的空白要追上他們真得不容易。
結果我就贏了,因為天分不一樣,這邊就不講了,因為沒意義。

上了台大之後,有天在路上遇到一位台大外文的同學
他看到我跟他打招呼非常驚訝
就問我:「Oskar你為什麼會在這裡?」用很驚訝的表情
我說:「我也念台大啊!」
外文女:「怎麼可能!!??」
我:「囧rz」

之後,我再也沒看過這女生。
可能是他表現平平或是被二一吧,我不知道。
後來我認識幾個蠻優秀的外文系同學,就是怎麼著都沒有在遇過這個人。

真正厲害的人,才沒有心思在納編竊竊私語、在那邊小鼻子眼睛跟你比這個比那個的。
他們都有自己的目標、自己想做的事情。
人家住在天外天的人外人,有必要跟你比嘛?
他們如果整天都在比東比西,怎麼會變成人外人?
而且那些極為優秀的人當中,很多人都很謙虛很隨和很好相處。
可是他們在他們的專長領域卻是強到一塌糊塗。
真正愛那邊酸別人的,通常都是普通角色。

凡吹牛必要舉例 http://yingying.tw/ 史茵茵的音樂盒
這是我外文系同屆的朋友
我是在上現代舞認識她的,我跟他還有一個共同的朋友。(主要是透過那個共同的朋友才跟茵茵熟起來)
學歷就不要講了好得嚇人
一女中接著台大外文,外文畢業就去念哈佛的MS。(內容也許不是頂優啦,但是對我這普通人來說已經不賴了,請別戰)
背景是隱私就不講抱歉,反正也算是留著藍色的血吧。
但是,他真得是一個很好相處的人,
不僅是正妹(這對阿宅很重要)
體貼、善良、溫柔又好相處(這對於害羞內向的阿宅更為重要)
當時我有幫忙他一些小事情
他後來出國第一年回來的時候
還特地找了我們共同的朋友,請我吃飯。(對於慣當好人的阿宅很客氣,這更重要)
年輕、優秀、漂亮、聰明、出身背景好,我甚至還沒找到缺點的這樣優秀的人
他根本不跟你搞那種小鼻子眼睛的東西的。

抱歉,說了一堆廢話,
只是想告訴你,那些竊竊私語的人,不是真菁英
走自己的路,別管他們就是嚕。
加油,共勉。

順道一說,茵茵去星光大道會輸我個人以為有兩點原因
1.key挑的不對
2.misia的everything這首歌的情緒要靠不斷的一段一段唱才能堆疊上去,非常不適合這種只唱一小段副歌的比賽。
3.輸了就輸了,茵茵現在很努力,有興趣的上去網站給他加油一下吧,感謝。
2008-09-08 @ 14:29
迴響 from: 老大可還安好?購物台 [訪問者]

阿勒...朱大上那兒去啦?...出來報平安一下啦...
2008-09-08 @ 15:14
迴響 from: Billy [訪問者]
我覺得啦...還是要讓小妹自己做決定,做家人的就只能在旁邊支持他吧,
畢竟要自己摸索過人才會長大的.
2008-09-08 @ 15:37
迴響 from: 宅友 [訪問者]
大大的說明一點也沒錯

讓您的妹妹到地獄走一遭看看吧

不然就自己帶他到地獄走一遭吧

如果她真的這麼被動
2008-09-08 @ 16:31
迴響 from: oskar-何止啊,朱大根本就是一個奈良重雄般的紳士啊! [訪問者]

迴響來自: linfavourite [訪問者] · http://linfavourite.blogspot.com
啊啊,其实还蛮了解你对妹妹的疼爱的,因为我也有妹妹,只是我是男的而已……(好像没有必要说出来……算了……)

我妹妹现在高中二,因为她是读国立中学的,然后在我这里(马来西亚),国立高中只读两年,所以她今年就毕业了。问题是……这位大小姐想做空中小姐……那也算了,不过她……她……竟然不懂大学该读什么科目好……TT(老妹……,我服了你……)

一开始她说要当空姐的时候,全家都很担心,反对的家人也有。主要是因为空姐很难做一辈子。除非以后决定在地上柜台做,不然到三十岁后就不能在飞机上做了。而我其实也是偷偷地反对,因为我常上网,知道空姐是个标准的体力白领,要服侍乘客,还必须要面带笑容,万一不好被某些烂学长带到的话,那简直是到了地狱啊!

可是问题是,当我告诉我妹这些事情的时候,我妹妹还是说她想做空姐。我也没有说什么了。毕竟人生是她自己的,该由她自己选择,不是吗?我们家人有资格、权力做的只有两点,第一:给予意见;第二:担心的要命,仅此而已!

我现在就真的很担心她啊……在家十指不沾阳春水的大小姐,竟然要去当空姐……怎样都无法不担心!所以虽然她本身其实不大想读大学或者上大专,我还是鼓励她去上。至少万一她发现空姐不如她想象的美好,想换个职业时,还可以有所退路。结果,她现在说不懂该读什么科目好……= =lll 又不要读理科,电脑也没有兴趣,商业也不大有意愿要去读……现在只能等她解决国立高中统一考试(这里简称SPM~)先才打算了。

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去年才從深圳回來,對簡體字很有感覺所以我要回一下這一篇。

我有個師妹(台灣這邊用法是 學妹)台灣大學植物病理系畢業
是個正妹,畢業後他就去當空姐了。
雖然我沒有當過空姐,但是我想說的是我應該比完全不瞭解空姐的人稍微瞭解一點。
我很同意你說的,空姐是標準的體力白領。
雖然阿宅界盛傳空姐=正妹,但是個人去年飛航的經驗來說,這樣的說法就跟拔獅子的鬃毛可以治禿頭的可信度是相近的。
但是呢,通常嚮往空姐生活的人都是幻想生活在美女的世界,
政商名流圍繞的生活。
這是錯的,但是他們沒必要知道錯的地方在哪裡,因為他們也不能體會。
我覺得最實際的方式就是一點來測試就很準。
我學妹當時打工的地方是一家台灣很有名的五星級飯店當端盤子的服務生。
在她的看法來說,空姐要做的事情基本上跟在五星級內當服務生相差不遠。
因為他本來就很喜歡服務業的工作,也就是說蠻喜歡服務人的感覺,
所以他延續著進入空姐服務的生活的時候,工作上還算適應。
只是就像你後面說到的,空姐的生活是講輩份的,特別在華航內更是這樣,就像台灣男生在當兵一樣,
一進去,大家就開始比老,開始熬經驗,老的玩菜的
加上,排班是很多人在輪調的,就算飛固定的地方,可是每次一起飛的同事可能都是會頻繁的換,再加上每次飛得時候都有一堆事情要做,大家是來工作的,不是來交朋友。
每個空姐平均都要服務幾十個人,短時間內要密集完成那麼多服務是很累的。
再者,
(這一點是我跟空姐在飛機上聊天的時候他親自的現身說法)
33歲很有氣質、活潑的正妹空姐,服務8年了,他覺得這工作最糟糕的一點是,他們不能有正常的社交環境,
他們休假的時候,都是正常人上班的時候,
正常人下班時,他們可能正在飛機上忙得焦頭爛額準備要飛,
然後,他們下班之後,想要找人聊天、談心、msn也都沒人了
跟誰約會?(如果妳不是年輕極正妹又恰巧遇上機緣,哪來那麼多小開)
他連好朋友都沒辦法經常聯絡,甚至需要她的時候也找不到。
他說這些話的時候,神情真得很落寞,
要不是是在飛機上,我就...
站起身來,拍拍她的肩膀安慰他(阿宅都很會安慰人)
既然是萍水相逢所以我也是只能發揮我的才能,
很認真的說笑給他聽,讓他呵呵笑個不停。(阿宅通常有很會逗人開心的技能)

總結幾點:
1.妳可以建議他去打工,找服務業的,特別是高級餐廳端盤子試試看,可以幫助他瞭解空姐工作的內容為何。瞭解真相,對於停止一個人繼續不恰當的幻想,具有某種程度的好處。
2.空姐的優缺點分析:優點可以請妳妹妹自己說
缺點就像剛剛妳我都有講到
體力白領的工作、日夜顛倒的生活作息、不正常的社交生活圈(這可能會影響到他跟家人、朋友的互動)、未來人生的發展(這點不建議講,對於一個沒考高中的人,如果他懂得會去想未來人生法展的優勝劣敗、是非好壞,這樣的人做什麼都會很有成就。但是大部分的人都是正常人,並不異常,在不瞭解之中找答案,在錯誤之中學習方法,在迷失的悔恨之中成長,一步一步的找到自己的目標,才是真正的人生吧。)
3.更好的目標規劃:
空姐目前來說對他不僅是美夢,而且是跳脫於目前高考困境的一個遠景。如果能夠幫他構築一個更好的目標規劃,空姐自然不會再是他優先考慮的選擇。

每次講到空姐就會想打一堆東西,來鋪陳我認識好幾個空姐的心得,真累。(阿宅講重點總是需要隱藏重點在故事之中)
2008-09-08 @ 18:11
迴響 from: oskar-何止啊,朱大根本就是一個奈良重雄般的紳士啊! [訪問者]
可是问题是,当我告诉我妹这些事情的时候,我妹妹还是说她想做空姐。我也没有说什么了。毕竟人生是她自己的,该由她自己选择,不是吗?我们家人有资格、权力做的只有两点,第一:给予意见;第二:担心的要命,仅此而已!

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看到這點發現你們家真是很開明
能夠這樣想,而且這樣做的家庭的成員,應該是很優秀,也見多識廣,才能有這種胸襟。
我想在這樣家庭長大的妹妹,
應該不至於做了太過錯誤的決定。
2008-09-08 @ 18:14
迴響 from: Jasper [訪問者]
我是沒有什麼淺見啦

不過我有在 "閱讀"
偶爾也稍微思考

所以 送你 成英姝父親 的部落格中的一段話
也許會有幫助

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/chengtang/19069746
2008-09-09 @ 10:16
迴響 from: 機車妹 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 鳳梨小美人 [訪問者]
其實,你們愛的不是小妹妹,而是怕她拖累你們,如果他唸了沒有前途(你們覺得)的科系,以後找不到工作,無法養活自己,就要麻煩你們了....

其實,你們愛的是自己,是世俗的眼光,如果他以後沒有好的工作,會讓你們丟臉?

其實,你們根本不希望她獨立,不希望她有自己的想法,不希望她以自己為傲,而你們也覺得她沒有機會及能力讓你們以她為傲?
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To 鳳梨小美人

你這樣說 會不會太極端了一點
我想小護士 是真的為他妹妹想
不然不會辛苦貼文 也幫他妹妹找很多資料
也許你有不為人知的痛苦經歷 以致於你說出如此重話
你可以不同意小護士的做法
但因此就抹煞她的心意 實在沒必要

就算小護士今天這樣想 我也不覺得有何不對
甚麼年代了 還要耍鄉愿長男媳婦那一套 像李杯杯一樣嗎
她妹妹這麼大的人了 希望她能至少自立自強 不拖累他們家
本來就是應該的
以後真的他妹念甚麼 丟不丟臉只是一時的 真正倒楣的還是他妹
影響對他是很大的
你真覺得他會為了丟不丟臉這種無聊的事去花這麼大的勁
如果你也有哥哥姐姐 希望你能體貼他們的心意


2008-09-09 @ 13:02
迴響 from: 某遊戲的產品經理人 [訪問者]
小護士:
人會以自己的知識附加在"自己希望她好"的人的身上,你會,我會,朱大也會吧!?哈!
只是我們的知識有限,能力有限,又怎麼知道那樣是對還是錯的呢?

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