朱恐龍
朱恐龍

給王文華的一封信.... (26184 views)
     

顯然我信箱又收到一封大人物的來信.....

身為一個社會地位低落的小人物,能夠接到大人物來信當然讓我心跳加速,無比榮幸。

於是我就回信了。

Follow up:

文華你好:

我是朱學恒。很驚訝可以接到你的來信,相信以你這麼誠懇老實的人,一定都是親自寫信給你需要通知的對象吧!因為男子漢要嘛就直接寄廣告信,要嘛就自己打字寫信,因為我生平最討厭那種叫工讀生拿著名片,打字裝熟的廣告信了!

從寄件人的資料中,很意外的發現你的EMAIL信箱中的你的名稱是Service,也就是說你的英文名字竟然叫做Service!果然有一種為社會服務的風範呀!Service Wang服務王呀!

我也很高興的看到你的這封親筆來信是為了宣傳你和我最敬愛的張明正先生所創辦的若水國際有限公司的活動。

提到我最敬愛的張明正先生,不禁讓我回想起與趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士結緣的經過呢!

這兩位為善不欲人知,擁有無比道德感及回饋社會信念的大善人在2004年的時候,曾經短暫的給予小弟我創辦的基金會與開放式課程相當直爽的指導與關懷!讓我們學到了非常寶貴的一堂課!

至今,趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士對我們的大!恩!大!德!我從來沒有一日忘卻!

特別是陳怡蓁女士當時真誠的態度,更是讓我認為無商不奸這四個字根本不能適用在這位偉大的女性身上!特別是陳怡蓁女士後來還被挑選為趨勢科技的首席文化長,更是讓我相信,有什麼樣的文化長,就有什麼樣的企業文化,趨勢科技必然是一個超級注重誠信二字的爽朗企業!

而且顧及這兩位大善人行事低調,偽善不欲人知的立場,我也從來沒有把他們二位的義舉善行,對任何媒體公佈。因為如果我講出來了,大家一定會覺得:「哇!真沒想到這兩個人是這麼好的一對夫妻呀!

所以其實我一直替他們隱匿這樣的善行很久了唯一只有曾經在我的部落格文章中不小心透露過一點點而以!不過你放心!我並沒有明講他們兩個人的身份,所以應該還是符合他們低調的心願吧!

http://blogs.myoops.org/lucifer.php/2008/08/24/batman2

你若是有興趣的話,可以去上面這篇文章看看。

所以,當你和我最敬愛的趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生創辦若水國際股份有限公司的時候!我有個朋友說:「呿,這不過只是那些賺得腦滿腸肥的偽善企業家沽名釣譽的工具而已!他們哪懂得什麼叫做社會型企業!」

我連忙跟他辯解,因為以我對我最敬愛的趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士的瞭解,這兩個人的承諾有如千鈞般的沈重,根本不可能有背棄的可能呀!像他們這樣的讀書人最重然諾了,「仗義每多屠狗輩,負心皆是讀書人!」指的根本不是他們這種有良知、有信念的讀書人呀!什麼答應捐款三百萬,讓基金會花完之後,最後背棄承諾反悔不捐款的這種下流行為,怎麼可能發生在這兩個大善人身上!

我花費了一番功夫,也終於說服了我的朋友。因此我想把這段對話公佈在這裡,我想,以我最敬愛的趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士這麼重然諾,言出必行的行為來經營若水,必然會達到他們當初承諾三年投資一億元的承諾!所有社會公益團體當然應該抱持著相信讀書人,相信好人的天真心態來參與呀!

雖然我不懂,一個為了賺錢的投資公司三年投資一億元有什麼好承諾的,但至少若水也沒說一億元的幣值呀!搞不好是辛巴威幣也說不定!不過你們別擔心,我相信大眾不會苛責若水怎麼搞了一年,媒體曝光比成功案例要多,也不會責怪你們大張旗鼓卻一事無成這件事,因為大家都知道做好事是需要耐心的嘛!那跟沽名釣譽是不一樣的呀!只要看能作多久,能夠持續多久,就知道是不是真正想要作公益呀!

總之,這次由你親筆寫來的來信實在相當可惜,如果不是因為我在52.5小時之前才收到這個活動的通知,不然我真的很樂意、很榮幸到場跟所有的公益團體分享過去幾年以來,我最敬愛的趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士對我們的大恩大德和照顧,讓大家可以從一個過來人的角度,知道自己是多麼幸運,可以遇到這些對社會充滿了回饋心的病毒企業家!

總之,請務必替我轉達我對我最敬愛的趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士的感謝,他們的大!恩!大!德!我今生沒齒難忘!

祝若水一切順利!

祝趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士身體健康,萬壽無疆!

謝謝你!

學恒

http://www.flickr.com/photos/swanky-hsiao/

史旺基最近跑去聽歌去了.....

附上一個Google首頁回溯影片....

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=1vgprty39og

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迴響 from: 冷眼 [訪問者]
我第一
2008-10-03 @ 13:47
迴響 from: LeoLiao [訪問者]
好慘
2008-10-03 @ 13:49
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
頭香/?
2008-10-03 @ 13:51
迴響 from: 買不到漫畫 [訪問者]
這。好奇妙的工益團體。。。
2008-10-03 @ 13:51
迴響 from: LeoLiao [訪問者]
"從寄件人的資料中,很意外的發現你的EMAIL信箱中的你的名稱是Service,也就是說英文名字竟然叫做Service!果然有一種為社會服務的風範呀!"

真是機車.........不過這是怎麼寄的?因為明明開頭有打學恆...
現在軟體這麼強喔!
2008-10-03 @ 13:52
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
幹我又輸了
我是用豪宅傳封包的...
2008-10-03 @ 13:52
迴響 from: Arthos [訪問者]
哇!!
前十耶!!
2008-10-03 @ 13:52
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
因為,那號稱不計代價投入社會型企業的電腦病毒企業家夫妻,曾經一樣豪氣干雲的承諾,最後卻反悔拒絕捐助對他們來說九牛一毛的一筆款項,讓後來登上紐約時報和華爾街日報的開放式課程險些就此土崩瓦解。這種黑暗的真相,你不需要瞭解。
2008-10-03 @ 13:53
迴響 from: 異形,18歲+879天 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
我嗅到一股詭異的氣氛了......
2008-10-03 @ 13:54
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
閱畢...

這篇算得罪人78文嗎?
2008-10-03 @ 13:55
迴響 from: 朧月夜 [訪問者]
Oh Oh OH…
是真的嗎?
小女子…第一次欸
2008-10-03 @ 13:55
迴響 from: 買不到漫畫 [訪問者]
什麼叫做「共益+生意」啦
文華還是認真點,為眾生的話早點轉型;
當「活佛」好了!!!!!
2008-10-03 @ 13:56
迴響 from: 朧月夜 [訪問者]
Orz…才晚個幾秒按…
前十就飛了 >_
2008-10-03 @ 13:56
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
真是的


搶第幾名回覆真的有比仔細看完文章內容還重要嗎?
2008-10-03 @ 13:56
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
迴響來自: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
閱畢...

這篇算得罪人78文嗎?

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學恒他一向秉持著"人不犯我,我不犯人"的原則

所以,很明顯的,這不算得罪人的78文
當然,前面其它的也不算
2008-10-03 @ 13:58
迴響 from: 新鮮人 [訪問者]
朱大 果真是有宅男的風範骨氣哩
佩服 佩服!!
2008-10-03 @ 13:58
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者]
差17分鐘就第17位香是怎樣?要頭香這麼難嗎
2008-10-03 @ 14:00
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
迴響來自: LeoLiao [訪問者]
"從寄件人的資料中,很意外的發現你的EMAIL信箱中的你的名稱是Service,也就是說英文名字竟然叫做Service!果然有一種為社會服務的風範呀!"

真是機車.........不過這是怎麼寄的?因為明明開頭有打學恆...
現在軟體這麼強喔!

============== 讓我教教你什麼叫做高科技分隔線 =========

那個軟體叫做 " 時新低廉神手打字工讀生 "
用的運算迴路是 " 同一天同一場聚會拿到的名片都用同一個格式 " 的運算程式
然後共用王文華專屬的 SERVER 信箱
所以才出來這封 " 官樣 G8 文 "
當然也有可能是用木葉忍者村的忍法 " 影分身之術 " 搭配一百台無人用的電腦然後打出來的, 不過火影有交代不可以把這個忍術傳給官腔派使用, 所以他會這招的機率應該是 0.00000000
2008-10-03 @ 14:01
迴響 from: 卡倫斯 [訪問者]
一!字!一!句!
都刺到骨裡
刺到心裡
寫完之後有消氣了一些嗎?

很妙
這麼樣的一個創頭公司居然會想邀請你
顯然喔~
您這宅宅頭
在社經地位已經佔了一片天啦~

我們當然不及你演辯社的好口才
只是希望你開心過
別被無謂的人氣氣啦!
2008-10-03 @ 14:03
迴響 from: 5 [訪問者]
要不是公司花錢請他來~
我也不想聽王文華話虎爛~
說他國外唸書怎樣怎樣屌?
又說他當MTV台主管怎樣屌~
老實說~我真的聽到睡著了~
2008-10-03 @ 14:03
迴響 from: oskar-我分到的角色是波布蘭...囧 [訪問者]
他奶奶的
我服了你
實在太man了
這個世界需要你這樣有風骨的人
因為我沒有~~所以我佩服你~~
!!!!
不枉我不管到哪裡都在推你的blog!!!
讚到說不出話來了(因為我金憨慢共畫)
2008-10-03 @ 14:04
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
雖然基金會已經暫時消失
但是讓我來替基金會發個遲來的怒吼 :

人而無信就是畜生 !!!!!!!!!
e04 e04 e04 三百萬拿來 !!!
2008-10-03 @ 14:05
迴響 from: 期待ervice王的回信 [訪問者]

朱大

如果有Service王的回信, 千萬不可以藏私ㄛ

請一定要跟大家分享

好期待喔.....
2008-10-03 @ 14:08
迴響 from: 鼎:一切有為法如夢幻泡影如露亦如電應作如是觀 [訪問者]
人家開門見山就說的很清楚

--------趨勢-------------

對於未來趨勢看來不怎樣(搏不到什麼名聲的開放式課程)的公益贊助

人家當然及早抽腿不顧

王文華近年來對樂活相當投入

開玩笑Service Wang當然容易找到金主

我們阿宅只要相信阿宅一定會找到出路

用78文的信件來對服務王作回覆

只不過是剛剛好的小小甜蜜的報復






2008-10-03 @ 14:12
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
to 陳健拉

以下僅供您下次選擇封包傳送媒介的參考

在敦化南路忠孝東路口有著這樣的標語:
買豪宅不如持有豪宅

有圖有真相....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2908458773_182d07b087_o.jpg
2008-10-03 @ 14:14
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
打錯...

買豪宅不如持有豪店
2008-10-03 @ 14:15
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
王文華自從與陶子合作不合,一怒拂袖而去造成該節目收視率節節攀升之後,我就很注意這位以「蛋白質女孩」風靡萬千少女的史丹佛畢業生。

日久生情,我對他景仰好高,兩層樓這麼高。

尤其是那「史丹佛」的大招牌,畢了業後萬用無窮,雖然用的方法跟別人不太一樣。

比如幾乎每本書都提史丹佛,每個節目都有史丹佛,連跟趙少康合出產品也史丹佛,好像史丹佛校園生活有如寶山,一生訴說不盡似的。

這麼年輕就以回憶錄吃一輩子,我好羨慕~~~~
2008-10-03 @ 14:15
迴響 from: 林亞比 [訪問者]
XX的才23名~ >_
2008-10-03 @ 14:15
迴響 from: 小蔡 [訪問者]
看來豪宅神已經受到肯定,
所以這幾位偉大的人物要與您一起共創時代,
豪宅神應該要感到欣慰。
2008-10-03 @ 14:16
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
忘了說,連朱大的MAIL都有史丹佛,真的好屌~~~~
2008-10-03 @ 14:17
迴響 from: Juan [訪問者] · http://j.cards.twirc.org
這個社會只要會寫東西
至於用第一人稱寫出來的文章
是不是他的故事
還是聽來之後用自己的話講一次

一樣可以感動人咩
一樣可以是暢銷書作者阿

難怪我的 blog 寫的好慢
都沒人說故事給我聽


2008-10-03 @ 14:17
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
人家走的是"陰道"78道自然和"宅道"不合。

"老子當年沒隆重回報78你們算是佛心來的,沒想到還這麼犯賤他媽的自找晦氣啊!?"

*弱水按:誰沒走過陰道,或即將去走?(大噓
2008-10-03 @ 14:19
迴響 from: 傻蛋 [訪問者]
真好的一封回信
當年我收到介紹若水的網址後花了一天看完
結論也是跟這篇相差不遠呀
2008-10-03 @ 14:20
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
***
to 異形


"人不餵我,我不餵人"
"人人餵我,我餵人人"

我從頭到尾都沒有提到屎這個字喔
2008-10-03 @ 14:21
迴響 from: 鋼鐵宅 [訪問者]
T牌的防毒產品很爛!!!by 企業管理者
2008-10-03 @ 14:22
迴響 from: OCEAN [訪問者]

朱大生氣了..喝個綠豆湯吧...
2008-10-03 @ 14:24
迴響 from: Venaisha../正咩...??? [訪問者]

整篇感覺好刺....

2008-10-03 @ 14:25
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
好了啦 ~
其實王文華也不是故意的
他只是個懶惰又沒誠意然後想找人拉人氣又不自己動手的傢伙而已

懶惰沒誠意在中華民國是不犯法的
大家就息怒吧 ~ 我們要以德報怨阿

來人阿 ~ 請王公子到前院去













眾家丁 ~ 餵王公子吃屎 !!!!!!
2008-10-03 @ 14:26
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
王公子如果覺得還有點餓怎辦?
2008-10-03 @ 14:32
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
那就吃十碗吧

如果怕太乾噎到, 那請他吃洨好了
2008-10-03 @ 14:39
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
我送出上篇後才想到這邊還是有廣大的女性讀者群
我為我上面那篇刪除線中出現的不雅字道歉

我以後會注意一下不要讓自己粗鄙的個性太直接表現出來的 ...(猛虎伏地勢道歉中 )
2008-10-03 @ 14:42
迴響 from: LeoLiao [訪問者]
迴響來自: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
因為,那號稱不計代價投入社會型企業的電腦病毒企業家夫妻,曾經一樣豪氣干雲的承諾,最後卻反悔拒絕捐助對他們來說九牛一毛的一筆款項,讓後來登上紐約時報和華爾街日報的開放式課程險些就此土崩瓦解。這種黑暗的真相,你不需要瞭解。
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嗯.......不知道最佳文章的選拔結果何時公佈.....
2008-10-03 @ 14:43
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
迴響來自: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/

買豪宅不如持有豪店

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有豪店的話事務所就可以有實體店面了
一樓精華地段是女僕咖啡廳、蘿莉健康飲食、轉轉蛋檯、公仔與模型專賣店!
可以弄個虛實整合外加POS系統網店合一,讓豪宅輕鬆開店!!
演講中的休息時間還可以一邊喝水一邊處理訂單,精轉掌握每一段微小時間!!!
二樓是七八人物事件陳列館,裡面有事務所裡提過的七八人物真人尺寸蠟像及生平梗概
在裡面除了極強的冷氣以外,還會看到阿宅們在看蠟像時不時發出的科科笑聲
三樓四樓五樓及以上尚未規劃,正等待發包中...
2008-10-03 @ 14:45
迴響 from: 十三叔 [訪問者]
請找尚書大人...


這唱歌的是誰阿?
還不賴咧
2008-10-03 @ 14:48
朱大真是犀利..這不是一般人辦得到的回文呀.

我想王文華先生收到後應該不會有一絲氣憤.只能感嘆人材無法用簡單手法輕易到手...
2008-10-03 @ 14:49
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
to 陳健拉

請問蠟像有額外作保護嗎?

防口水防番茄防雞蛋之類的?
2008-10-03 @ 14:51
迴響 from: MT [訪問者]
天啊

從google瀏覽器剛看到有更新,馬上就連前20也擠不上。
2008-10-03 @ 14:55
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
to Baabuu,

蠟像不做特殊保護
只是材質用高奈米分子自動清洗除塵超耐磨材質

每天晚上十二點會自動清洗蠟像

蠟像不能讓我們吐口水丟雞蛋那還有啥好看的 ??
2008-10-03 @ 14:57
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
迴響來自: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
to 陳健拉

請問蠟像有額外作保護嗎?

防口水防番茄防雞蛋之類的?

---------------------------------------------------------------------
baabuu大大您好

很遺憾,目前沒有任何一家保險公司願意承接此項保險
理由是連保障公司的業務來場地檢查被保險物時
看到這些蠟像也想吐口水砸番茄丟雞蛋外加虛虛
不知道您有沒有認識有意承保的單位?
2008-10-03 @ 14:58
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
***
如果是這樣,那不如直接砍掉重鍊會比較有效....
2008-10-03 @ 15:00
迴響 from: OCEAN [訪問者]
ROCK [訪問者]
恕刪
但是總覺得SERVICE WANG有點無辜被掃到颱風尾的感覺,科科
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嗯..偶也素這摸傑得...
2008-10-03 @ 15:13
迴響 from: OCEAN [訪問者]

正咩...好久不見...感冒好了嗎?
2008-10-03 @ 15:17
迴響 from: Ca413 [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/cat413
原來公司用的 T牌,還有這麼一段故事啊!!!
2008-10-03 @ 15:19
迴響 from: Simparn [訪問者] · http://simparn.blogspot.com
豪宅!昨天終於再度與您見面了啦~~~(上次是在BOF的PunchParty6)
整場活動雖然部分的影片都有看過了,但是一口氣在短短的二小時內看完,
那個衝擊力比起紅音的愛如潮吹,給我的震撼還要一鳴精人啊啊啊!差一點就讓

我也要濕了....(阿宅們別想歪...是眼框濕了?_?)

昨天座談會總算在美和那幾位師長嘴中=口=,承蒙您的欽點搶到最後發問的機會啊!可惜我這個死阿宅平時愛玩網路居然講起話來不清不楚亂發抖啊啊啊~

昨天想要問您的問題再此複述一次!
Simparn:朱學恆,豪宅先生您好!曾在您的部落格-阿宅萬事通事務所,當中聽聞您到各校演講需支出十萬以上費用,自備專業團隊提供燈光、投影布幕、音響等等,這對於個人或團體都是相當可怕的開銷!或許您這種行為在一般社會的價值觀認為是傻人做蠢事的行為,但經過整場活動演講聽完後,我認為你就如同影片那位跳舞的先生一直不斷做著自己堅持或許在別人眼中是很愚蠢的事情,但這就是男子漢的表現呀!即使沒人支持與理解,但還是堅持自己的信念向前。在我看來,你就像是一位傳道者那樣,透過大大小小的演講、不間斷的Bloging,目的就是要把知識給分享出去。(←這位阿宅的引言、感覺廢話好多喔~冏rz)如同上述所提,我想請教您現實面的問題,OOPS開放式課程、奇幻文學基金會、聘請的助理及團隊,這些所產生的花費該如何平衡來維持其運作呢?(←要問的重點也才這幾句而已~冏,前面拉拉扯扯說一堆廢話,真是個死阿宅!踢飛~~~

)

宅神:當然是還沒損益平衡呀,也是靠著社會、企業捐獻贊助。若你有一天成功有能力了,記得要捐獻贊助呀!在台灣是很不容易餓死的呀,你可以去7-11打工,領取一百元的時薪還是餓不死你的啊!還是要靠大家的多多捐獻贊助阿!(小阿宅os:科科科,太好了,用這個問題來當作ending是再好不過的梗了!或許幫助不大,順勢而為來宣傳募捐也是很好,美和的那些長官們多捐一點阿阿阿,可要像跟宅神合照一樣踴躍唷~揪咪)

2008-10-03 @ 15:20
迴響 from: OCEAN [訪問者]
咦..ninny也不見了??
2008-10-03 @ 15:20
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 我想穿OOPS跟宅鬥士的T-Shirt [訪問者]
若水,經這麼一提,才又想起來。
他們打著”公益”的外衣,其實,賺錢才是本質吧!

記得這一兩期的某本雜誌有寫到(如果沒記錯的話),他們辦了個活動,好像是讓大家提案來競標之類的(形容不好,請見諒),結果,沒有人勝出。
詳細內容沒有細看,回家去找找,再來看看說了什麼。
依稀記得,看到那有名的三個字,我就自動跳過該篇了。
2008-10-03 @ 15:22
迴響 from: reading Dino [訪問者]
根據在下這一陣子的努力閱讀

朱學恒只想收到蔣友柏的邀請函

王文華你踩到地雷了!:P

2008-10-03 @ 15:22
迴響 from: 流浪小米 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/max9797
嗯~

有空去聽聽服務王在匪碟電台的節目...

什麼"天天x你21小時"(會不會破皮啊XD)

不過我想應該沒幾個能聽完吧~

我實在搞不懂這樣的節目怎麼可以做這麼久?



[論卦]有沒有服務王的節目很冷但又做很久的八卦?

2008-10-03 @ 15:24
迴響 from: noblegrass [訪問者]
我到蝙蝠俠文章搜尋"三百萬"搜尋不到...
2008-10-03 @ 15:24
迴響 from: Simparn [訪問者] · http://simparn.blogspot.com
留到後面座談會,果然超級值得啊!哈~果然還錶了李杯杯『阿銅伯』!超期待的,爽度破萬LOL。

另外...今天我有跑去合作社仔細地探查一番,沒發現"大布丁"耶!架上只有小的鮮奶布丁,看來~~我該去食品系研究一下了ˋˊ(握拳)

張明正先生,前年還有來我們屏科科的校慶耶...原來這麼受人景仰與推崇阿,我真是看錯他了XD。(匹吸吸令真難用...冏rz…還好我們學校的電腦沒買來灌,目前是小紅傘使用中~科科科)
2008-10-03 @ 15:27
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
迴響來自: noblegrass [訪問者]
我到蝙蝠俠文章搜尋"三百萬"搜尋不到..

=========== 我幫你找的分隔線 ===============
三百萬抵加啦 !!!

我連忙跟他辯解,因為以我對我最敬愛的趨勢科技創辦人張明正先生與陳怡蓁女士的瞭解,這兩個人的承諾有如千鈞般的沈重,根本不可能有背棄的可能呀!像他們這樣的讀書人最重然諾了,「仗義每多屠狗輩,負心皆是讀書人!」指的根本不是他們這種有良知、有信念的讀書人呀!什麼答應捐款 " 三百萬 " ,讓基金會花完之後,最後背棄承諾反悔不捐款的這種下流行為,怎麼可能發生在這兩個大善人身上!

2008-10-03 @ 15:27
迴響 from: 點名.. [訪問者]

咦?...盧卡斯斬夭除魔也很久不見了..
2008-10-03 @ 15:28
迴響 from: 潛水夫 - 我想穿OOPS跟宅鬥士的T-Shirt [訪問者]
不會兩人生病都有志一同吧?!
2008-10-03 @ 15:38
迴響 from: fireman [訪問者]
如果王文華不是跟那二位合開公司,
朱大應該不會寫這一篇.

T牌公司的文化,就跟老闆為人一樣...
2008-10-03 @ 15:40
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
參考資料

http://www.saa-taiwan.net/events-1-2.php?index=20080905052936

"行銷創意暢銷作家王文華, 麻省理工學院開放式課程中譯計劃主持人, 奇幻文化藝術基金會創辦人兼執行長朱學恆等聯袂出席"
2008-10-03 @ 15:40
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
公益+生意?
還是公益=生意?
或是公益
2008-10-03 @ 15:50
迴響 from: vxa [訪問者] · http://vxarx.blogspot.com/
文字被吃掉了~補齊!
或是公益<生意?
不知道為什麼我只想到慈濟....
2008-10-03 @ 15:51
迴響 from: Merage [訪問者]
蝙蝠俠文章中我也找不到跟這篇的關連啊..
2008-10-03 @ 15:53
迴響 from: 貼地超人 [訪問者]
迴響來自: ROCK [訪問者]
但是總覺得SERVICE WANG有點無辜被掃到颱風尾的感覺,科科
2008-10-03 @ 14:46
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你如果聽過 Service Wang 介紹新科技的話,就不會這麼認為了
明明我們隨便個宅們懂得都比他多,就是沒人請我們去開講啊~

這就是屎蛋佛畢業的悲哀
2008-10-03 @ 15:53
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
迴響來自: Merage [訪問者]
蝙蝠俠文章中我也找不到跟這篇的關連啊..

========= 你眼睛很大是吧 ??? ==============
搜尋一下我的名字 ~ 可以看到我把蝙蝠俠的文都貼過來了

2008-10-03 @ 16:03
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
沒想到除了很爛的防毒軟件烙賽以外,王先生意外成為大家的怨念....這事兒果然很晦氣=.="
應該寄一些有賣豬腳麵線的食堂指南供王先生參考。或是寄食譜叫工讀生煮?

吃一吃希望鼻要讓名校招牌蒙塵或沾到屎之類。
2008-10-03 @ 16:05
迴響 from: linfavourite [訪問者] · http://linfavourite.blogspot.com/
好讽刺,好讽刺,好讽刺说……
2008-10-03 @ 16:10
迴響 from: 迷思羊 [訪問者]
話說~
朱大的刷卡機制申請
揪竟通過了沒呢?
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To.baabuu
我敢講不是因為有後台
而是
男子漢就是要正直敢言
因為颱風沒出席懊惱至今
2008-10-03 @ 16:17
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
迴響來自: 迷思羊 [訪問者]

To.baabuu
我敢講不是因為有後台
而是
男子漢就是要正直敢言

================= ??? ====================
1 : 迷思羊是男扮女裝 ??
2 : 迷思羊是花木蘭 ??
2008-10-03 @ 16:35
迴響 from: zop [訪問者]
趨勢科技還活著?
2008-10-03 @ 16:43
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
***
複習一下...

迴響來自: 迷思羊 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
這麼捧場的各位.....該如何回報呢?(摸下巴)

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摸下巴這個動作執行起來不會太勉強嗎?
2008-10-02 @ 11:27
2008-10-03 @ 16:48
迴響 from: 陸仁賈 [訪問者]
我可不可以把年度最佳文章改成這篇? 不過我怕朱大叫我去吃大便....
2008-10-03 @ 16:51
迴響 from: 點名.. [訪問者]
潛水夫 - 我想穿OOPS跟宅鬥士的T-Shirt [訪問者]
不會兩人生病都有志一同吧?!
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嗯...得保重才是..
2008-10-03 @ 16:52
迴響 from: swanky [訪問者] · http://swanbear.blogspot.com/
「讓社會善意的能量能夠發揮到最大」
「公益+生意」
果真很像是作家所使用的詞彙呀...

另外王文華那張小照片很有外拍的fu耶~
(笑得有點傻就是 :P)

唱歌的是mondialito
http://swanbear.blogspot.com/2008/09/mondialito.html
很好聽大家可以去聽聽看~
主唱很美很可愛!
2008-10-03 @ 16:55
迴響 from: 黯腦 [訪問者] · http://forum.gamer.com.tw
若水藥水
那位王生
果然腦袋入水
不知朱大是著名的殺文狂
嗚呼
2008-10-03 @ 16:57
迴響 from: 只是路人 [訪問者]
蝙蝠俠那篇, 青菜在這裡啦!!


因為,那號稱不計代價投入社會型企業的電腦病毒企業家夫妻,曾經一樣豪氣干雲的承諾,最後卻反悔拒絕捐助對他們來說九牛一毛的一筆款項,讓後來登上紐約時報和華爾街日報的開放式課程險些就此土崩瓦解。這種黑暗的真相,你不需要瞭解。
2008-10-03 @ 16:59
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
>>趨勢科技還活著?

問這句話的人通常也會問"黃色鬼屋還開著?"
這些都是典型的都市怪談和業內密話。

3C業某些層面是很奇怪的...牽涉到洗大便和運大便、偷大便、騙大便、借大便...等等
2008-10-03 @ 16:59
迴響 from: 流浪小米 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/max9797
說到那張服務王的捷運外拍

讓我想起"捷運帥男孩-鋁加腥"

質感和腥伯拍的不分軒轅~
2008-10-03 @ 17:04
迴響 from: 我愛張台大 [訪問者]
話說~
朱大的刷卡機制申請
揪竟通過了沒呢?
=================
我同事說朱大基金會要辦的是網路刷卡,
但有欠缺申請文件故遲無法送件,
不知是缺那一項?
會很麻煩嗎?
現在申請刷卡審核滿嚴格的,
如果缺件可能還是不能辦.
要不要改傳真刷卡?
可能需要的文件比較單純些.
(但好像比較遜厚)
2008-10-03 @ 17:08
迴響 from: 天天都路過 [訪問者]
看半天原來要反著看,朱大我挺你啊.....我最討厭這種的了.骨子裏不知藏著多少東西的人
2008-10-03 @ 17:23
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
之前第一次聚會不是有迷思羊的照片嗎?
2008-10-03 @ 17:36
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
如果我寫信去服務王的網站信箱幹譙他
不知道是不是也是工讀生回信ㄟ ^^
2008-10-03 @ 17:36
迴響 from: 簡尼夫。德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
這是一篇功能性文章嗎= =???



齋戒的Beotos…
Blades of Chaos!!!
我為了什麼活到現在…
2008-10-03 @ 17:57
迴響 from: huhu [訪問者]
朱大 加油 如果你瘦下來 我考慮捐款 哈哈
2008-10-03 @ 18:25
迴響 from: 阿鏗 [訪問者] · http://davidtsai.blogspot.com/
信寫的很清楚
他們要投資的社會企業是"有營收能獲利"的公司
但所提供的商品服務或是雇用的員工能創造社會公益
所以1.首要"有營收能獲利"的公司(這應該是核心價值)
2.所提供的商品服務或是雇用的員工能創造社會公益(這還是"或"就可以囉)

我今天才知道社會企業是要如此定義
跟我原先想的不太一樣哩

讚!
這篇文有78
若服務王先生有回信..請朱大你要讓大家知道
我想看看所謂文筆好的人如何回應



2008-10-03 @ 18:31
迴響 from: 追憶似水年華 [訪問者]
朱大真是個很機車有禮貌的人

你與王文華同樣都是我景仰的人 哀 我真不知道要挺誰耶
2008-10-03 @ 18:38
迴響 from: Morris Chang [訪問者] · http://changjiinglang.blogspot.com/
回應太弱了吧 ...

最近幾天寫報告好累,不知不覺就睡著了,我夢見有家公司的執行長,不會寫程式居然可以開販毒公司,若干年後居然還還能到其他國家上市,這個執行長的姐妹,恰好嫁了科技人,若干年後這位科技人的蜘蛛網公司也在蜘蛛網熱潮中狠狠在市場上刮了一大筆錢,這筆錢多到他拿去砸國內的籃球隊 ...

為什麼不會寫程式也可以開販毒公司呢? 這問題超過我個人的智慧 ...我再怎麼樣也想不出答案

...就醒了
2008-10-03 @ 18:40
迴響 from: =..= [訪問者]
在台灣是很不容易餓死的呀,你可以去7-11打工,領取一百元的時薪還是餓不死你的啊!
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突然想到有個新聞
有個19歲的孩子去全家打工,實薪只有47,無勞健保,颱風天去上班被吹落的有線電視電纜勒頸喪命...

不知該說啥才好....
2008-10-03 @ 20:43
迴響 from: palm [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ruaypapa
貼一篇阿宅教書文..消消氣唄.....




奢侈的貴氣小學生~好笑文章

從小,在家境那一欄,我爸媽都叫我填「小康」;我也天真的以為,自己家裡家境還算過的去。長大到英國唸書以後,才發現,這個世界的有錢人真多。更可怕的是,到|了私立小學教書以後,我才見識到,不只有錢人和我們想的不一樣,連有錢人的小孩,也和我們印象中的小孩,完全不一樣!

舉例來說,我記得小學的時候,要是有同學生日,帶著一桶乖乖桶,全班就會羨慕的要命了!乖乖桶裡,稀有的五頂紙帽子和玩具,更是壽星的好朋友,才能拿到的最高榮譽!我國小六年間,從來沒有帶過乖乖桶去上學;所以到大學的時候,還曾經送過好朋友(男生)芭比桶當做生日禮,讓他滿懷羞愧地提著芭比桶搭公車回家。←旁邊的少女都露出嫌惡的眼神~科科科

等我當老師的時候,我就一直期待,能有機會再吃乖乖桶。當然,如果能拿到紙帽子和玩具,也很有成就感啦!!有一天,有一位家長在聯絡簿裡提到,他的小孩生日當天,會請人送蛋糕來班上,請老師(也就是我)幫忙分給小朋友一起同樂。

我的心裡讚嘆著,「蛋糕耶!比乖乖桶還要高級耶!不愧是私立小學的有錢人!」

當天,我一直期待著蛋糕的到來。終於,到了下午三點左右,壽星小朋友家的菲佣,提著一個大蛋糕來到學校。小朋友都興奮地擠在蛋糕的周圍,想親眼目賭蛋糕現身的那一剎那。

我一邊解開蛋糕盒上的繩子,一邊一直炒熱氣氛說,「要開囉~我要打開囉~要開囉~」←其實全班我最興奮!

小朋友也一直發出期待的吶喊,「老師快點啦! 你那麼慢,冰淇淋會溶化ㄋㄟ!!!!」←誰跟你說是冰淇淋蛋糕的啊…

終於,我像小當家一樣得意地掀開蛋糕的盒子,自以為背後會有一條發光的金龍直衝雲宵的時候…

小朋友都安靜了下來,甚至,有一個小朋友不屑地說,「Costco的喔…便宜貨…」

當天,小壽星一點都不開心,因為同學都一直笑他的蛋糕是便宜貨。一直試圖矯正小朋友觀念的老師我本人,心裡也很不開心;因為,上個星期,老師才花了一千二辦了便宜貨蛋糕的會員卡…←心裡的哀傷又不能和他們分享...

當然,能讓小孩唸私立小學的家庭,家境普遍都相當不錯。除了之前在保時捷把拔那篇提到的家長外,其他家長,也幾乎都是開那種看起來就很貴的車。

有一天,平常都搭校車的Francis,因為睡過頭沒搭到校車,由他把拔親自開車送來學校。在學校前的圓環慢速地繞場一周後,把拔帥氣地開著車揚長而去。←我強烈懷疑,做那個圓環,根本就是要讓家長炫耀車子用的!

Francis才剛踏進教室,其他小朋友就一直問,「Francis,那個是你把拔的車嗎?」

Francis驕傲地點了頭,我也馬上附合著說,「你把拔好好喔,都可以開車帶你上學! 我都要自己開車上學耶!」←朋友都覺得,我和學生講話的方式超白癡…

Francis無奈地說,「因為你是大人好嗎!!!!」

另外一個小朋友卻馬上把話題拉回來,「Francis,你把拔的BMW看起來很舊了耶..該換新車了吧!」
靠…靠妖!!我馬上發火的說,「你這樣很沒禮貌耶!人家把拔開什麼車,關你屁事啊!」

沒想到,從小就過著有錢人的鬥爭生活的Francis也不是簡單角色!

Francis:「我勸你最好不要再欺負我!不然我就叫我把拔,開除你把拔!」

這…這是什麼世界!

暑假前的一個星期,下課時間,我和小朋友在走廊聊天。←這個情況,就是中年男子在樓梯間抽煙差不多~

我隨口問了小朋友,「好煩喔~我暑假還要來學校上班耶!! 你們暑假要幹麻?」

Enoch:「暑假好無聊喔~ 我馬麻每次放假都要去日本,超膩的!」

保時捷把拔的女兒:「對啊~ 我馬麻都要我去澳洲的姑姑家學英文…」

Francis:「我還要陪我馬麻去美國念博士勒! 超無聊的…」

靠!!!你們這些奢侈的小孩,怎麼好意思在,暑假還得天天來學校上班的老師面前,說這種話啊!!!!

當然,這種內心的怒吼,不能透露出來。我只能拼命的假笑,然後硬是擠出一句話,「你們的暑假…好像比我的暑假好玩耶…」

沒想到,Enoch竟然還給我放了一記冷箭!他說,「老師,你薪水多少啊? 我馬麻說,當老師的薪水很少捏,你好可憐喔~」

各位觀眾,拎杯,當時已經快要哭出來了!!!堂堂從英國念完碩士,回台灣教小學的大人,竟然被一個小學一年級的正太說可憐…..我還有活下去的臉嗎!!!?

Francis還給我補上一記,「等我長大,你再來我把拔的公司上班好了。」

Francis…等不到你長大,老師已經失業了…你可以先預支你的零用錢,當我的薪水嗎!!!?
2008-10-03 @ 21:01
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]
「因為我生平最討厭那種叫工讀生拿著名片,打字裝熟的廣告信了!」

朱大這麼說就不對了,我相信以王文華學長的娘砲誠懇(娘砲不是我說的,以前轉LINK時男子漢朱大看完的評語),和蛆嗜科技多年來累積的技術力,他們一定不會做出雇一群工讀生打字這種事。鐵定是用信件產生器加上SPAM機全自動發信轟炸……


另外,趨勢科技還活著,只是聽說最近從那斯達克下市(還是只是從指數中被踢掉?消息來源不懂股票亂用術語)而已。

王學長親自傳授的宴會秘笈中就特別提出,這種場合唯一的目的就只是收集名片,回去再從長計議……但是從長計議的部份只限名片主人是正妹的情況,名片主人是強獸人當然要丟給機器對付……


另外,唯恐天下不亂的本人要去這裡「http://www.readingtimes.com.tw/discuss/tomwang/main.asp」留LINK讓大家溝通溝通……看能不能引些正妹來圍剿強獸人……

男子漢收到再次回信一定要再發一篇文給大家看啊!
2008-10-03 @ 21:03
迴響 from: 秋名山之恥 [訪問者]
感覺朱豪宅被陰得很慘...句句怨念啊!
2008-10-03 @ 21:04
迴響 from: ckkc [訪問者]
朱大又多得罪一個人了...
2008-10-03 @ 21:20
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
各位真是過度衍生了,你看我好好一封讚揚企業家的感恩信件被各位解讀成這樣,真是無比的無奈呀!

Lucifer
2008-10-03 @ 22:36
迴響 from: UV [訪問者]

微小的誠意
可以看出很多事情啊

(茶)


2008-10-03 @ 22:42
迴響 from: JJ [訪問者]

朱宅真是好樣的
果然是不迴避的正面迎接
好想給你鼓掌
2008-10-03 @ 23:10
迴響 from: 賣宅的朱厚宅 [訪問者]
朱老大雖然說無奈,可我為什麼看到他嘴角上揚呢?

另外,711的薪水比較有保障,而且有3節及年終...
2008-10-03 @ 23:14
迴響 from: 阿克 [訪問者]
在此我要貢獻一些密辛。

話說有一年趨勢科技的年終尾牙聚餐大會上,陳女士的媽媽,被陳女士邀請上台致詞。
(不要問我為什麼不是張先生的媽媽,我花了很久才確定張先生不是被招贅的。)
陳媽媽以慢條斯理的口吻,說了這樣一段話給台下全公司的人聽:
「感謝各位的努力,讓我們陳家才有今天的財力!......」
當時我也在台下,所有人聽了莫不感動的痛哭流涕,恨不得馬上回去加班,再為陳家的財力增添一筆,
至於貧弱的薪水,大家都不是這種勢利的人,怎麼可能會介意呢。

再說到,陳女士這個 CCO (Chief Culture Officer) 的職位真的是獨步全球,全世界就這家公司有這種職位。
聽說每年的目標是要想出10個讓員工背誦的slogan,才能支領不知道是幾百萬還是上千萬的高薪,相當有挑戰性。

趨勢還有一個基金會,為這社會作了很多好事,例如協辦藝文活動然後賺一點收入。
至於避稅這個附加作用,我相信張陳兩人是不會太在意的。



不要問我怎麼知道這些的。
2008-10-03 @ 23:55
迴響 from: 小熊熊 [訪問者]
趨勢要是產品很強老闆會陰人也就算了
偏偏pc-cillin連一般的鳥毒都抓不到
抓到了也清不掉
去看看國際獨立實驗室做的報告就知道這個國內的第一品牌在全球排名是怎樣了
人家是可以抓到未知病毒掃描時間短整體佔用資源小
而他呢?
靠的是公關和行銷
那天台灣品牌電腦不再搭配趨勢和諾頓的產品
就代表台灣資訊產品消費者的權益又進一步了
所以叫"學恆""學恆"的很親切
但公關作了就好啦
哪個讀報紙的還會去查"親愛的學恆"到底有沒有收到被承諾的補助?

王文華是個陰柔擅用媒體的人
會寫文章
可以主持節目
他大概想學美國礦泉水做公益行銷
但誰又知道到底這些打著公益捐款的"營利企業"要到底提供多少資源做公益?
2008-10-04 @ 00:11
迴響 from: Planet --最愛科科笑的科幻女子-- [訪問者]
這學期剛好上的課正是 創投 ----"創業投資"

我只能說不懂的人真的會誤解
但不懂創投去搞創投
真的會當冤大頭
但大家怎們把它們當小人看啊
又不是小孩子

真好奇他們是幹啥的
台灣的創投都是半導體 通訊 光電居多 (跑去翻資料=ˇ=+)
我不認為依台灣的環境能賺多少錢
但不至於虧啦
(自言自語...)
2008-10-04 @ 00:35
迴響 from: swanky [訪問者] · http://swanbear.blogspot.com/
逛到王先生留言版上有個有趣的留言~
http://www.readingtimes.com.tw/discuss/tomwang/main2.asp?ParentID=1016876&ArticleID=1016876&ReplyLayer=1
2008-10-04 @ 00:50
Simparn兄問的問題
似乎每一個演講的場合都有人問起......

另,我好想知道這件事情有沒有後續
朱大勇氣真的十足,我只能寫個服字
2008-10-04 @ 01:04
迴響 from: 布卡 [訪問者]
工商服務~
來溫習吧!
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9C%B1%E5%AD%B8%E6%81%86

那張照片是怎麼回事?
簡介:近期獲得宅神之稱號。喜好在部落格上放正咩圖.

還有語錄ㄟ
http://zh.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=%E6%9C%B1%E5%AD%B8%E6%81%86&variant=zh-tw
怎麼沒有最經典的男子漢那兩句哩?
2008-10-04 @ 01:09
迴響 from: 路過的阿宅 [訪問者]
好濃的幹液

還好我沒用趨勢
2008-10-04 @ 01:15
迴響 from: bird [訪問者]
好深好濃的幹液.......想必是朱大憋了很久的元氣彈
2008-10-04 @ 02:37
迴響 from: visiteur [訪問者]
還是司機好~~另外 大圖裡那位是??
2008-10-04 @ 03:34
迴響 from: 查布萊特 [訪問者]
文人都是這樣的
扛著美麗的幻想
不食人間煙火
看不到現實
然後編織著美麗的夢
最後宣告這是真實...

最糟糕的是...當我們告訴他社會的黑暗
他們卻以為
那是例外...
2008-10-04 @ 03:48
迴響 from: 金城宅 [訪問者]
整篇看完覺得很痛快啊
尤其是又配合了前面幾篇連結回去看

還認識了兩個名人 !!
2008-10-04 @ 07:24
迴響 from: 小白豬 [訪問者]
我剛剛起來看晨間新聞
非凡新聞台正在做一系列公仔迷/搜藏迷之類的報導
像曲家瑞有蒐集很多二手娃娃
還有鄭運鵬原來也有一個專門搜藏鋼彈的房間
竟然有人連鹹蛋超人的演員頭套都買來搜藏耶,嘆為觀止
然後,這篇的重點是,聽到鄭運鵬親口說出我也是宅男,我就忍不住笑了

可是我小時候看得懂魁男塾,還會偷偷想要鍊那種很炫的拳法
長大卻不能理解國小的我那時候是在瘋魁男塾瘋什麼了
這種階段性的執迷不悟,其他人也有經驗嗎??




2008-10-04 @ 07:49
迴響 from: ccccc [訪問者]
樓上的是金城武本人嗎??
2008-10-04 @ 08:04
迴響 from: 劉德宅 [訪問者]

樓上大大的疑問若成立
那我就是劉德華嚕....
2008-10-04 @ 08:30
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]
最近電腦王第51期就有介紹到防毒軟體
pc-cillin的好處除了在於介面簡單,2009 pro還多了可清除系統暫存檔及登入檔、記憶體的佔用有了改善。
不過缺點還是很多,例如檔網頁廣告不太好,病毒偵測率太低,在大量掃描到威脅時,程式穩定度不夠,解毒慢還會有當機情形。
推薦使用防毒軟體:卡巴斯基、諾頓、ESET


電腦王竟然沒測試AntiVir實在有點可惜
希望下次可以測試非中文版的防毒軟體
2008-10-04 @ 11:44
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]
打錯了
應該是「擋」網頁
2008-10-04 @ 11:45
迴響 from: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
北斗神拳影響了我一輩子........

(心疼整套的北斗神拳,借出後就不回來了.......)
2008-10-04 @ 12:17
迴響 from: Nion [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/nionwu
如果文章的字沒有大寫、空格、粗體
果然是一篇讚揚性的文章啊 XD

這招要學起來

**話說 YAM信箱竟然 G-Mail化了
2008-10-04 @ 12:30
迴響 from: 失憶老人 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
北斗神拳影響了我一輩子........

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包括生吃虎頭蜂蛹嗎?!

口感會不會像吃小強一樣噴出汁來XD

下次請示範~
2008-10-04 @ 12:40
迴響 from: 鯨魚 [訪問者]
果然有詭異的氛圍在,
不過,言出不行非君子也。
承諾永遠是最重要的!
2008-10-04 @ 13:36
迴響 from: 白色七號 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/white07

這篇文章ph值近乎0~1之間XD
也算是認清冰山一角的企業的行徑
朱大辛苦了,違反承諾的人實在是相當混蛋!
2008-10-04 @ 14:11
迴響 from: 路人 [訪問者]
而且顧及這兩位大善人行事低調,偽善不欲人知的立場,我也從來沒有把他們二位的義舉善行,對任何媒體公佈。 偽善?為善?
2008-10-04 @ 16:32
迴響 from: 金城宅 [訪問者]
不是金城武本人

但是長得很像
2008-10-04 @ 16:45
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
噴著"受人點滴,泉湧以報"大字的水肥車又開出來了=.=

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其實卵體爛不是罪,人誠懇就好了。說明書寫明"很廢"。大家都能諒解。
娘炮也沒關係,心夠堅強足矣。

啊幹但是都沒有還在那裝鬼裝怪、偷拐搶騙....那叫不老實。
2008-10-04 @ 16:47
迴響 from: Emil [訪問者]
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9C%B1%E5%AD%B8%E6%81%86
那張照片是怎麼回事?
簡介:近期獲得宅神之稱號。喜好在部落格上放正咩圖.
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抱歉抱歉,剛剛去修正了內文,不過朱大要不要提供新的照片以供更新啊?
2008-10-04 @ 17:19
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我照片在阿宅聚會裡面很多呀!前幾篇文就有了!

Lucifer
2008-10-04 @ 17:35
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

維基沒辦法正確顯示「恒」……

把「朱學恆」全部改成「朱恐龍」或「長洲小力」大家有沒有意見……

2008-10-04 @ 17:46
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
維基可以整篇大圖滿滿嗎,值星官都上去還寫註解那樣?=.=
2008-10-04 @ 18:26
迴響 from: Emil [訪問者]
我照片在阿宅聚會裡面很多呀!前幾篇文就有了!
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我本來想放這張的....
http://www.meso.idv.tw/blog/080910_odaku_j.jpg

但是我怕被維基停權....我真是沒種
2008-10-04 @ 18:33
迴響 from: 路過的 [訪問者]
所以說現在的台灣人中文真的太差了
這樣一篇歌功頌德滿懷感恩的文章
竟然被解讀至如此境地
實在愧對阿同伯,講有勃,大圖值星官,還有圓餅圖!!
2008-10-04 @ 20:27
迴響 from: 簡尼夫。德萊尼 [訪問者] · http://www.gamebase.com.tw/mybase/kenneth1991/
始終睡覺、吃飯、練武術才是自己的意願
但是現在我卻連自己的意願也失去了…



齋戒的Beotos…
Blades of Chaos!!!
我不喜歡現在…
2008-10-04 @ 21:05
迴響 from: yicheng [訪問者] · http://is0106.blogspot.com
我好像患了看到這種歌頌讚揚他人文章時
非得要用滑鼠反白後才看得懂的症狀了... (一"一)
2008-10-04 @ 21:25
迴響 from: Retard [訪問者]
狗!嘴!裡!吐!不!出!象!牙!!!!
2008-10-05 @ 00:01
迴響 from: guludo [訪問者]
霧裡看花??
不過感覺的出來阿宅所長是個有嗯報恩有仇報仇的性情中人哪~~
2008-10-05 @ 00:06
迴響 from: Planet --最愛科科笑的科幻女子-- [訪問者]
好吧

當我沒說
2008-10-05 @ 00:33
迴響 from: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 失憶老人 [訪問者]

包括生吃虎頭蜂蛹嗎?!

口感會不會像吃小強一樣噴出汁來XD

下次請示範~

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放到嘴裡咬破的時候會噴汁,就像撒尿牛丸一樣在嘴化開,味道淡淡的,有股清香,
然後就開始嚼皮,皮嚼不爛,也不敢在多嚼就吞下去了。
只是覺得很奇怪,蜂蛹體內為什麼會有沙沙的東西。
感覺很噁心。
2008-10-05 @ 01:07
迴響 from: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
2008.10.04那羅教會電腦課教學日誌

低年級的注音程度有進步,也不會排斥,但不會的仍是不會。
中年級對於英打很排斥,某些注音程度仍不行。
小茹的注音有很大的進步,雖然還是一樣沒耐性會吵鬧,但是經過耐心的教導及有技巧的
導引後,她也漸漸能接受。
她需要有人陪她一起打鬧,因為她沒有朋友,也被其他女生排斥,所以教注音時需要跟她一直盧,
在用開玩笑的方式導引讓她接受中文打字,要先幫他寫好中文及注音讓他打出來,使她有成就感。

(小茹:小學六年級但是注音背不出來也不會念,是重點人物)

她今天打了"XX茹 大白痴 我你他"。
2008-10-05 @ 01:13
迴響 from: 鄉民roger [訪問者]
為什麼第5張圖的張明正很像阿同伯XD
2008-10-05 @ 03:01
迴響 from: baabuu-第二次宅聚照片網址如右 [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/sets/72157607569954887/
***

迴響來自: Emil
我照片在阿宅聚會裡面很多呀!前幾篇文就有了!
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我本來想放這張的....
http://www.meso.idv.tw/blog/080910_odaku_j.jpg

但是我怕被維基停權....我真是沒種

====
你可以放偽基百科
2008-10-05 @ 12:18
迴響 from: expo [訪問者]
朱大的幹意真是深哪。

簡單的說,如果人家對於social enterprise的想法,並不是最近才萌芽,而是在跟您接觸時就已經有了。

那只能說,對於商人而言,您的基金會並不符合social enterprise的「自給自足」標準。

啥?您說,如果還要考慮營收,那social enterprise有什麼「公益」可言?

對呀,人家本來就沒有要作「大善人」的意思啊。

整個作法其實就是1980年以來,講「民營化」的那套老東西啊。

當年一堆商人靠夭,說政府的工作沒有效率、與民爭利,說民間企業用「企業管理」、「營利誘因」,可以做得比政府更好,叫政府把這些業務「吐」出來給商人來做。

結果,過了這麼多年,商人它們還是發現,有些事,還是要有「不求回報」的精神才能辦得到。

可是,如果您是商人,這種事情敢自己承認嗎?這豈不是承認,20多年來,民營化的那套根本就是胡搞一場?那簡直就是拿石頭砸自己的腳。

高高在上、無所不能的企業英雄(英雌)們怎麼能做出「削」自己面子的事咧?所以,當然要換個說法,說它們做的事情,跟政府做的public service是不一樣的, 那是「social enterprise」。

只能說,您運氣不好,沒遇到對的人啦。
2008-10-05 @ 12:28
迴響 from: Misohamu [訪問者]
dear Lucifer,Good Job!!! ^__^y
2008-10-05 @ 15:34
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

回覆 小熊熊,

我只是想強調PCC連國際評測都沒多少數據能看了(某種程度上比評測吊車尾還慘……)……他打廣告放暗箭的熱誠跟參加公證評比的熱誠根本不能比啊……

靠!pcsecuritylabs!我還怕這個太專業冷門不敢提(連很多軟體BLOG也都只會放VIRUS.GR)……果然是大師出山……
我很期待pcsecuritylabs,希望他們能發展成付費認證的自給自足模式(果然該多推廣一下)。不然亞洲區消費者都沒什麼認證觀念,完全被廣告和口耳相傳牽著鼻子走。

我最近都只推薦ANTIVIR+Threatfire,因為我根本不指望這些人肯花錢買防毒,或是去弄清楚彈出視窗裡面在講什麼……與其推薦一個商用軟體,讓她們(對!我性別歧視!)逼著好人去幫忙找盜版(不!我不當好人已經很久了!),不如弄兩個簡單又能儘量衝高第一線偵測率的軟體。
http://www.free-av.com/en/download/index.html
http://www.threatfire.com/

2008-10-05 @ 17:01
迴響 from: expo [訪問者]
狗尾續貂 S. Peter說的議題。
請參考:
趨勢CEO陳怡樺:防毒產業騙了客戶20年
http://www.zdnet.com.tw/news/software/0,2000085678,20130359,00.htm

獨家專訪趨勢CEO陳怡樺:偵測率競賽是自欺欺人
http://www.zdnet.com.tw/news/software/0,2000085678,20130661,00.htm

您也可以看他們數年前出的一本書,談到「跟有創意的人要怎麼一起跳舞」。書裡面有提到,「軟體遇到bug要不要修改」的問題,他們的經驗總結,真是「在商言商」。
2008-10-05 @ 19:48
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
迴響來自: swanky [訪問者] · http://swanbear.blogspot.com/
逛到王先生留言版上有個有趣的留言~
http://www.readingtimes.com.tw/discuss/tomwang/main2.asp?ParentID=1016876&ArticleID=1016876&ReplyLayer=1

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那是黑心貨吧?



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晚點想寫文章講一下北一女的新聞...

這個周大媽校長沒事找事做...
2008-10-05 @ 19:54
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
迴響來自: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
北斗神拳影響了我一輩子........

(心疼整套的北斗神拳,借出後就不回來了.......)

==========================

沒關係

北斗神拳這個月開始有出新的

可以找一下馱獸~
2008-10-05 @ 19:56
迴響 from: 維基公益 [訪問者] · http://blog.yam.com/wikinpo
這一個迴響,沒有任何意思,純粹是事實的描述,若冒犯到任何人,請見諒。
我曾經是忠實的若水之友,從若水創辦的第一場活動,一直到他們所舉辦的社會企業創業大賽,到志工之夜,都有參與,也跟王文華與張明正換過名片,王文華在若水的e-mail (tom@flow.org.tw),而service@flow.org.tw 是工讀生使用在發送訊息給若水之友的帳號,e-mail參考如下:
http://pics7.blog.yam.com/5/userfile/w/wikinpo/album/148e8c18a2f538.jpg
但是在過去的一年,若水對參與者的溝通,都是單向式,並不會回覆任何詢問與疑問。因此我對於若水的感覺,可以用"言行不一"這四個字來形容。但透過數位時代編輯的分享,張明正先生是真的想要為了這一個社會作一些什麼,但是王文華先生,想要一個名的成分應該是比較多的。因此張明正先生應該可以找一個更適合的伙伴,來為這一個社會作更多的事情。
2008-10-05 @ 21:44
迴響 from: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
剛剛才發現原來北斗神拳的故事有這麼多阿
在xx拍賣上發現的

蒼天之拳 1 ~ 22 話 (完結) + 新 北斗之拳 1 ~ 3 話 (完結) +
拉歐傳-殉愛之章 (全) + 尤莉亞傳 (全) + 拉歐傳-激鬥之章 (全) + 托奇傳 (全) 共 2 片


2008-10-05 @ 22:09
迴響 from: gp99000 [訪問者]
樓上忘了屬於黑歷史的純愛之拳
2008-10-05 @ 22:31
迴響 from: oskar-你一笑,整個世界都亮了起來 [訪問者]
我想到一個也許不可能發生的狀況

如果現在張先生哭著告訴朱宅霸說他錯了,誠心反悔跟他道歉,
重新想要實現他的承諾的時候,

朱宅霸該如何是好???

以下開放幻想~~
2008-10-05 @ 22:36
迴響 from: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
to:gp99000

閣下是指這個嗎??
http://www.tmfc.com/post/10/243

看完後得內傷.......
2008-10-05 @ 22:43
迴響 from: S. Peter [訪問者]

這麼喜歡北斗神拳,請支持歷史悠久、遠近馳名的北斗防毒!讓拳四郎一招擊潰您的WINDOWS……不,是入侵的病毒。

http://www.viruskiller.jp/product/hokuto/index.html

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=tcIScluvadI

2008-10-05 @ 22:47
迴響 from: 天將奔烈 [訪問者]
在那時只有 漢堡漫畫 小叮噹 丁小雨 城市獵人 亂碼1/2 這幾套漫畫的年代裡

我的小腦袋驚訝於北斗神拳劇情的深度及浪漫,就深深地被迷住了.......
2008-10-05 @ 23:41
迴響 from: gp99000 [訪問者]
to 天將奔烈

我都不知道這本有純愛手札的梗,一直以為只有形象一樣= ="

話說我是在學校圖書館找到這本的~~

有國三重的嗎!?那本還在嗎嗎~~~!?

我看到就是鼠傳說的封面,那根本是馬糞超人阿 囧
2008-10-06 @ 00:01
迴響 from: 過路人 [訪問者]
小弟是在公益團體工作,中華民國腦性麻痺協會http://www.cplink.org.tw/


從事這行業已經9年多,主要工作是幫忙他們腦麻者提供就業協助,以及針對學齡前小朋友提供物理治療及早期療育課程


經費除了政府補助外,主要都來自募款

之前也曾與若水聯繫過

他們所期待的社會企業責任,與我們在公益團體所期待的社會責任

有很明顯的差距,

除了賺錢,經營社會企業還有很多必須作為核心價值的東西,如付出、以及對弱勢者的包容..等許多

否則跟一般企業有何不同?

雖然我們有很意願,不過我們也跟朱先生一樣,並沒有得到很具體的回應

幸運的是,我們並沒有得到任何承諾........


........................
提昇知識時間

腦性麻痺(cerebral palsy)是指小兒大腦因受到固定性損壞而引致的行動障礙。

腦性麻痺並不一定有弱智、癲癇或其他問題;這關乎腦部受損範圍的大小及嚴重程度而決定。
(腦麻者約有25%以上智力完全正常,50%主要是後天教育及沒有適當的早期療育所影響.....
部分父母在黃金治療期0-6歲沒有適當的協助,殊為可惜)

腦麻損傷是非進行性的損傷,並不會逐漸變壞,除非都不處理(物理復健或相關治療)

全世界的發生率約為千分之四

以台灣兩千三百萬來說,約有七、八萬人左右(小孩至老人)

外觀及肢體是影響腦麻在人際、就學、就業困難的最大問題

我們協會在10/18日將於嘉義啟智學校舉辦boccia地板滾球(專門針對重度腦麻者辦理的一項運動)中南區比賽

北部出賽以于10/4-5日舉辦.....人超多,將近150名的腦麻及身障者參與

全國總決賽將於11/15日于台北市文山特殊學校舉辦

各位宅男如有空,可到現場幫忙他們加油

小弟是現場的工作人員(中南區不去...不過有我們協會的幾位美女下去...都還單身喔,各位宅男有機會...握拳),

總決賽小弟會在現場,有興趣聊聊者可以與小弟這位宅男聯絡
2008-10-06 @ 00:54
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
TO: 過路人 [訪問者]


請問有捐款帳號嗎?

我相信貴單位比慈濟更需要大家的幫助

====================================




接下來是昨天晚上的預告

我終於把文章寫出來了!!

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien/30743238


不喜歡無名小站的人就請到這邊看

http://user.isgamer.com/space.php?uid=88518&do=blog&id=29520
2008-10-06 @ 01:02
迴響 from: DA FUN [訪問者]
朱大,來自六先生的回應…

http://twitter.com/mr65210
2008-10-06 @ 01:11
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
迴響來自: 維基公益 [訪問者] · http://blog.yam.com/wikinpo

請問你是V老大嗎?
我是花輪的美工(做蝦子改版的那個)
沒想到可以在這裡看到維基公益的網站(~~搖晃)
2008-10-06 @ 01:45
迴響 from: 賣宅的朱厚宅誠徵雇主一名,要真正待優的 [訪問者]
有機會的話找管寧去看看他

[詳情請參閱VIVA的三國同人誌]

或者我辛苦一些,到他公司門口散發亡[錯了...]

王者之氣,不只顧客,連女職員都會爭相走避...
2008-10-06 @ 02:02
迴響 from: 小芬 [訪問者]
>朱大,來自六先生的回應…

>http://twitter.com/mr65210

呵呵這位不知哪裡來的六先生?的回應是要說趨勢是只針對朱大還是朱大說謊?
2008-10-06 @ 02:25
迴響 from: 賣宅的朱厚宅誠徵雇主一名,要真正待優的 [訪問者]
那個是民主政治之下特有的姑息精神啦

也可以說是東方人的鄉愿,

反對比較激烈的行動,否則就丟一頂偏激的帽子給人戴

也可以講他收了好處
2008-10-06 @ 03:00
迴響 from: jazz [訪問者]
朱大這篇有點誇張了。

很忙的男子漢是有可能交代內容請助理代寫代發email的。王這封信最多就彰顯出他的助理訓練不足,在活動前不久才發信,這顯示他公司做事沒效率、沒規劃。以上當然都不是正面的事,不過從他字裡行間,至少他對你還是有人與人之間的尊重。

至於他的搭檔為人如何,你可以有你自己的評斷,但除非王個人做過什麼很機車的事,不然似乎不應該讓王概括承受他搭檔的缺失。你的回信內容太過份了。

你回王的這封信恐怕是莽漢上身的時候回的,不是平常那個男子漢吧。


2008-10-06 @ 03:02
迴響 from: 賣宅的朱厚宅誠徵雇主一名,要真正待優的 [訪問者]
尊重與誠意有些地方不同啊

爵士老兄也不是新讀者了

怎麼不知道尊重與誠意在朱豪宅心中的重量分配?

[以上以下都是本人自己推測,至於準度...我只能說我預料過319,在事件發生的半年前]

朱豪宅他基本上不太需要尊重,甚至在正妹面前可以當狗

可是想與他深入交流一定需要誠意,沒有誠意就如上

千里[是距離,不是AV女優的名字]送鵝毛,送的是什麼?
2008-10-06 @ 03:21
迴響 from: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468
迴響來自: jazz [訪問者]
朱大這篇有點誇張了。

--------------------------------------------------
也許他是要酸酸地提醒誤入創投界的小白兔人心險惡
小心理財以免血本無歸呀~~~~

ㄊㄇㄉ那些VC的回收跟放高利貸一樣...
2008-10-06 @ 04:06
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
迴響來自: 陳健拉 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/wos5468


也許他是要酸酸地提醒誤入創投界的小白兔人心險惡
小心理財以免血本無歸呀~~~~

ㄊㄇㄉ那些VC的回收跟放高利貸一樣...



這年頭

天真的阿宅小孩子越來越多了

到時被仙人跳才後悔已經來不及了
2008-10-06 @ 04:28
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
我很欣賞這種反正也不知道真相,就可以盲目為他人辯護的作法呀!感覺有種白蓮下凡,萬民翻身的氣魄呀!

Lucifer

各位這麼想要知道真相,要不要去查一下去年得到創業比賽第一名的業主現在有沒有拿到投資呀?

知道很多的人不想講話,還一定要等那些知道不多人的辯護,這世界上是不是懶人當道呀!
2008-10-06 @ 08:42
迴響 from: oskar-你一笑,整個世界都亮了起來 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 朱恐龍 [成員] · http://www.myoops.org
我很欣賞這種反正也不知道真相,就可以盲目為他人辯護的作法呀!感覺有種白蓮下凡,萬民翻身的氣魄呀!
Lucifer
各位這麼想要知道真相,要不要去查一下去年得到創業比賽第一名的業主現在有沒有拿到投資呀?
知道很多的人不想講話,還一定要等那些知道不多人的辯護,這世界上是不是懶人當道呀!
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在等你講啊~~~(搬板凳)
2008-10-06 @ 10:03
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
懶得說,我這裡又不是演布袋戲的。

Lucifer
2008-10-06 @ 10:10
迴響 from: 伊凡斯 [訪問者]
說到某防毒套軟體...就想到 Dos 年代拿 key-pro 跟使用者是硬體防毒, 還有 Taiwan No.1 越解越多隻的輝煌歲月...

套一句趨勢CEO陳怡樺:"防毒產業騙了客戶20年"
2008-10-06 @ 10:32
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
真相的百分之XX可以從網路文章找到,尤其是那些被關閉但存在GOOGLE庫存裡的東西。

在我去查資料以前,Service wang不過是常被我調侃史丹佛的特殊樣版、張老闆也不過是個本來就不抱希望出一張嘴的有錢人,查了資料之後,真令我眉頭深鎖。

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起源:(注意:5個優勝隊伍,每隊新台幣500萬的創業資金)

由若水的「社會企業創業大賽」,決賽辦法:入圍隊伍在決賽評審面前簡報提案,並接受評審質詢.....評審最後選出5個優勝隊伍,不分名次。若水提供每隊新台幣500萬的創業資金,未來視資金需求和營運狀況,可能加碼.....

過程:(浩浩蕩蕩,真有入圍決賽者)

由若水與商業週刊主辦的「社會企業創業大賽」從去年八月開始,歷經近二十場的全省巡迴講座及週六的學習活動、與近萬名支持台灣公益的朋友面對面座談後,我們在四個月後得到212件報名提案。初賽評審們在一月十二日選出八個入圍決賽的團隊。

結果:(一隊獲獎,「答應」「投資」500萬)

若水國際主辦的「社會企業創業大賽」,提出透過廚餘堆肥,雇用原住民朋友耕種的方式,結合公益以及商業,獲得評審青睞,成為全台灣唯一獲得優勝的隊伍,還讓科技大老闆答應要投資500萬元,讓他們開公司。若水國際董事長王文華說:「我在演藝界有認識很多朋友,我保證,我到時候去請他們,用合理的價格來當代言人。」
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1.五隊變一隊優勝是什麼回事?

2.500萬,究竟是獎金?還是投資?(獎金不用還,投資是一種恩准借款)

3.張老闆「答應投資」500萬,這是指加碼,還是指既有獎金?IF是既有獎金又何需答應?那不是本來就該有的?

4.獎金也好、加碼500萬也好(媒體解讀為加碼)、三年一億也好,我查不到任何有關錢的後續消息,瑪納有機文化生活促進會(當時第一名)網站除了該比賽,都沒提到錢,而且目前正拜託大眾幫忙認養土地。

(朱恐龍:幫你補一個連結。http://www.mana.org.tw/blog/

以上,究竟怎麼回事?
2008-10-06 @ 10:39
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
補述

97/1/13獲優勝

97/4/7喝世界咖啡

然後有關優勝對伍曙光計畫有如浮雲~~~~~~
2008-10-06 @ 10:52
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
阿宅發揮實事求是的精神

我把 daniel 的問題 po 上若水官網了
以及它們的丁丁大站副網

不知道他們會不會理我ㄟ ...
2008-10-06 @ 11:32
迴響 from: 夏夜 [訪問者]
朱大的頸是越來越硬啦~
2008-10-06 @ 11:35
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
樓上是很典型的比廣告文還難懂的智障留言.....

Lucifer
2008-10-06 @ 12:07
迴響 from: Chieeh [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/csit58903203
期待企業負起社會責任是非常理想性的東西

企業的責任是創造股東的最大利益

所以必須盡其所能去騙消費者來消費

所以就必須剝削員工,就必須欺騙豪宅

2008-10-06 @ 12:12
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
惡靈退散~惡靈退散~
2008-10-06 @ 12:31
迴響 from: baabuu [訪問者] · http://www.flickr.com/photos/baabuu/
***
to Chieeh

老闆!
光碟三份,不要加胡椒不要切也不要加不要加辣辣喔~~

另外有沒有吃剩的海報與宣傳單?

海報兩份,宣傳單三份~~
一樣不要加胡椒不要切也不要加不要加不要加辣辣喔~~
包一起就可以了~~

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同場加映:疊字禁止(轉貼)
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/kueifu7346/11792811 -我在這裡看到的

昨天
下班的時候
傳聞樂透上看五億七
下班就順路走去買幾張
正當我聚精會神
想要感應數字的時候
忽然間聽到一對年輕男女在對話

"老公,要不要買樂透"
"好阿,中了買摩托車車給你"
"摩托車車ㄟ,真好CCC"


靠盃
這什麼對話阿?真肉麻
我撇眼一看
似乎是附近的高中生
買完去隔壁吃牛肉麵
結果那對男女也走了近來
就坐在我的隔壁桌
距離大概只有30公分
頓時我有不好的預感
感覺這餐會吃的很反胃
店家裡大概三四個年輕人
我對面
則是坐一個頭髮抓的像塞亞人得粗框眼鏡潮男
坐下來後
疊字情侶開始對話:

"老婆,你要吃飯飯,還是麵麵?"
"人家要牛肉麵麵,我還要加辣辣喔(嘟嘴)"

我跟對面的潮男互看一眼
我可以感覺到我們內心的OS應該是一樣的:

(幹,麵麵你媽個頭)


疊字情侶點完餐後
女生整個依偎在男生身上
"老公,你今天上課有沒想我"
"當然,我整天上課都馬在想你,嘿嘿"
"討厭啦 (打鬧狀)"

然後,男生的手就不停的在女生的肩膀,腰和腿摸來摸去
只能說
那一瞬間
我有要失明的感覺




---------五分鐘後----------

麵來了

"老婆,來,嘴嘴開開,快"
"阿 (張嘴樣)你這個好大喔
我吃不進去,燙燙啦"

我跟潮男再度無奈的互看一眼

(幹你老師勒,這是A片台詞嗎?)

就這樣
兩個人又繼續淫聲浪語
我覺得整間店5'6個客人加上老闆都已經快受不了她們了
吃了一段時間
疊字男起身跟老闆說要加麵
沒有麵的空檔
這對敬業的情侶
當然還是繼續上演A片
一分鐘後
老闆把剛疊字情侶的麵端過來了
這時候
我對面的潮男也站了起來
把碗遞給老闆
故意很大聲得說:




"老闆
.
.
.

我也要加麵麵,不要辣辣喔"



幹,頓時整間店都笑了出來
我嘴裡湯也幾乎要噴了出來
笑死我的毛阿
之後 這對男女就安靜下來了
安分的吃完他們的麵



good job!敬這位塞亞粗框潮男
你真是太帥帥了!

(轉貼完畢)
2008-10-06 @ 12:45
迴響 from: 過路人 [訪問者]
迴響來自: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
TO: 過路人 [訪問者]


請問有捐款帳號嗎?

我相信貴單位比慈濟更需要大家的幫助

====================================


謝謝你的有心

我們網站上有捐款帳號

並會寄給你收據讓你報稅用

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另外

我真的佩服朱大可以這樣公開的講出來

2008-10-06 @ 13:04
迴響 from: 宅化中 = MIKE [訪問者]
樓上的意思是說自己大腸癌末期喔
請節哀順變
2008-10-06 @ 14:45
迴響 from: Jhc [訪問者]
朱大當心
萬一病毒企業夫婦贊助阿桐伯和IE^3林
他們聯盟成立後

宅男朱大該怎麼去面對


下期封面

宅男末日....XD
2008-10-06 @ 16:04
迴響 from: DRack [訪問者]

是不是有人一直亂版....然後留病毒網頁...
2008-10-06 @ 22:34
迴響 from: 異形,18歲 [訪問者] · http://www.wretch.cc/blog/stephenalien
這時

只能用這個影片表達我的態度

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2087635

惡靈退散~惡靈退散
2008-10-07 @ 13:42
迴響 from: 黃金鼠^^~ [訪問者]
我該把那本"史丹佛的銀色子彈" 封箱嗎~~
怎麼會這樣~
2008-10-07 @ 22:23
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
"史丹佛的銀色子彈"該不該封箱我不知道,不過我知道在台灣的史丹佛人會向他把兩年的MBA課程出一說再說,一寫再寫的,寫得好像史丹佛大學念到博士一樣的,大概只有他了。

兩年MBA之後,東京美國不知幹什麼的做了5年,之後在台灣掛名一些怪頭銜,接著拿MBA跟這些不知成功點在哪的經歷,四處教人怎麼工作、怎麼面試、怎麼過人生的,大概也只有他一個。

我有看過一段他認為他「會錄取的求職者」的言論,他會錄取的,剛好就是我絕不錄取的,而且我有把握在職場上我選擇的那種求職者,一定表現的比他選的好,而我還是敝領域裡最不嚴謹的一位勒。
2008-10-08 @ 08:12
迴響 from: Tom sucker [訪問者]


2008-10-08 @ 13:26
迴響 from: Tom sucker [訪問者]
http://www.plurkpix.com/pix/69K.jpg

找無知少女來當員工真好ㄚ
2008-10-08 @ 13:29
迴響 from: morn [訪問者]
前幾天不小心在電視上看見王先生訪談蔣有勃先生,還蠻讓人絕倒的.

訪談不過十二十分鏡,途中王先生不斷發揮他在史丹佛習得的驚人專業技能,
猜測到底是有勃哥在米國修得的高明管理技能,
還是蔣先生個人深厚的美學素養與設計理念,
才造就出橙果.

蔣先生倒是蠻誠實也蠻不給他面子的,不斷地兔他槽,
回覆道他根本就不懂設計,目的也只在賺錢,

結果,節目就在有勃哥不斷打槍汶滑兄的節奏中結束了....

2008-10-08 @ 16:44
迴響 from: 老宅男 [訪問者]
老朱
請推薦幾個重然諾的企業
讓大家心裡舒坦點
尤其是在這633政見跳票的年代....

2008-10-10 @ 10:49
迴響 from: 影仔 [訪問者]
根據本期數位時代第173期報導:
若水第一擊揮棒落空啟示錄

若水看來並沒有給曙光計畫錢,
(blah blah blah 一堆理由後拒絕投資),
所以看來根本沒揮棒就被三振掉了.
2008-10-10 @ 23:00
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
很多事情說穿就不好玩了,要自己去查嘛!

Lucifer
2008-10-10 @ 23:30
迴響 from: Ashley [訪問者]
若水又不是金雞母
投資也不是兒戲
據我所知 若水做完評估後 真的投不下去
所以最後由若水創辦人張明正捐款250萬元給曙光團隊

250萬耶!!!!!!!!
雖然不是投資,但還是活生生的錢啊
我覺得若水已經仁至義盡了

一般的創投
不投就不投
哪還需要花時間花錢管這些啊
2008-10-12 @ 20:33
迴響 from: so? [訪問者]
很多事情說穿就不好玩了,要自己去查嘛!

Lucifer


自己去查?故弄什麼玄虛阿
趨勢或張明正有沒有呼哢你什麼你不說明白就反諷他們
一直有意無意的提
網友問你還說"說穿了就不好玩了"
這是什麼跟什麼阿?

趨勢產品不受肯定但市佔率有8%
這就是為什麼他們覺得公關作一作就好
"社會型企業"說穿了就是騙較有愛心的消費者去消費
之後企業賺了錢再花小錢做當做廣告費用的公益活動
而做若水是因為這樣的方式國內還沒有很多人做
他們認為這可能是有機會的經營模式


2008-10-12 @ 21:13
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blogs.udn.com/bill1712
比賽不是說8隊各500萬ㄇ?250萬怎麼就是仁盡義至勒?沒那個料別濠洨那個種~~~

250萬都創投不了,不如公司關一關,一間房子裝璜就差不多100萬,給人250萬算啥?小弟年少時三人工作室的第一案應收軟體款就80萬,250萬了不起個鬼?

不給錢就算了,就不過是個在商言商的創投,還是500萬都燒不起的小創投,這腫小創投拿著社會型企業佔媒體版面很狗屎~~

今天剛好看到DISCOVERY再播未來綠色企業,比如以太陽光能與建築結構結合的新海水淡化市鎮實驗,評估起來隨便就上億吧,說真的,想玩[社會型企業],一個500萬評估一年還反悔不給的公司,玩個屁!!!
2008-10-12 @ 21:18
迴響 from: 朱恐龍 [成員]
因為我不喜歡看無碼片,弄上馬賽克感覺比較好看~~~這你就不懂了~~~

遮遮掩掩感覺很刺激嘛!

Lucifer
2008-10-12 @ 21:19
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
資料越多,我對若水就越輕視嚕~~~~~~
2008-10-12 @ 21:20
迴響 from: 國士無雙 [訪問者]
那一天看到你上陶子的節目,以為你會對學生說實話,結果還滿客氣讓他過關
心想不好玩
我相信電視上的人說得每一句話也懷疑每篇文章
文章的主角很矯情也夠虛偽
I really do not care!!
錢 我照捐 日子我照過
以前我幻想過 超人真存在
其實你 我都是
會說的人 通常都不會做事
你真善良
還真相信他們倆
無奸不成商
是不變的道理
看到若水應徵人
感覺要有兩把刷子
心想去當清道夫都還比較有意義
2008-10-12 @ 23:11
迴響 from: 王中之王的王 [訪問者]
這下這灘水被講的像洨一樣了,公司要不要改名啊....囧

直接叫"從善如洨"音義皆同XD
2008-10-13 @ 16:09
迴響 from: 阿德 [訪問者] · http://jason.onweb.idv.tw
看了以上的部份留言, 提到了 "社會企業" 這個詞, 我想藉這個機會, 以 "我的觀點" 由幾個面向來說明一下, 我對 "社會企業" 的想法.

1."社會企業"; 看到 "企業" 兩字, 是不是就想到賺錢呀! 哈! 哈! 在這裡可以說是, 也可以說不是! 在我的想法裡, 所謂的 "社會企業", 應該是指 "社會公益團體(福利機構)以企業化的方式來經營", 企業化的方式並不只是賺錢, 而是這個社福團體, 能不能跟企業一樣, 講求執行效能(不浪費資源), 品質(提供更好的服務), 產能(服務更多的人)... 等, 把企業的運作方式, 帶入社福團體中, 讓社福團體的服務可以長久經營下去.

2."社會企業" 跟以往的傳統的社福團體是不一樣的, 不是傳統的 "施" 與 "受" 的關係, 你比較弱勢, 就由團體來提供幫忙你, 不是的, "社會企業" 講究的是 "共榮", 我團體這邊有我的專長, 團體這邊有你沒有的東西(比如 "通路"), 但你那邊, 也要自己站起來, 生產些什麼 或 付出些什麼, 我們之間相互搭配, 產生出價值, 就是利潤囉~

3.啊~ 談到錢了~ "社會企業" 的第一筆資金, 可能是需要募集啦(通常是初期的一些行政費用), 但, 請注意, 是個 "企業" 就是要想辦法自己自足的生存下去呀~ 如果你是個 "社會企業" 你就是要跟被幫助者合作來產生利潤, 然後用這些利潤幫助更多的 "弱勢者" 站起來, 改變他們自己的人生. (再次強調, 這些被幫助者並非只是等幫助, 他們要自己能付出.)

4."社會企業" 聽起來似乎很大, 要很多錢才能運作囉? 並非如此, 其實它最難的地方是在發想, 要幫助什麼樣的人? 他們能提供或付出什麼? "社會企業" 在這群人中的角色? 如何獲利? 如何永續經營(不能靠募款喔!)? 模式複製, 幫助更多的人.

舉個例來說吧, 我到目前為止, 聽過最成功的 "社會企業" 是 Ventures in Development (http://www.venturesindev.org/), 我公司 心路基金會 很榮幸有請到 喬琬珊(Carol Chyau)來分享她們建立 "社會企業" 的過程. 她們剛開始時, 就兩個人拿著哈佛大學商業企畫比賽贏得的 1.5 萬美元獎金就開始了. 現在經營的很成功. 如要更深入瞭解她們做了些什麼, 請見:

1.犛牛.藏胞 社會企業(http://blog.yam.com/jamezku/article/15783117)

2.分享社會企業案例:Ventures in Development(http://blog.roodo.com/seworkshop/archives/4561673.html)

3.Ventures in Development (http://www.venturesindev.org/)(英文, 她們網站)

事實上, 我覺得, "社會企業" 應該是 "部份" 公益團體的未來, 的確有很多的團體募款不易, 若團體能跟服務的對象, 進行某種合作而能產生足以支付團體本身運作所需的部份費用的話, 那團體就能服務更多人了.

P.S.以上內容為我個人之觀點, 如有錯誤之處, 歡迎指正, 謝謝.

本文同時發表於我的個人網站.
http://jason.onweb.idv.tw/archives/002779.html
2008-10-14 @ 03:25
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
我的觀點是,所謂社會企業,愛怎麼定義怎麼定義,反正現在還沒有定論,不過絕不是由嚎洨的人來決定「定義」。

任何企業第一筆資金,有人自己攢、有人跟銀行借、有人跟創投要,不過我相信沒有人有空組隊花半年參加比賽、再花一年陪著宣揚理念,然後遙遙無期等著資金。

而這樣只出嘴給資金的老闆,卻一天到晚大談公益,去問問GOOGLE,可以發現某創投宣揚「社會」企業的「社會責任」、以及「將」投資多少錢於社會企業的文章,「無限大倍」於成功案例,為何說無限大,幾百除以零,當然是無限大。

誠信有問題的老闆,說什麼都聽聽就好,尤其是公益。

最後,「1.5萬美金就開始了」這句話是很有問題的,除了1.5萬美金有沒別的資金?開始又是怎麼開始?看見西藏人窮所以去那邊賣犛牛產品營利又回饋當地人,就是公益型的社會企業嗎?

很多旅行社去西藏開行程蓋旅館算不算社會企業?

幾世紀前歐美強權許多公司到窮困的非洲引薦當地窮困土著免費旅行到各國作工(黑奴),又算不算社會企業?

比爾蓋茲從車庫開始,就是在家做可省下經營的大筆開銷,三個人跑去西藏開公司,1.5萬美金只夠他們到西藏,到西藏後難道偷牛賣嗎?

在資訊不夠透明的情況,很多話聽聽就好,為了拱自己,很多人都是不惜唬爛的,要舉社會企業,我會舉上一屆和平獎得主,專門在孟加拉無擔保低息小額借款的銀行家,為了他的社會企業犧牲了多少年?
2008-10-14 @ 08:12
迴響 from: 阿德 [訪問者] · http://jason.onweb.idv.tw
我無意與大家討論 "若水" 的事, 因為我對他們完全不瞭解!

我談的是: 社會企業

就我瞭解的部份, 親耳聽到的部份 Ventures in Development 喬琬珊(Carol Chyau)分享的, 她們的確是從 1.5萬美金開始, 她們開始只有兩個人, 在那種偏遠地區根本花不到什麼錢, 後續並無大資金進入, 幸運的是, 她們在一年內就做出了產品, 其實她們的產品, 以我們的觀點, 還頗貴, 但她們就是有那個資源去賣給有錢人, 不是在當地賣, 是到外國賣, 台灣好像也有家店(我要查一下), 後續的路就比較順利了.

事實上, 她們創立的過程是很辛苦的, 在西藏, 她們必需翻越過一個個的山頭, 才能找到有養犛牛的牧民, 每戶每戶的進行調查與溝通, 她們不是在市集上直接收購犛牛毛, 因為直接收購會引發剝削, 他們還必須教會這些牧民如何剪下與收集犛牛毛, 才能給毛線工廠利用犛牛毛來做成毛線(在這之前, 沒有人用過犛牛毛作毛線, 跟工廠的溝通測試不會少), 然後教導牧民編織的技巧, 才能作出產品來賣.

後來, 她們又研發了犛牛奶酪, 也很暢銷喔!

對! 或許有某些企業頂著 "公益" 掛羊頭賣狗肉, 但也有像溫世仁這樣的企業家呀!

"社會企業" 也是同樣的, 有真有假, 有好有壞, 在我們台灣 "社會企業" 算是剛起步而已, 我們還沒有一個成功的典範出現, 我寫這篇回應的目的, 只是希望大家不是直接就幫 "社會企業" 貼上 "沽名釣譽", "騙人的" ... 等負面的標籤, 給它個機會, 或許那一天, 我們看到某企業, 就能說: "啊~ 原來要這樣搞, 才是真正的 '社會企業' 呀!"
2008-10-14 @ 12:36
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
先註:我想本篇沒幾個人會把社會企業當騙人的吧?是不是騙人的只要看他們作些什麼,日子久了自然可知。

回到例子,親耳聽到喔?我家老母每天跟我說過去家產是整半個台北縣的田,我也沒信過;我剛畢業那時也有人親爾跟我陳述一個幾億的合作計畫,結果...不提也罷。

全世界嚎洨者不計其數,要人信服不是光用嘴,朱宅要是只出嘴,網站沒有一群志工每天一點點的推進英翻中,妳猜我會不會每天來版上陪著宅?

「她們創立的過程是很辛苦的, 在西藏, 她們必需翻越過一個個的山頭, 才能找到有養犛牛的牧民」~~~有沒有在台灣走過百岳?沒經驗的人在台灣光去拜訪個嘉明湖都會失蹤的,在西藏海拔6千公尺的地方一個一個去拜訪是不可能低,除了他們的嘴,妳有沒聽過什麼其他資訊?

在GOOGLE裡搜到的資料,全都是同一篇文章相互拷貝,不合理的地方除了都是同一篇文,就是每一個句子都不忘提到「這裡好貧窮」,即使全無必要!

但即使這樣,把文章去除掉一堆形容詞,就是兩個女生去雲南旅遊(絕不是去西藏)覺得可以從牛奶身上著手賺錢,到美國研究一番以後沒搞頭轉往紡織...畢業後,蘇芷君和喬婉珊一同成立Ventures in Development (ViD)公司。ViD是非營利機構,資金來自捐款,其功能有如一個投資者(即為創投)。

看懂沒?這兩人是收「捐款」作創投,先投資Shokay作紡織(ViD原本在青海、西藏、四川幾個點收購牛絨,但由於地點過於分散,運輸和營運困難,去年三月開始,集中在青海黑馬河鄉正呼村收購),後投資牛奶工廠(美香奶酪廠則是中外合資的合作社,二○○六年九月由中甸朗都村咯咱鄉的藏民成立,獲ViD挹注。)

說真的,心路基金會若經營些什麼,我會相信這是妳說的社會企業,但一個2006才有想法進行的創投公司Vid,要我相信些什麼,資料還得多一點。
2008-10-14 @ 13:51
迴響 from: daniel [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
簡短總結一下:阿德先生妳所說的兩個女生由1.5萬美金開始,跋山涉水白手起家創立企業,研發犛牛織品與奶酪。

A-1.5萬美金是假象,有捐款,基本上就是收捐款的公司。

B-在大陸開公司,公司名前會有省分名,這一家是外資。

C-臺、美、港是不容許收捐款但卻營利,大陸各省也多不准,所以以外資名義在化外之境經營才是王道。

D-此公司沒研發,他是投資,這種到大陸找機會投資的人多著,我較熟朋友就有三個,一個以特種電器幫助大陸貧工、一個以手機配件幫助廣州人民技術與所得提升、一個則是幫助四川人作提袋,一般我們稱為投資與代工。

E-我沒說此企業不好,但妳要說他好,真的還早~~

2008-10-14 @ 14:03
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2008-10-14 @ 14:44
迴響 from: 阿德 [訪問者] · http://jason.onweb.idv.tw
HELLO, daniel:

哈! 哈! 您要用這種角度來看這家公司, OK! 沒問題, 我承認您說的對! 這方面我提不出任何反證.

但事實的真相是什麼? 我不知道, 或許就像您說的那樣! 或許我真的被聽到的 "假象", 簡報上 "藏民的笑容" 所欺騙, 但容我提醒您, 光是網路上查一查, 就能 "看" 到真相嗎?

>E-我沒說此企業不好,但妳要說他好,真的還早~~

這點, 我同意!

但~ "社會企業" 的 "好" 該怎麼認定? 老實說, 以我在社福界淺淺的資歷, 我還真不知道咧, 該怎麼認定這個 "社會企業" 是好, 還是不好呢? 該用營收? 捐款金額與服務比? 還是服務個案數? 個案生活品質改善程度? 還是個案產能? ... 所以, 我完全同意您的觀點, 要說他好,真的還早~~

我真的不能提出什麼, 來證明該公司是否夠好(我也無意為她們背書), 我也無法知道, 在當時(約一年多前)她們所提出的報告與分享, 跟至今他們公司的實際運作, 是否背離了當時的理想...

但我覺得她們好, 是她們的發展經驗, 確實提供給我們這些 "追著錢跑" 的社福團體一些啟發, 除了善心人士的捐款外, 我們能否有其他收入的管道, 來推展我們的服務.

>要我相信些什麼,資料還得多一點。

我會留意看看, 看是否有機會, 能讓您相信些什麼! 哈! 哈!
2008-10-14 @ 21:23
迴響 from: DANIEL [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
網路上查一查的資料,比起一個人願意拿給你看的資料,要皆接近真相的多。

你若要我自我介紹,我這個賤貨絕對只給你看我扶老婆婆過馬路的照片,我會給你看我的網交文還是看A片打收槍照給你嗎?這就是人生。

一個換個角度你就無法反證的「好」,會不會基礎太薄弱?你說他沒收捐款就靠那1.5萬美金,資料一找明明就是吸捐款的創投,你的無法置信來自哪裡?比起來我可完全不會想拿你一毛錢,說說看,那位「有幸邀請的社會企業家」,演講費拿了心路多少?

一個神,是無須一直變魔術耍嘴皮證明他是神,網路上查到都是同一篇資料這種狀況,以及老闆娘四處訴說「公益經驗」的特徵,跟我個人特愛蒐集的「台灣造假之光」幾個人狀況實在太類似了。

網路上有他們兩個女生去「考察西藏」的照片,我怎麼看,那都是大陸雲南西藏之旅的旅行社行程。

社會企業定義目前尚無定論,根據國際協會資料,台灣如中華電信等公司曾被列名為CSR優良企業,這靠的可不是投資什麼社會企業,而就是老實的運用資本、乖乖有良心配股營利、盈餘捐點錢、員工四處做公益,簡單說,你認為的那種社會企業存不存在我不知道,但是,企業的社會責任怎麼做,應該決不是攢錢的那一套。

心路早已比很多企業偉大,何必去聽一個營業不到兩年企業的觀點?一個企業不到五年都跟大便一樣,當年網路泡沫年代有多少家號稱攢錢數億的公司狂倒?

你要學他?把心路捐款集中,改為創投並四處演講吸金,那就行了,主管機關會直接來請喝咖啡告訴你是非。
2008-10-14 @ 23:08
迴響 from: 阿德 [訪問者] · http://jason.onweb.idv.tw
HELLO, DANIEL:

感謝您幾天來所提出看法, 還真長了我的見識呢~ 謝謝!

以及, 感謝您對心路的美言, 我們會更努力.

我想我能接受您的建議, 對 "社會企業" 多多研究, 多多從各個方面來看, "社會企業" 的真實性, 可能性, 可行性... 等, 畢竟, 心路要可長可久, 光靠捐款是不夠的, 我們也要努力多方面學習, 想辦法站起來才行.

最後, 簡單回應一件事:

>那位「有幸邀請的社會企業家」,演講費拿了心路多少?

我們是有要致贈演講費與交通費, 她拒絕了, 她說她是回家(她父母親好像住中和), 順便來分享而已, 她並無收 心路 的演講費與交通費!

再次感謝您, 我真的學了不少. 謝謝!
2008-10-15 @ 17:19
迴響 from: DANIEL [訪問者] · http://blog.udn.com/bill1712
我原本期待是一個直接的回擊:「成功企業接不但沒拿錢,還捐了一筆創業金」~

心路的經營,不跟心路收錢就是心路努力所得形象的報酬。

加油
2008-10-15 @ 23:30
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真擔心未來台灣的慈善(NGO)等 都被社會企業這種形式給吃掉了

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